[Ergotomine]

OK this is not a definite, but I've found a contact from the racing community in England who specialises in composites i.e. Carbon fibre, I asked him about airboxes like this, and his reply was:-

Hi there,
Yes i could do the carbon airboxes no problem. I dont have any moulds or patterns tho so i would need a pattern to copy.
If we could get the mould made,do you reckon there would be any other boys on here that would be interested in them? just so it covers the cost of the mould etc? If you could get 5 guys on board,i could them for around £200 in black carbon.

please let me know what you think

This is what I'm looking at, its not the one commercially available, its from an 05 British Factory superbike

 

[carbonlt1]

nice

i want in please.

 

[cbolton69]

that is sweet.... what do you think the weight diff. would be???

 

[morefire]

That race bike has the flies removed...... Just sayin :thumbsup:

 

[GoFaster]

No air filter, no thanks!

 

[carbonlt1]

it would probably be heavier

It would probably be heavy than the stock airbox. But, the increase in airbox volume would probably give a low and mid power increase. as for the filter, you could just use the BMC race filter.

Hell, If it would be cheaper, I'd take a fiberglass one instead!

 

[9R to 10R]

I might be down. I would be interested in seeing a dyno chart of Horses bike. Tuning might be a issue for me though, no custom tuners around.Maybe share a map?

 

[Ergotomine]

Airbox

Things have gone fast since this thread was posted, its a definite option once I get mine { one of what someone on this forum described as "unobtainium}
I will not be installing immediately, I will be putting some type of filter in there {need to research that 1}.
Am reliably informed that I will need a re-map {mines coming with the factory velocity stacks as well}
When its fitted & remapped I will post Dyno figures, and happily share my map with any1 with similar mods; although personally I think this is only going to show its max potential at higher speeds on the road / track i.e. when some air starts to pressurize the box {controversial I know)
Anyway just wanted to know if theres enough interest to bother making a batch, £200 uk is way cheaper than
http://www.worldofqbcarbon.com/products/kawasaki/zx10r/zx10rproducts.htm
and has a larger volume, except there's includes the velocity stacks in the price, this wont.
Don't know any more than I have posted.
Just want feedback from those interested.
Thx Ergo

 

[fireman69]

I am quite interested. Any info on this would be appreciated.

 

[Scavenger8620]

no air filter, no thanks!

:+1:

 

[HammyUK]

There is a specific filter for this airbox and it uses the underside of the tank as the lid.
You WILL need to get copies of the stacks made as these are what hold the airbox in place and are designed to flow correctly with this airbox - thats why QB's is £600, it includes £300 of stacks, the airbox, rubber seal and the £100 filter.
The one Horse has is an ex Hawk/Vivaldi Scott Smart design which is the template for the QB version. Also QB do the road version which allows you to keep the secondaries. The race version as Horse has means removing ALL of the secondaries, servo, linkages and needs either the kit loom or a LOT of extra parts to make it work properly.
Ask Rob at RJS - it took them weeks to get Horse's working properly with the road loom and a box full of extra parts.
Also unless you plan on having plenty of flow work done on the head and the cams to match it doesn't give much more gains than a BMC or K&N,

 

[9R to 10R]

There is a specific filter for this airbox and it uses the underside of the tank as the lid.
You WILL need to get copies of the stacks made as these are what hold the airbox in place and are designed to flow correctly with this airbox - thats why QB's is £600, it includes £300 of stacks, the airbox, rubber seal and the £100 filter.
The one Horse has is an ex Hawk/Vivaldi Scott Smart design which is the template for the QB version. Also QB do the road version which allows you to keep the secondaries. The race version as Horse has means removing ALL of the secondaries, servo, linkages and needs either the kit loom or a LOT of extra parts to make it work properly.
Ask Rob at RJS - it took them weeks to get Horse's working properly with the road loom and a box full of extra parts.
Also unless you plan on having plenty of flow work done on the head and the cams to match it doesn't give much more gains than a BMC or K&N,

Kind of what I figured, more work than its worth. Just remove the secondaries, and maybe stacks (if you got the cheese) and throw in a BMC.

 

[HammyUK]

If you do it right it can show over 180 rwp from a 1st gen, but you need to take your time and make sure you have everything first BEFORE you start.

 

[925stunna]

It IS pretty sweet i wish i had the means to do all the work and do it right. Thanks for postin up all the info Hammy!

 

[jdgun_13]

Been watching these on EURO ebay, and was sondering with the packagin of the TB's how this was going to work.
The versio for the Rc51 from Thorsten durbahn was awesome, with air filter total weight was like 20 OZ's...and had a nice midrange bump but not so much up top which was fine.

Will watch for another one as maybe something to play with, putting in some workable Air filters should not be an issue if you dont ride in the rain or areas with lots of dust and sand, as the area between the rubber inlets and the airbox has enough room for a foam type filter and a (mesh type gate) to work, will see if i can find some pics of my old airbox.

 

[FTHOODZX10R]

how much?

 

[MaxxxEdge]

Anyone ever fit one of these successfully on a roadbike?

 

[08zx10rny]

can we get one for the 08 models??

 

[tasos]

Also unless you plan on having plenty of flow work done on the head and the cams to match it doesn't give much more gains than a BMC or K&N,

:+1: Exactly what i was going to say. If you increase the air volume you need to prepare your engine to accept & burn the extra mixture.
So without some serious head work and maybe bigger injectors this won't give much. But when is done right....

 

[madnessracing]

I want in but I want one for ZX14