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Living in Australia we get information about important issues pretty quick with social media and journalist!I remember Pat Tillmans story but the information we were fed was the trumped up bullshit that someone and many others massaged to entice new recruits into the armed forces!
TBH watching his parents,brother and wife pleading for honesty and in terrible pain made me feel sick!
I no all you guys in the U.S will have your views,feelings,knowledge on this topic but where/who does the buck stop with!a Silver Star in that short of time surely lies directly at the very top of the food chain doesn't it(?)
As a man I could not loose my integrity,honour knowing that my decision was based on a lie to entice young men/woman to sign up!
Now these are only my thoughts and opinions but fk me that last court case seen had me so angry I wanted to shout out!
"You bunch of lying fks"
 

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I looked into Pat's case but not deeply. If I recall the investigator found evidence that Pat was upset with policies coming down from up top and found evidence that death by friendly fire was intentional to shut him up as top brass felt that isolation of Pat using the typical recipes of ridicule, transfer, harassment, intimidation, etc., would NOT work in Pat's case but strengthen Pat's case. Lot of leg work has been done about Pat but sorry, can't remember the author of the book that I read awhile ago about this case.

We're ruled by the SAME paymaster that runs OZ, so pays to study our USA rulers and read between the lines and weasel out the guys that sort out the investigations during history and get the sense of our bureaucrats. Insane, everyone of them, bunch of disgusting careerists and blind gophers.
 

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Thanks Scout!just like Iraq,Libya,Syria and Afghanistan!
What a fked up scary world my children must indure!fact or fiction!Im so scared whats next!Theres a Country with more people,money and a armed forces that no one has a handle on.....
 

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Thanks Scout!just like Iraq,Libya,Syria and Afghanistan!
What a fked up scary world my children must indure!fact or fiction!Im so scared whats next!Theres a Country with more people,money and a armed forces that no one has a handle on.....
Don't worry but have to be rational in a top heavy crazy world. Remember, all of us regular people are solid, probably more so now that at anytime in history, which is curious. But the problem is that although everyone is solid, they are blind to the corp/political/military/Roman (!) social and political substructure driving the countries.

ok, right on about Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria plus Iran, Tunisia, Yemen, Somalia, etc, and all linked to 9/11.

To get a REAL sense of the psyche operation program that my gov does on citizens, YOU MUST READ THIS BOOK:

Dr. Judy Wood's, 'What Happened to the Towers.' What this most excellent American physicist did was simple detective leg work compiling a ton of photos and statements from both 9/11 victims and first responders. She did what the US government DID NOT WHAT DONE or ever released. No theories are presented by Judy, just gathered evidence from photos, seismic data, weather records, etc.

You will read it once then IMMEDIATELY read it again. The best book after the Bible, and I read a lot.

Amazon has it. I hope you can get it, if you can't let me know and I'll send you one directly.
 

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I will get it Scout!I think you have talked about that book before!
It's very important. Also, get this one from the library, re-read Orwell's 1984. George published this in 1949 and he based it upon what the US was doing with all the Nazi's the gov rescued, hired, and were calling the shots. Orwell was socialist/marxist and had insider contacts with international rulers up to the point of his research for the 1984 work. He was killed one year after this book was published. Rulers so hated him for revealing so much. Check wiki as they have good abstract of main points. Also, regular wikipedia banned Dr. Wood! Rulers so hate her but appear not able to kill her. idk if they've tried but they killed her top grade student and killed dr. Malhov. The former for helping Judy in a couple critical research areas and I suspect the kid had something else. idk. Malhov was killed for NOT supported MIT's (he was a prof there) smear of pons and the other guy about the directed energy/cold fusion experiments. Lotta stuff out there but have to know where to look.

Don't forget to search youtube for stuff and pay attention to what books a good researcher on youtube points out.
 

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I have plenty of time on my hands and will check out your advice thanks mate!
ok, I'll get an entire reading list complete with titles and authors. Some books might not be in your library but I was able to buy them cheap on ebay and sometimes Amazon.
 

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I'm just waiting on a phone call from the hospital!total knee replacement so 5-7 days in hospital and then a long recovery so if you give me your favourite and 😮 book would appreciate it cheers Pete
 

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I'm just waiting on a phone call from the hospital!total knee replacement so 5-7 days in hospital and then a long recovery so if you give me your favourite and 😮 book would appreciate it cheers Pete
Sorry to hear this and trust it goes well. I'll work on the list.
 

