The problem with turning a GSXR into a track bike is that you have to wear flip-flops, a wife beater, and Oakleys, which aren't approved safety gear at most facilities.

But seriously, yeah it would be a good comprise between 600 handling and liter-bike power. That bike is a hold over from the days when the AMA used to race 750's exclusively. It's the only bike still able to be bought new, when back then if you didn't have a YZF750, ZX-7R, GSXR750, or VFR750, you weren't shit. All the other OEMs dropped the 750s from their lineups long ago. :sad:

 

LMAO:crackup:

Ya I know all about the history of bikes. Im like an encyclopedia when it comes to Knowledge of anything with wheels. I was just looking for some first hand opinions of people who have actually raced the 750. Will it pull close lap times to say the new zx10 with same good rider?

 

I will just say this. If this is your first trackday, I think it would be better to start small, and go bigger later on. Small as in 600cc (maybe 750, but I have never rode one, so I can't say much) Learn the basics without having to worry as much about spinning up the rear out of turns and coming in too hot from the higher speeds that you can achieve on the liter bike. Where are you planning on doing your first TD?

If you had a Gen4 with TC and ABS, I'd say maybe.

 

Ive done track days before on my GSXR600 at VIR. Im on my third zx10 now. I kill the twisties when I go out with friends and hit some back roads. Texas Hill country.
Im gonna stretch my gen1 soon and designate it to the drag strip. Im just keeping my options open for another bike to set up for corner duty. Always though the 750 would be a great option, although would take some serious good first hand reviews to go that route over a gen4. I do love spinning up the rear on corner exit tho.
Just curious.

 

its one of the best all around bikes you can get for the track in my opinion. there are a million parts for em online, easy as hell to work on, easy as hell to tune, most stuff is fairly inexpensive. what year are you looking at though because that makes a huge difference, don't go older than 07 though

 

Ya thats kinda what I was thinkin. The balance of that bike has got to make it very confidence inspiring, and fun to ride.
I would def go brand new.

 

Gen 4 is a premium trackbike. With the adjustable power and traction control, you increase power and control as your skills increase without the need to invest in a different motorcycle...

 

You sound like a dealership salesman.. lol
But seriously, ya gen4 is prob what I'll get, but just like to see what people might have to say about the 750.

 

I use a GSXR on the track Hey, it was a cheap track cast-off.
Fully kitted for CCS it was a really sweet deal. Mind you, I will swap it out some day. At least my son has a 636 for the track so I get some credit.

 

I use a GSXR on the track Hey, it was a cheap track cast-off.Fully kitted for CCS it was a really sweet deal. Mind you, I will swap it out some day. At least my son has a 636 for the track so I get some credit.

Thats what I would think. Along with the 600 size frame and 750 engine as the other guys have said. There are thousands of cheap replacement parts floating around and thats a plus for the track.

 

I had a bit of a fetish with the GSXR 750 a while back. My first 2 street bikes were a 89 then an 01 750. I don't know why just Suzuki just build a 750 as it's a spectacular displacement.

With what I've read I've found the following out.

First off the 750 died because of Ducati pure and simple. It is also because of Ducati that we have 1000cc 4 cylinders, go figure eh? It stems from Ducati asking for the displacement increase to be competitive with a twin. Hence the evolution of the 916. When the 750 were struggling to keep up then the 4 cylinders got the 1000cc. I wonder if the 1000cc will eventually die and we are all riding 1200cc 4 cylinders.

The current 750 is a great bike but it's level of design isn't what it used to be. the 750 in pretty much the exact same as the 600 with a big bore kit. I'm sure the cases are a little different but they are based on the 600 as it's cheaper for R&D.

The 750 is easier to ride than a 600 IMO. The reason for that is it is or feels like a much more balanced bike in terms of engine performance. The 750 makes a little bit more power everywhere and a lot more in the top end. Think of a stock 750 as a built motor 600(not world level as I believe those are in the 150-160hp range).

I have never considered 600s middle weights always the lightweights. 750s are the true middleweights are can compete with almost anything on a circuit track. If you get a 750 you wont be sorry as long as you got a good bike to start with.

 

750 is one of the best overall track bikes, I have always loved riding them

 

brand new there is less than a $500 price difference between a gsxr600 and gsxr750. An experienced rider would be an idiot to not buy the 750 right now.
For the last 4 years, especially the 2012, the 750 has gotten excellent mag reviews for its track prowess. It does what the 600 does only with more hp/tq . So faster lap times with same rider on each bike set up for track. The gsxr 600 is under powered compared to the zx6r.
There are big bore kits, cams, racing head complete etc for the 750s. If I was going to be just getting into track days and had enough $ for a pretty new bike to make a track whore I would get a 750. But I like hp and knowing I could have gotten something faster, more potential etc and instead got a 600 would really bother me.
If I was experienced track rider it would be a 1k no doubt.

