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Hi Guys

Really wanted to ask this question and I did loads of reading and research before bringing it up on the forum. While there is a lot of opinions and experiences regarding this on the web, it seems generally this is more a bike specific question which is why I decided to raise it here.

I've got the gen 5 with approx 2,600km on the clock now and loving very bit about my bike. My previous bike was a Aprilia RS250 2-stroke which I could never wheelie because it just didn't have the power. Now obviously I am not advocating that wheelie's are something that everyone should do and I have no experience with them (i try to be as safe as possible). Anyone here have any experience with wheelies on their gen 5 or previous gens?

Does traction control need to be off? What is your method? What are your thoughts and opinions?

Would love to see what you guys have to say!

Thanks in advance
 

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if you couldn't weelie your rs250 then don't try it on your zx10r your likely to hurt yourself, i grew up on rd250lc's and spent hours on the back wheel, and on my arse when it all went wrong,
 

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the 2016 ZX10r has lift control built into traction control. So the lower intervention settings the traction is on, the higher the bike will allow the front tire to rise off the road. If you want to full 12 o clock wheelie, you will need to turn traction control off. And yes this bike can power wheelie 1-4 gears at correct speeds. The 2015+ R1 by comparison, has an independent lift control system. Thus, you can completely turn off lift control without touching traction control.
 

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Thanks that makes a lot of sense...

I guess turning the traction down to 1 and trying small power wheelies by modulating the throttle and having my foot on the rear break is a good starting point..

I just want to learn- not for being a muppet and showing off but more for myself- however being safe and careful is the most important.
 

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Anyone get their gen5 up on one wheel?
:lol:

If you can't get a 190hp bike up on one wheel without really trying, then you should just not worry about it. :wink:

With traction control on and you won't be able to modulate the throttle easily at all. That's not a good way to learn at all. The only reason to leave the traction control on would be to not worry about the throttle and just get used to the feeling of having the front wheel off the ground. But you really shouldn't be relying on that either. Turn it off and get used to modulating the throttle properly and start small. You aren't going to be riding out wheelies for a 1/4 mile the first time out of the chute.
 

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Anyone get their gen5 up on one wheel?


If you can't get a 190hp bike up on one wheel without really trying, then you should just not worry about it.


With traction control on and you won't be able to modulate the throttle easily at all. That's not a good way to learn at all. The only reason to leave the traction control on would be to not worry about the throttle and just get used to the feeling of having the front wheel off the ground. But you really shouldn't be relying on that either. Turn it off and get used to modulating the throttle properly and start small. You aren't going to be riding out wheelies for a 1/4 mile the first time out of the chute.

Thanks Sky

That's exactly what I wanted to know.... traction on or off. I haven't tried at all yet- will find a closed road and start small. I will be happy just getting the front wheel up a few inches!

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Anyone get their gen5 up on one wheel?
My GEN5 probably spends as much time on 1 wheel as it does 2. Yes, TC has to be turned completely off to get it up over about a foot. I wouldn't suggest practicing 1 wheel with TC on as an entry into full wheelies with no TC, you'll probably screw up from muscle memory. Take it in baby steps with TC off. My biggest peeve about the GEN5 is you cannot turn TC off while in motion, even with an ECU flash (unless something has changed recently). So, I am forced to ride the bike with TC off all the time. That's the first thing I do when I start the bike is turn TC off, because you never know when you're going to have to pull out a wheelie. :)
 

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It'll Wheelie quite well at Speed (over 100mph) on Track on TC 2
 

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I can report g4's fight power wheelies which is exactly as designed. But watch out if you have a bump or a stupid rock.
 

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Just push the gray button up until TC shows off. You have to be stopped to turn it completely off. Oh and regarding doing wheelies in TC mode 2, I wouldn't consider the front off the ground 2 inches a wheelie although I know "technically" it is. TC 2 might get you a couple of inches, TC1 maybe a foot, you have to have it completely off to do get it anywhere near the balance point.
 

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Coming out of the hairpin in my avatar at 60mph in 1st on trc1 I can tell you it gets to two feet but doesn't let it stay there and comes back down to 1 foot. Onlookers always say I am really good at power wheelies, sadly I cannot take any credit for them anymore :frown2: just pin the throttle and trust the system to handle it because it always does.
 

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That's not good for decent lap times. I used to race in TC2 just so the front couldn't get more than a couple inches off the ground but then I switched to TC1 and just did better throttle management. I turn the TC off for all non racing both on and off the track so I can have some actual fun. :) Of course I was slower than molasses this year for some reason so I just did more wheelies and less going fast to keep it fun. :)

 

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That's not good for decent lap times.[/IMG]
Oh I know but I make the trade of half a second for a little fun on the straight nearly every time. When I am on my 4th or 5th lap of a session when I am pushing very hard:)grin2:) I tend to not make that trade as those are my best laps.

 

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Oh I know but I make the trade of half a second for a little fun on the straight nearly every time. When I am on my 4th or 5th lap of a session when I am pushing very hard:)grin2:) I tend to not make that trade as those are my best laps.

What app is that? How does it work?
 
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