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I saved this list so if you lose it or if anyone that is interested in the list wants a copy, let me know.


I'm going to put these in a loose order of reading so that latter works somewhat build upon earlier but certainly ok to read in any order and I usually skip reading back and forth between two books, but do whatever is right for you.

What Happened to the Towers? Dr. Judy Wood


None Dare Call It Conspiracy Gary Allen

The Empire of the City KC Knuth

America's Secret Establishment Antony Sutton

Behold a Pale Horse William Cooper

Holy Blood Holy Grail Michael Baigent

Jesuits: Society of Jesus Martin Malachi

Forbidden Truth JeanCharles Brisard & Grillanume Dasquie

Civilian Warriors: Blackwater Eric Prince

Blackwater: Rise of Powerful Mercs Jeremy Scahill

Lost Victories of the Stonewall Jackson Alex Bevin

Secrets of the Temple: Fed Reserve William Greider

The Provincial Letters Science Pascal Blaise

An Age of Conflict Leslie Derfler

Factories in the Fields: Carey McWilliams

Out of the Depths: Sinking Indianapolis Edgar Harrell

Hitlers Traitor Louis Kilzer

Echo From Daley Plaza Abraham Bolden

The Lusitania Colin Simpson

Colonel Roosevelt Edmund Morris

Behind the Dictators Dr. L.A. Lehman

Mark of the Beast E.G.White

The Deadly Deception Jim Shaw

50 Years in the Church of Rome Charles Chiniquy

Beyond the Barrier Eugene Rodgers

Romes Responsibility for Assassination of Lincoln Thomas m. Harris, Brig. General

Imminent Dangers to US Through Immigration Samuel FB Morse

Roman Catholiscism Loraine Boettner

La Popessa Paul I. Murphy

The Complete Books of Charles Fort Charles Fort

Naked Earth: new geophysics Shawna Vogel

Romanism Father Crowley
 

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What a list!Ive been a little suss regarding the latest suicide bomber in Turkey being Isis deadshits!Im thinking it was set up so a superpower could use Turkish airfields and also bringing Turkey into the conflict full on!thats what I would do.
 

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What a list!Ive been a little suss regarding the latest suicide bomber in Turkey being Isis deadshits!Im thinking it was set up so a superpower could use Turkish airfields and also bringing Turkey into the conflict full on!thats what I would do.
I see you thinking. Turkey is in the middle of everything but one variable that must be factored into the Turkey equation is Israel. They're allied. Israel and Turks hate Shia, and Kurds are Shia.

Isis are Sunni and Rome loves Sunni. If Rome loves sunni then so does DC and London. lol

The media is the fourth branch of government. And media practices psychological operations upon their own citizens, meaning lies and deception are guiding perceptions.

So when DC gave Turk go ahead to hit Issi, the real target was Kurds, then the media reports the lie that DC is upset about all the Kurd hits.

Above frames out the problem but superficially. The gulag dorks that rule us are stupid and psychotic but also have a sense of history and combine this with power, very dangerous for us normals.

Anyway, the Turks were involved with the Balfour contract setting up Israel. Balfour was part of the group of UK dorks that bamboozled Wilson to rope us into the WWI disaster. My point is this tiny piece of history is to show the DEPTH of history and how the dorks of the dead past influence us today and suggest that the dorks that rule us today are laying the future for the kids.

The above list is only intro material. I have an extensive list when you complete the above beginner list. This book, in the above list, An Age of Conflict Leslie Derfler, is in the second list. Derfler researched several writers and lifted their material to compare ideologies. Kinda hard to sort out ideologies UNLESS you have a picture of what the fuck they're talking about. lol. So, why the beginner list is needed to set up the next level of reading.

The entire process will be interesting. Embrace each word. No such thing as 'speed reading.' Trust me.
 

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Scout if you lived in Australia I would luv to have a few beers with you and have a long chat!Ive allways been a believer in the quote "theres more than meets the eye"quick question!was there a 223 (5.56)projectile found in JFKs head wound!not the same caliber as Oswalds Concarno!cheers Pete
 

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Dr. Judy Wood's, 'What Happened to the Towers.' What this most excellent American physicist did was simple detective leg work compiling a ton of photos and statements from both 9/11 victims and first responders. She did what the US government DID NOT WHAT DONE or ever released. No theories are presented by Judy, just gathered evidence from photos, seismic data, weather records, etc.

