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Hey guys,
having an issue with the ZX10... I've had the battery on a tender for the last 6 months, so the other day put it back into the bike in preperation for the upcoming race season.
I've got power- as the dash lights up and does it's test thing, but there is no noise like it normally does when it's trying to push fuel through the fuel pump, and there is no power going to the power commander(as nothing lights up on the power commander). The bike turns over but will not start... what do you think the issue is??? I'm stuck!
BTW I do have the ground hooked up to the negitive battery terminal.

Please offer thoughts.

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Check your fuel pump....

Sounds like a dead pump.

First, make sure your battery isn't the culprit, really dead batteries may not get a full charge from a trickle tender regardless of how long they're on, or it might be a dead cell. Use jumper cables to jack in a known good 12v.

Then take apart the three wire connector under the L subframe rail under the driver's seat, jumper 12v battery directly to the pos and neg pins (the third pin is the fuel level sensor). Have the key on and the kill switch on when you do this. The pump should immediately spin and pressurize the lines enough to start.

If not, check the pump relay (three box black box atop the ECU under the seat), there's a pinout check diagram in the manual that'll guide your resistances.

Otherwise all I can think of is check your lockout switches...clutch, kickstand.

If your pump is dead, there's a concise writeup on here on replacing the pump assembly.
 

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sounds like a dead pump.

First, make sure your battery isn't the culprit, really dead batteries may not get a full charge from a trickle tender regardless of how long they're on, or it might be a dead cell. Use jumper cables to jack in a known good 12v.

Then take apart the three wire connector under the l subframe rail under the driver's seat, jumper 12v battery directly to the pos and neg pins (the third pin is the fuel level sensor). Have the key on and the kill switch on when you do this. The pump should immediately spin and pressurize the lines enough to start.

If not, check the pump relay (three box black box atop the ecu under the seat), there's a pinout check diagram in the manual that'll guide your resistances.

Otherwise all i can think of is check your lockout switches...clutch, kickstand.

If your pump is dead, there's a concise writeup on here on replacing the pump assembly.
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Did you figure out what was wrong ? mine is doing the same thing but i got voltage to fuel pump when i turn the key on but it doesn't make the regular sound it usually does when you turn key.. ( computer whine sound briefly ) or whatever but it quit making that sound and now i got no power to my pciii and bike just turns over without trying to start.. even unhooked pciii and no change.. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated...
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Bet any money both of you guys have fried the ground wire for the fuel pump harness.

Start peeling apart the harness working toward the main and see what else let the factory smoke out....
 

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power commander get's power from fuel injector harness.........so is the fuel pump, check your relay, it can be tested with a multimeter.
 

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Well checked out the ground bus and positive junction that is under seat by fuel pump connector and all is good, tested the relays that's on top of ecu everything tested good , I'm getting power to fuel pump with key .. but bike doesn't make the whine or noise that usually always did when you turned key on... (Kinda reminds me of computer passing post when booting up) but I have no idea why or what to check next.. bike will turn over but doesn't even try to start...any other ideas?? They are greatly appreciated and I can't be the first person to run into this (actually have read several post of similar symptoms but never the cure... Please help and thanks to all who read this....
 

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Hello again and I've flicked kill switch back n forth a dozen times at least , just hoping..but thanks for that.. mine won't turn over with kill switch on (not in run) but I did notice while giggling wires trying to get the sound of computer or electronics (like it did Everytime when it started) I believe all would make the sound I'm taking about.. anyways the f1 light flashes when I'm cranking it over !! Is this normal?? I can't remember if it did that before (although it always started relatively easy and quick so I never payed attention.. bike is almost stock has aftermarket pipe and I made the servo dummy plug so f1 light wouldn't be on.. (not from exhaust at least) but it's not on when keys turned on , only when cranking it over... Any help is appreciated!!!! Thanks
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Hello again and I've flicked kill switch back n forth a dozen times at least , just hoping..but thanks for that.. mine won't turn over with kill switch on (not in run) but I did notice while giggling wires trying to get the sound of computer or electronics (like it did Everytime when it started) I believe all would make the sound I'm taking about.. anyways the f1 light flashes when I'm cranking it over !! Is this normal?? I can't remember if it did that before (although it always started relatively easy and quick so I never payed attention.. bike is almost stock has aftermarket pipe and I made the servo dummy plug so f1 light wouldn't be on.. (not from exhaust at least) but it's not on when keys turned on , only when cranking it over... Any help is appreciated!!!! Thanks
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Ugh! Shit! It's not an F1 light! :rolleyes: :headshake: :BangHead: :shady: It's an....

