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You guys will think this a bit funny...6 years ago when I got my Gen 4 ABS (2011), I bought a Shorai battery from one of the vendors on this site. 2 weeks ago left my key on for 2 hours while the fan was cooling the bike down. I came out and everything seemed fine. I turned the key off and went on to do some other stuff. Saturday I went to go on a bike ride and the battery was absolutely dead...turn the key on and absolutely nothing came on. So I called Shorai, and they have a 5 year warranty, they shipped me a new battery for my ABS bike for $100 and I got it today...and lo and behold, the battery in my bike is a non ABS battery at about HALF the size of the ABS battery. There's no way that replacement ABS battery will work..it won't even fit in the tray without me removing a rib and relocating my BAZZAZ which I have mounted on top of the wrong battery. So I am thinking fawk it, this battery lasted 6 years, just to get the smaller battery and be done with it. Or should I go through the headache of trying to get the much larger battery to work? Thoughts?
 

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I have had the non abs Shorai for 4 years and still performs how it should!I don't no what the current draw difference is between the abs and non abs bikes but I haven't had any problems at all using this Shorai


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I have had the non abs Shorai for 4 years and still performs how it should!I don't no what the current draw difference is between the abs and non abs bikes but I haven't had any problems at all using this Shorai


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I am assuming you have an ABS bike?
 

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Yes you assume correct!sorry about that I should have said!however my abs unit is only there for decoration as I've disconnected all brake lines but oem wiring is intact to stop any fault codes appearing


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the abs bikes have the larger battery, and the posts are reversed. old guy, what makes you think you have an abs bike, if you received the smaller battery first, and it was correct?

the tone rings on the wheels are for traction control so... both abs and non abs have tone rings on the wheels. if your brake lines go right to the masters (front and rear) and don't not go to a modulator valve system... you do not have abs.

abs bikes with the big battery have the tray with no stop fin in it, to allow the bigger battery.

my guess is you have a non abs bike. Ski
 

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Had the battery for 6 years and never used a charger...sent a picture to Shorai today and they are sending me a replacement. Said the battery I have was never spec'd for the bike...I showed them it fit the battery tray perfectly and the one THEY show would absolutely not fit at all...all they can figure is that I have one of the first Gen 4 ZX-10R with ABS (TRUE) and Kawi modded the tray later for a bigger battery...which could be true. My tray has vertical plastic pieces that would never allow their larger battery to fit...only the one I had fit perfectly.
 

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the abs bikes have the larger battery, and the posts are reversed. old guy, what makes you think you have an abs bike, if you received the smaller battery first, and it was correct?

the tone rings on the wheels are for traction control so... both abs and non abs have tone rings on the wheels. if your brake lines go right to the masters (front and rear) and don't not go to a modulator valve system... you do not have abs.

abs bikes with the big battery have the tray with no stop fin in it, to allow the bigger battery.

my guess is you have a non abs bike. Ski
Fraid not...have to pull the ABS fuses for track days.
 

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I have the '11 and '13, same tray. Also, if I don't have the shorai charger going the battery will be dead inside three days, but possible I'm confusing bikes. It sure worked well for you.

edit: bought the '11 April of 2012 and the '13 in September 2014, both new. Mention this so that you can compare time frame as Kawa can change whatever before they ship. You may have purchased the '11 in 2010.
 

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I have the '11 and '13, same tray. Also, if I don't have the shorai charger going the battery will be dead inside three days, but possible I'm confusing bikes. It sure worked well for you.
Aren't you the guy that blew up two motors? My bike can sit for a month and it starts right up...the key is to let it sit with key on for a bit before you engage the starter.
 

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Aren't you the guy that blew up two motors? My bike can sit for a month and it starts right up...the key is to let it sit with key on for a bit before you engage the starter.
I believe Shorai suggests you quickly;y hit the starter button to turn the headlight on (doesn't come on with just the key on) to help heat up and start "activating" the battery internally.

Ive had my Shorai in my non-ABS Gen 4 for a few years now, I live in a state that gets cold during the winter months and Ive had 0 issues with the battery. I dont have a charger for it and dont see a need for one really. This year my bike sat for 2 months straight without being turned on, when I finally got it back together it started right up without issues.


To OP, you could buy a used piece from an ABS bike on Ebay that has the bigger tray in it and swap out the one you have, its not a painted piece so even new I dont think it would cost an arm or a leg. Unless you want to hack apart the one you have currently to accept the larger battery that appears to be required (there is a reason I bought a non-ABS bike).
 

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Got the battery today, installed it and fired right up....life is good...50% off ending costing me like $78 or something around there. and was actually 6 years..
 

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So off topic from the op. But if my bike was abs and i delete the abs, minus leaving the module hooked up to avoid codes, can i use a non abs battery? Or is it still drawing to much power in theory.
 

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I have the '11 and '13, same tray. Also, if I don't have the shorai charger going the battery will be dead inside three days, but possible I'm confusing bikes. It sure worked well for you.
The shorai battery at full charge is designed to sit unused with zero loss for up to 12 months.
 

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I've had nothing but issues with Shorai batteries. My first one was dead in about 13 months. So I got the replacement for 50% off. They swore up and down it was because I didn't keep it on the charger over the winter and that starting it every couple weeks wasn't enough for it. So I ended up buying the charger as well. It was charged all winter as suggested and working great...until it decided to die on me again. Now I'm stuck with another dead battery just outside the one year mark. So I'll have to pay 50% again to warranty. If they decide to return any of my emails. But I decided it's not worth the money to get another. I've already wasted to much money on the batteries and charger for them to keep dying on me. It would have been a lot cheaper to just buy a new battery every year at this point. I'm completely disappointed with the performance and support I've gotten from Shorai. I may try a Ballistic battery, but I think at this point I might as well get a regular battery and a new charger for that.
 

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I have had five bikes with Shorai batteries. Two years in my Gen 4. Never had a failure or issue. I use either the Shorai charger, or a Battery Tender designed to be used with LiFe (Lithium-Iron) batteries. Many riders aren't aware of the difference between LiFe and Lithium Ion, it is huge. Totally different chemistry.

If you live in a cold climate, forget LiFe batteries altogether because they don't like cold weather unless you want to learn the drill of turning on the headlight or other load to heat it up.

They will deplete over time with newer bikes that have a constant current draw. If I don't ride the ZX-10R for a few weeks it'll crank slow and be down a bit on charge.

If I had to do it again, I'd get the ABS battery for my non-ABS bike, it's still a big weight savings but way more CCA and AH capacity.

Also keep in mind the multiple threads showing that installation of a LiFe battery resolves issues with the steering damper ECU; they operate at a higher voltage than lead-acid.
 
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