 

I have owned 2 GSXR 750's, an 04 and an 06 or 07. Both of them were superb bikes. I LOVE 750's but for track? what do you mean? for racing or track days?
For racing your going to be kinda hooped what class you can race in.As a track day weapon it would be an awesome machine.

If i had the money i would own a 750 as well.

 

Not worried about classes, just for track days for fun.

 

If it is just for track days then yeah, a 750 is the way to go for sure. I used to run both of mine on the track and it's was a lot more fun than trying to man handle a 1000 around.

 

Were your lap times close to the 1000, and which 1000?

 

I used to run an '07 CBR1000rr then switched to an '07 GSXR 750 followed by an '09 GSXR 750 mainly to have something more nimble than the old model CBR.

As you probably know, the 750 is a 600 frame and parts with a bigger capacity, so to me it was like having a worked 600 race bike without all the cost involved of building a works 600.

They where both fantastic bikes BUT...

My gen 4 feels as nimble as my GSXR 750's were, and that really suprised me, so the big benefit of the 750 handling is slowly slipping away and these days weight wise there's nothing in it between the 750's and 1000's.

Don't get me wrong, the 750's are plenty fast but as you do them up the good power seems to creep higher up the rev range and the window of needed grunt (against thousands) ends up in a small aggresive little window which makes it harder to ride fast.

If you can keep it singing and right in the top of rev range you'll love it, but the 1000's have a wider range of power. You'll be working harder than a 1000cc rider on a 750 to, as you'll be working the gearbox to stay in the good part of the rev range, which for an up and coming racer can be a good learning tool, so that's not all bad.

I loved reving the snot out of my 750, trying to stay infront of mates on thou's was a big challenge. I'd say it made me a better rider than I otherwise would have been as you have to make up the difference in braking and corner speed, they require a little more aggresion to get the most out of them.

Because the 750's made less torque than a 1000 they also used to give a bit more warning before the rear would let go, which was a welcome change to just being flicked off the 1000's, but now with traction control on the thou's and tyre tech catching back up to the power these 1000's are trying to put down it doesn't seem to matter so much these days.

Basically I'm glad I owned them, they did my riding craft some good, but really I'd buy a modern thou over a 750 if you are already experienced, I'd say the 750's are perfect for someone looking at a 600 that wants more useable power than the fluffy 600's and wants something they can grow into a little instead of scaring themselves with a thou.

If you can find a cheap good value 06 or up model, which where the first with the slipper clutch, I'd still buy it just new for new I'd pick a thou.

Hope that helps.

 

Very useful info. Thanks for the response. The usable torque of the 1000, and the speed on the straights is what will prob make my decision lean in favor of a Gen4 over the 750. Guess Ive always liked the idea of a 750 trackbike that I'm just wanting opinions of others to help make the best choice later.

I never raced the 750 nor the 1000 (ZX10R). The track was small with only a small straight stretch. That was the only part where a 1000 would pull on other bikes. Out of the MANY laps i did at the place i preferred the 750 without a doubt. If the track your going to be riding at has massive straight stretches and wide open sweepers then yes you may go a little quicker on a 1000 sure.

I will have a track bike together at the very least by the time the new Circuit of the Americas is doing track days in Austin TX.

 

I think the 06+ 750 would be an awesome track bike. They switched to the tech from the 05 GSXR 1000 in 2006 on the 600s and 750s. They are available for great prices, cheaper to maintain and easier on tires than a 1000, you don't have to worry about race classes since you're looking at just track days.

Year after year, the magazines always talk about the 750, about how it's the perfect track bike. They're not just making that stuff up for the hell of it.

As for lap times, I would expect the same rider on a 750 and a 1000 of equal technology and the same experience on both, would be within about 1 second of each other on most tracks. Maybe a couple seconds on a track like Road Atlanta with a longer straight.

 

Every time I see this thread I find myself wanting a 750. When I rode a friends it just melted into the turns without effort. Power was manageable too. Hard to explain how well it works, highly recommend riding one.

 

I am not a huge fan of how the GSXR 750 corners, I prefer the feel of the Kawi. BUT you certainly get used to it with a little practice. It is not BAD, but different and I just happen to prefer the feel of the Ninja. To me it feels like I have to force the Suzuki a bit more in the corner to get it to behave the way I want. Still it was a great deal and makes a good track ride.

 

Complete opposite for me. Im about 6'2 190. Crazy how different set ups and different bikes gel with riders.

 

the Gen IV 10R actually feels smaller than most 600s out right now, its pretty wild.....it feels smaller and lighter than my 08 zx-6 to wheel around as well