[cwrzx]

Can one change all cells to 100.0 in every gear and all TPS? Wouldn't that make 1 to 1 throttle to throttle blades?

 

[turtle1000]

Can one change all cells to 100.0 in every gear and all TPS? Wouldn't that make 1 to 1 throttle to throttle blades?

Pretty sure the bike will run like trash if it runs at all. But I'm no tuner so....

 

[SkyDork]

Try it and report back the findings.

 

[Justin33]

Wouldn't this just make the TPS read as wide open regardless of input?

 

[chiffeee]

ETV map is the ratio from throttle input to the output. if 100% the ratio is 1:1. TPS is a sensor that reads the position of throttle blade. I haven't try put everything at 100% but by theory, it should work, meaning making 1:1 ratio from throttle input to output. because the throttle input is not 90 degree it would make it hard to control the bike. in another hand, the software may have failsafe which would put the ECU in limp mode if that happens.

 

[Ejrzx10]

im constantly playing with the ETVs. The bike will run perfectly fine. Its comparable to removing them. For example.... notice how neutral has much more aggressive ETV tables compared to the "in gear" tables.

If you have the software.... experiment. Thats what ive been doing. I HATE the factory ETV tables. I personally think the bike has terrible manners. You have to give it a fair amount of throttle in the lower rpm/tps to get the bike to move. Then it just "turns on" around 4k and starts going on its own. So far... thats the ETV tables. Also... alot of the twitchy throttle comes from the secondaries being too open at low tps. Ive reduced the angle of them quite a bit for smoother on/off throttle. And opened them up more from 5-30% TPS so it doesnt seem so lazy.

 

[michael4012]

Its all very well adjusting them at will to better refine various parts of response using the butt dyno, but without adjusting your fuel map to suit all your doing is either restricting air flow to richin the fuel ratio or increasing air flow to lean out the fuel ratio, please be careful.

 

[Maniac_ZX10R]

The Gen 5 doesn't have sondary throttle blades. Don't know what you're adjusting.

Would be quite interesting what happens when you make the map 1:1.

Its the same reading about secondaries, ones say you should not keep it open by map all the time. This could result in a poor airflow. Others delete them completly and say the bikes are running great.

Sometimes it is confusing...

 

[Maniac_ZX10R]

Another thing is does it allow numbers over 100. If so we would be able to make an electronic short throw throttle?

 

[cwrzx]

Dyno'd it last week and changed ETV to 100% every where but =<10% TPS. When you watch TPS while on the dyno, you see how much of a delay there is in getting to WOT. I did take it for a short ride but it was too cold for a long ride. It did feel more responsive but I also put a full Akra exhaust on and tuned it. When it gets warmer I'll be able find out how much better it is.

 

[Maniac_ZX10R]

Wow, interesting. But a little what I tought. How bout you pros in tuning? Is that a good or bad way?

What power and torque did you get? Do you have a graph?

 

[cwrzx]

Here you go.

 

[Maniac_ZX10R]

Looking very good. Straight up all the way. How did she feel in WOT from the low rpms? Did you have to play with the throttle to get this beautiful line?

Asking cause since a got my ECU flashed a had a little stuttering down low when open throttle wide and quick. Tought it would be a to agressive ATV map maybe...

 

[cwrzx]

I have only ridden it once since the dyno and only for about 15 minutes because it's cold here. I rolled the throttle to wot once and it felt great. With my 2008 cbr1000rr I could rip it wot and it would go. With my gen4 I learned you have to roll the throttle. I'll find out more when it warms up around here but I assume I'll have to roll the throttle.

 

[Ejrzx10]

So you ETV maps are all set to 100% everywhere except 10% tps or less?

 

[cwrzx]

Here an example

 

[Maniac_ZX10R]

I'd really love to see how my setup is now. Can't wait for my Woolich kit. How did you tune your bike? Woolich autotune or what?

 

[Ejrzx10]

Here an example

curious to see how that responds at WOT. As in full twist from 5k up. Wondering if it will bog or choke at all

 

[cwrzx]

Started out tuning using O2 from his setup/dyno but then he noticed Woolich O2 matched his so he completed tuning watching O2 Woolich display. I'll use Woolich to make some AF adjustments when it warms up and I ride.

 

[Ejrzx10]

did you guys do any part throttle tuning or just WOT?