[Melo_720]

I have a 17 snowflake edition and been looking at the M4 gp slip on exhaust. I like how it looks just wondering how it sounds and if i should go with it . Any thoughts? Also thinking of getting a new air filter and then a woolich flash. Am i going the right route?

 

[ShawnG]

I have the m4 gp on my track bike. Forewarning the thing is extremely loud and does give it more of a high pitch sound higher up in the rpm's. I have had multiple people mistake it for a 600 from a distance. But with that being said I like it and doesn't brake the bank.

 

[Melo_720]

I have the m4 gp on my track bike. Forewarning the thing is extremely loud and does give it more of a high pitch sound higher up in the rpm's. I have had multiple people mistake it for a 600 from a distance. But with that being said I like it and doesn't brake the bank.

Is that with the baffle on? Also do you think it’ll get too much attention by cops?

 

[ShawnG]

Sorry didn't answer the second part of the question. Any slip on relatively is going to give you the same performance with a flash. I would recommend you send out your ecu while you are waiting for the exhaust to come in so that you can do it all at once (the right way). You wont notice any gains from an aftermarket air filter on a generic flash, stock bike but since you're gonna be in there pulling the ecu its good maintenance to replace it.

 

[ShawnG]

Is that with the baffle on? Also do you think it’ll get too much attention by cops?

Baffle out and not anymore than any other sportbike. You can have fun on the streets but you gotta be wise and pick your shots fast before you draw to much attention to yourself.

 

[ridersdiscount]

I have a 17 snowflake edition and been looking at the M4 gp slip on exhaust. I like how it looks just wondering how it sounds and if i should go with it . Any thoughts? Also thinking of getting a new air filter and then a woolich flash. Am i going the right route?

We have been selling M4 for years, shoot us a PM or a call if interested in ordering one up from a site sponsor. :biggrin:

 

[Twistedsocal13]

I'm a big fan of two bros exhaust. I love the more throaty sou d and the shorty low mount race exhaust comes with the cat delete mid pipe. Also, not sure why anyone would opt to send thier ECU out and pay almost as much as a full woolich with wideband and log box costs since the flash is generic and can't be changed without sending the damn thing back again, plus the wait time etc. I like to ride whenever I want and so sending the ECU out is a non started for me. drop the extra couple hundred and get the woolich setup, no need for race tools just standard racing tuned and if you don't get the log box and zetronics wide band it will be a couple hundred cheaper. ,if you want to get the most out of your bike without actually splitting the case or otherwise doing internal mods, the wideband and logbox will allow you to dial it in and will also allow you to do stuff like enable autoblip for clutch less down shifting. disable all Fi codes and pretty much anything you could want. wish I would have jumped on the bandwagon earlier instead of trying to save money and having someone else flash my ECU the first 2 gen 5's I owned. My third one I just went for it and will never look back. And you most definitely will notice a difference if you change filter and drop the cat and exhaust servo, remove ram air flap, ditch the emmision crap and dial in the tune with the wideband. it's night and day, maybe not a ton more power but way way more ridable and responsive in my opinion

 

[GreenWeenie]

I have a Graves low mount and link pipe. I think for more mid-range and throttle response i will be switching to the Graves Works full system next season.

I love the Graves, not too loud, looks all business and performs well enough for most.

 

[GreenWeenie]

Graves Low Mount

 

[LDH]

I'm a little more old school and appreciate honest performance gains so ARATA. Doesn't hurt that you can get a Gen5 Full Ti system for less than $1400 shipped either...

 

[Melo_720]

I'm a big fan of two bros exhaust. I love the more throaty sou d and the shorty low mount race exhaust comes with the cat delete mid pipe. Also, not sure why anyone would opt to send thier ECU out and pay almost as much as a full woolich with wideband and log box costs since the flash is generic and can't be changed without sending the damn thing back again, plus the wait time etc. I like to ride whenever I want and so sending the ECU out is a non started for me. drop the extra couple hundred and get the woolich setup, no need for race tools just standard racing tuned and if you don't get the log box and zetronics wide band it will be a couple hundred cheaper. ,if you want to get the most out of your bike without actually splitting the case or otherwise doing internal mods, the wideband and logbox will allow you to dial it in and will also allow you to do stuff like enable autoblip for clutch less down shifting. disable all Fi codes and pretty much anything you could want. wish I would have jumped on the bandwagon earlier instead of trying to save money and having someone else flash my ECU the first 2 gen 5's I owned. My third one I just went for it and will never look back. And you most definitely will notice a difference if you change filter and drop the cat and exhaust servo, remove ram air flap, ditch the emmision crap and dial in the tune with the wideband. it's night and day, maybe not a ton more power but way way more ridable and responsive in my opinion

sweet bike man!! And thanks for that info real detailed. Definitely going to be looking into all that and will post pics when finished. Definitely trying to improve the response on it especially on low rpms. Kinda want it to respond as it does at 6 7k rpms you know

 

[Twistedsocal13]

yeah, the zx10 will never be a crazy power producer down low like it is up high short of going all out and having the crank knife edged and balanced, changing the cams and dropping 1 in front while going up 2 in the rear. maybe the 1/5 mod as well as the standard intake and exhaust and flash stuff. block offs and yeah, she wakes up well enough once you get over 3k so it's not that big a deal. best luck with whatever direction you decide, it's your bike so only you need to be happy with how it turns out. And thanks, I love my bike and always appreciate it when others like how I set her up..

