Use whatever floats your boat. Without using warmers your not using the tire anywhere near its potential so it's just a matter of what you'd like to use. All slicks should be used with warmers or you're wasting rubber.
Just git gudIf you're going to run slicks without warmers there is a chance you will be flirting with disaster. Slicks MUST operate at a certain temp to be effective. Tire warmers keep them at this temp when you leave the paddock. If you go out on cold slicks and "warm them up" through your pace there is the possibility that you'll push a bit too hard and loose grip. We've seen this happen COUNTLESS times. "Ill just take it easy for a couple laps and get some heat in the tires." You see them coming back on the crash truck.
Also something most people won't talk about is can your pace generate enough heat to keep the tires up to the proper operating temp? If a rider is not fast enough the slick will self destruct and cause other issues.
Best advise, work with your local track tire vendor and go off their suggestion.
When I got this bike recently it came w a few sets of wheels.Use whatever floats your boat. Without using warmers your not using the tire anywhere near its potential so it's just a matter of what you'd like to use. All slicks should be used with warmers or you're wasting rubber.
You end up wasting rubber because as was said earlier, slicks are meant to operate in a certain temperature range. Riding outside of that will cause premature wear (cold tearing).When I got this bike recently it came w a few sets of wheels.
One set were w slicks for the track days my friend did. So my last 2 track days felt real nice pushing hard on those things and no slips or anything like i got w my Q2's in past. Thats why I figured id buy the slicks again. But like i said i cant afford warmers presently but may get them. So IYO its not worth it without proper pre heating so to speak? I can try the Q3's, im a dunlop guy so I am quite unexperienced w other brands.
Why is it wasting rubber without warmers? educate me
Pirelli "Diablo Superbike Pro" slick is a "beginner slicks" for trackday people and Pirelli says they can be used without warmers. Having used a set of them myself (with warmers thou) I can say that they are cheaper and last longer than "real" slicks.Long story short , without warmers on 90 degreeplus days I had zero issues. But i dont want to have future issues if my season starts in cooler temps vs after memorial day.
Too bad they stopped making the Pros. Was a good endurance/trackday tire.Pirelli "Diablo Superbike Pro" slick is a "beginner slicks" for trackday people and Pirelli says they can be used without warmers. Having used a set of them myself (with warmers thou) I can say that they are cheaper and last longer than "real" slicks.
Slicks without warmers are hard like plastic and offer less grip than a street tyre.
I imagine using slicks without warmers only if ground is hot to touch with hand.
Other than that, it takes many-many laps to heat them up properly and on colder day you cannot bring them up to temperature (at least 170F for rear). If you can, then cold tear has destroyed much of your expensive item in progress.
+1 for warmers.
No, just straight up no. There's a reason why EVERY SINGLE RACER uses warmers and it's not because we have no confidence or enough "loop" experience.One lap and they're hot. The missing ingredient is confidence but that involves many variables.
Indeed, I asked my tyre supplier and he said Pirelli has now SC3, but it is not replacing PRO. It is cold whether and endurance tyre, but more inline with SC2 and needs warmers. However Metzeler CompK slick is pretty much same as Pirellis PRO.Too bad they stopped making the Pros. Was a good endurance/trackday tire.
You might be able to find some leftovers, but they have discontinued making them.Thanks for info fellas. I just read the shit out of some blogs etc on the Pros and they sound like the tire for me esp until warmers and gen are in the budget.
So they still sell them or no.? I will start seeking a source.
And as i read and said ,Im a lap or 2 always before i hammer down
just for safety.