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I have a question that's purely from my lack of knowledge.. the new zx10r sold in India has euro 5 emissions? Can I buy a ecu from a different part of the world or are they all locked? I heard about the racing ecu from kawasaki but the lights don't work I guess. So can you Crack the racing ecu and give the bike lights?

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You clearly don't know what or how the emissions scheme works. The bikes generally aren't restricted at the ecu level as euro / au bikes have full power in the ecu. Emissions is the pollution and noise requirements the manufacturer must meet by putting a catalytic converter and a silencer on the bike to reduce emissions. That big box section under the bike on the exhaust is the catalytic converter and the exhaust silencer is there to keep noise down.

If you don't understand these things chances are you don't understand other things and I wouldn't be tinkering with your bike until you do. It doesn't matter if the bike makes 160 or 200 hp on the street because you will never get to using that, not by a long shot and not legally.

So my advice look through these great forums, educate yourself on how bikes work then you can tinker with bike, but you're not missing anything lol getting another ecu isn't going to magically change the bike.

Yes I'm being savage but too many ppl come here with silly ideas about things when if they spent a bit of time and or see it as an investment of time they learn a lot more not only about their bike but how to be a better ride also.
 
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Part of the Noise and emissions are controlled by the ECU. The exhaust valve and the RPMs will go to 13,xxx RPM, but the power drops at 12,000 RPM (I had my bike dynoed stock) if you put the stock bike on a dyno you will see the power is restricted at that point even though the engine keeps climbing. ECU will close off the ram air flapper and exhaust valve actuator will restrict flow.
So his question isn't really that Ludacris. The UK maps on the ECU are way less restricted than here in the USA. The first step most of us take even if getting a dyno is download a UK map. UK map produce higher RPM and way less restrictions.
Not sure India is similar to the UK, but from what I gather there maps/settings are way lower. The Asian market has the most restricted of all ECU settings/Maps.

I am waiting for Woolich or ECTune to come out with a flash for this thing.

stock dynoed June 2021.

 
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USA emissions standards are not euro 5. Some things are similar, though. California also has specific emissions the bike has to confirm to as well.

I don't know if it's California , or USA, but one of them have a noise test at a test point of 1/2 of the bikes electronic redline. This is easier to meet if the redline is lowered from 14,000 to 12,000 or whatever the specific figure is. You'll notice this limit on almost every bike, not zx10 specific.

No conspiracy to slow people down, save lives, or save children. It's the rules they have to live by if they care to meet the standards.

Look at all the trouble,and money VW had to spend when their cars were not compliant. No one wants that, so these bikes meet the requirement, and then some. No one wants trouble because they pushed the limit.
 
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USA emissions standards are not euro 5. Some things are similar, though. California also has specific emissions the bike has to confirm to as well.

I don't know if it's California , or USA, but one of them have a noise test at a test point of 1/2 of the bikes electronic redline. This is easier to meet if the redline is lowered from 14,000 to 12,000 or whatever the specific figure is. You'll notice this limit on almost every bike, not zx10 specific.

No conspiracy to slow people down, save lives, or save children. It's the rules they have to live by if they care to meet the standards.

Look at all the trouble,and money VW had to spend when their cars were not compliant. No one wants that, so these bikes meet the requirement, and then some. No one wants trouble because they pushed the limit.
was prob cali with that requirement there stuff is crazy, having looked at the parts digrams for them they have more crap in the ramair also....
 
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I got bored one day and decided to learn about the cal emissions laws. I thought it was odd that I was in Utah, and my bike was a cal emissions bike. In 2012, there were specific cal-non cal bikes. I don't know how they were distributed, but I got one..lucky me, and it's silly EVAP system.

But, I think the test specifics were buried in one of these sites. You'll want to be drunk, or something, before you read them. Not very exciting, but it very much explained what happens and why our bikes are so heavily restricted.

The most interesting thing I saw was that the obvious was missing. There wasn't anything about how much fuel you burned on the compliant motorcycle. In my dumb mind, I thought that might factor in.


 
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Most if not all the Japanese Bike Manufactures make one version of the bike. That is the one to meet Euro 5.
Even if USA have less restrictive Emissions they still sell the same bike. And they make all the bikes to Cali standard. All the kaws I've bought living on the east coast have all the same California emissions restrictions. Just like all cars sold in USA meet Cali restrictions even though they do not have to meet that standard for the other states. It is way to hard to have so many different models (I'm sure it cost more over all also). With cars and bikes having ECU to control so much it is easier to control Noise and emissions with the ECU.

Best way to control emission is to restrict the bike at certain RPMs Like I said, the bikes in the USA are restricted to low/mid 13k RPMs (175mph on dyno) but the restrictions come on at 12,000 RPM. At that point the power cut off and falls flat. I do not have my dyno sheet to show it.

USA bikes have RAM air flappers that closes and cut off air flow, and exhaust valve actuators that do the same same thing...restrict some of the free flow of the exhaust. That may be to help with noise...

But as I said above, when I flash my bike I usually take a UK map to derestrict most of it then get a dyno tune.

USA ram air intake...
With flapper inside and the valve actuator on top.

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UK model....

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All the parts for emission controls....only really needed for the California models, but they come on all USA models.

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