FI light - Fault Indication!!!

http://www.zx-10r.net/forum/f28/all-gens-so-your-fi-light-218666.html

The light is flashing during the start sequence because your tip-over sensor (vehicle down sensor) is activated. You need to check that. The FI light should stay on steady when there's an error detected. It should not flash while trying to start - unless the tip-over sensor is activated. :wink:

 

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Ugh! Shit! It's not an F1 light! :rolleyes: :headshake: :BangHead: :shady: It's an....

FI light - Fault Indication!!!

http://www.zx-10r.net/forum/f28/all-gens-so-your-fi-light-218666.html

The light is flashing during the start sequence because your tip-over sensor (vehicle down sensor) is activated. You need to check that. The FI light should stay on steady when there's an error detected. It should not flash while trying to start - unless the tip-over sensor is activated. :wink:


F1 (Formula 1) is way cooler than FI:biggrin:
 

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F1 (Formula 1) is way cooler than FI:biggrin:
I can't wait for the day that Formula 1 changes the name of that series to Phormula 1 (PH1)! Then I can post up about it not being an PH1 light! :lol:
 

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I can't wait till Formula 1 changes its name to Formula I, so when i google FI it won't take me to kawasaki forums to posts of people with bike problems:biggrin:
:idea: :ayyy: I hate when that happens too! :badteeth:
 

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Ok well excuse me for getting that wrong... FI light then , and where is this tip over sensor that you speak of?? and what's it look like ? My bike hasn't been laid over since i've owned it so kinda weird that it went out but I'll be happy as all get out if that's what it is... I will let you know as soon as i get off work and get home..
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Ok well excuse me for getting that wrong... FI light then , and where is this tip over sensor that you speak of?? and what's it look like ? My bike hasn't been laid over since i've owned it so kinda weird that it went out but I'll be happy as all get out if that's what it is... I will let you know as soon as i get off work and get home..
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The tip-over sensor is under the fuel tank just in front of the battery. It is a black plastic piece mounted vertically by 2 bolts on either side that hold it in. It will be marked "UP" with an arrow. It has a 3-wire connector hooked to it.

Just because the bike hasn't been down, doesn't mean the sensor isn't bad. A big jolt to it like hitting it or dropping it can damage it. Or the wiring going to it is bad. Especially if it gets fuel on it since it is located right there. If we're still talking about a Gen 1 that is. :dontknow:
 

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Ok well excuse me for getting that wrong... FI light then , and where is this tip over sensor that you speak of?? and what's it look like ? My bike hasn't been laid over since i've owned it so kinda weird that it went out but I'll be happy as all get out if that's what it is... I will let you know as soon as i get off work and get home..
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Maybe at first sight but after being on this forum for years, ive learned its actually a super duper common thing to have happen and many times one of the first things a person will look at when doing diagnostics.
 

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Ok well that's not it or at least doesn't appear to be it.. how do I test the tilt sensor? Or jump it out to get it out of the equation?? Anyway I doubt it's got anything to do with it since it acts the same way (turns over but no sounds or ecu or anything) with sensor unplugged.. Fi light did stay on when unplugged tho and went back out when I plugged sensor back in so it appears to be working correctly... Any help is greatly appreciated!!!! And I can post a pic or video if that would help?? Idk what you'd wanna see but if ya tell me I'd be happy to help you help me....lol. Thanks to all who read this...
 
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