 

[SkyDork]

Well, since you're soliciting opinions, I'll post mine for you. 😉

As an M4 owner myself, I'd say the GP version is the worst one they make. Not only is that think ear-splitting loud, the flat painted megaphone style does nothing for the lines on the bike. They make nice exhausts, but the GP is at the bottom of the list list. I have the Street Slayer and the sound is very, VERY close to the Graves slip-on. It's loud, but has a deep tone to it and sounds much better than any GP I've heard. Like LDH, I'm a bit old-school and the standard mount Tech 1 from M4 would be comparable. As they go, I'd say Street Slayer, then Tech 1, and then any other exhaust than the GP. 🧐

As for power, you're not going to gain anything down low with any slip-on. The motor is peaky and you've got to slip it up to get any power out of it. The slip-ons are about weight reduction, sound, and looks. Minimal power gains can be made with them if properly tuned, but what you're looking for won't happen with with that either.

 

[Melo_720]

I'm a big fan of two bros exhaust. I love the more throaty sou d and the shorty low mount race exhaust comes with the cat delete mid pipe. Also, not sure why anyone would opt to send thier ECU out and pay almost as much as a full woolich with wideband and log box costs since the flash is generic and can't be changed without sending the damn thing back again, plus the wait time etc. I like to ride whenever I want and so sending the ECU out is a non started for me. drop the extra couple hundred and get the woolich setup, no need for race tools just standard racing tuned and if you don't get the log box and zetronics wide band it will be a couple hundred cheaper. ,if you want to get the most out of your bike without actually splitting the case or otherwise doing internal mods, the wideband and logbox will allow you to dial it in and will also allow you to do stuff like enable autoblip for clutch less down shifting. disable all Fi codes and pretty much anything you could want. wish I would have jumped on the bandwagon earlier instead of trying to save money and having someone else flash my ECU the first 2 gen 5's I owned. My third one I just went for it and will never look back. And you most definitely will notice a difference if you change filter and drop the cat and exhaust servo, remove ram air flap, ditch the emmision crap and dial in the tune with the wideband. it's night and day, maybe not a ton more power but way way more ridable and responsive in my opinion

Hey will you help through this process. I’m trying to learn especially from people with experience.. i got my full system penta carbon exhaust installed myself . I just ordered my sprint air filter, you said i should just buy the woolich kit to flash it on my own? Also would i still need to buy a servo buddy if i end yo purchasing the woolich kit?

 

[Twistedsocal13]

Yes I will happily help and no with the woolich kit, you will not need a servo buddy

 

[chiod1]

I have the graves HIGH mount and I love it. Did anyone mention that you can get more power from a longer exhaust. You lose power with the low and shorter pipes.

 

[Melo_720]

I have the graves HIGH mount and I love it. Did anyone mention that you can get more power from a longer exhaust. You lose power with the low and shorter pipes.

Ummm no didn’t know that but that’s definitely great to know!!! A little late now that i got my brocks penta carbon full exhaust ... lol... 🤷🏽‍♂️

 

[chiod1]

Also the bike comes with great titanium headers I really don’t think they have to be changed.

 

[Twistedsocal13]

Also the bike comes with great titanium headers I really don’t think they have to be changed.

The ti headers don't leave a whole lot of room for improvement and most of the time the aftermarket stuff weighs more. The only thing is that with aftermarket they are usually fully tuned to the can that goes with them.

 

[Twistedsocal13]

I have the graves HIGH mount and I love it. Did anyone mention that you can get more power from a longer exhaust. You lose power with the low and shorter pipes.

Actually that's not true, pipes in general can only optimize a bikes power output over a very short rpm range. Longer pipes help but only on low rpm and actually take power away at higher rpm where our bikes naturally wake up anyway, besides ram air doesn't kick in till you have speed and RPM up in the higher ranges anyway so why not compliment what our bikes already have going for them? Not to mention the weight and aerodynamic penalties of having a longer pipe setup and possible ground clearance issues with some setups..You want more power down low then drop a tooth in the front and or go up a couple in the rear and it will be just fine at the cost of some top end. I like top end but really once the bike gets moving it has power for days. I just spend more time in higher rpm since that is where the bikes natural power band sits already. Here is an article from bagger but the same principal applies to sports bikes as it does to Harley's

Exhaust Pipe Fundamentals - Exhausting Fundamentals

More Than Hot Air...

www.baggersmag.com