You will read it once then IMMEDIATELY read it again. The best book after the Bible, and I read a lot.
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I worked for defense contractors my whole life. Have talked to people. We have a weapon in space and also laser from ground for satellites and such, Electromagnetic Spectrum, understand it, control it, harness it's energy, and direct it, also ability to sense it, break down and understand what you have detected, and you've got the world by the "short hairs". Finished, done, complete.
 

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I worked for defense contractors my whole life. Have talked to people. We have a weapon in space and also laser from ground for satellites and such, Electromagnetic Spectrum, understand it, control it, harness it's energy, and direct it, also ability to sense it, break down and understand what you have detected, and you've got the world by the "short hairs". Finished, done, complete.
You ABSOLUTELY have to buy Dr. Judy Wood's book. Go the her link above as amazon is now overcharging. Anyway, she has the photos FRAMING exactly what happened to all seven WTC buildings. They were DUSTED. Turned into dust and the wind blew the dust around. Nothing underground was touched and a couple stories near ground level were ripped apart but NOT much was trucked out but a lot of dirt was brought in as one of the weapon's effects KEPT WORKING for months! Surreal.

Get the book. Judy as no idea were the weapon was located but you have to see the photos and the testimonials of first responders dodging the jumpers coming outta of the towers just before they were dusted. A bunch more that you have to read.
 

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Scout if you lived in Australia I would luv to have a few beers with you and have a long chat!Ive allways been a believer in the quote "theres more than meets the eye"quick question!was there a 223 (5.56)projectile found in JFKs head wound!not the same caliber as Oswalds Concarno!cheers Pete
Check this out: I just completed one of the books in the above list, Behold a Pale Rider, by Bill Cooper.

He was in US naval Intel and had a ton of clearance. In the book he said that JFK was killed and all covered up by highers. But the killers had JFK's death recorded and he saw the tape. Bill said that all the films out there that show JFK's death were deceptive, but ONE film is the truth. Bill said that the original film is noted because you can see the killer's face, the secret service driver, turn with anger on his face and with left hand unload rounds into JFK's hear. Jackie saw all this and that's why she tried to bail out the back. She MUST have knew this was gonna happen to JFK cause she listened to the follow up secret service agent and turned back.

OK. Not over yet here. So I read JFK's account made by Cooper. The thought passed my mind that the tape might me on youtube.

IT WAS!

I posted it HERE on this site in this category and many saw the film. I'll find the link later. BUT, the original film was changed after about one week. The film that I linked was changed to one of the deceptive films. Surreal! Some of the rulers have hired dorks to mine the net to keep crap away from them.

Here's the link I posted here awhile back:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-LA0ypFXig

Again, everyone: this is NOT the original tape that Bill saw and is still out there somewhere. The original film was on the tube for awhile but disappeared. It IS out there. you will know the original by the exact clearness of the killer's face FULL OF ANGER. Also, the killer was NOT Secret Service agent Geer as I saw a video of Geer when he was defending himself years later. NOT THE SAME MAN. I suspect the driver and the following 'agent' were mob killers. Secret Service were all in on the killing but they didn't trust their own to do the assassination. Figures.
 

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You ABSOLUTELY have to buy Dr. Judy Wood's book. Go the her link above as amazon is now overcharging. Anyway, she has the photos FRAMING exactly what happened to all seven WTC buildings. They were DUSTED. Turned into dust and the wind blew the dust around. Nothing underground was touched and a couple stories near ground level were ripped apart but NOT much was trucked out but a lot of dirt was brought in as one of the weapon's effects KEPT WORKING for months! Surreal.

Get the book. Judy as no idea were the weapon was located but you have to see the photos and the testimonials of first responders dodging the jumpers coming outta of the towers just before they were dusted. A bunch more that you have to read.
She never will find "weapon", you had to look up, way up. Seen it all, photos, videos, first hand accounts from Engineers that were there on scene. Pics were taken, samples were taken. Directed "energy" of a certain "wave length" can do incredible things when focused/concentrated.
 

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She never will find "weapon", you had to look up, way up. Seen it all, photos, videos, first hand accounts from Engineers that were there on scene. Pics were taken, samples were taken. Directed "energy" of a certain "wave length" can do incredible things when focused/concentrated.
If you saw all the photos of how those towers and other buildings were dusted then you certainly know the power. what's terrifying is the psych deceptive power of the rulers with their media servants. Until everyone stands up for justice these guys will do anything at anytime and get away with it.

Also, suspect that the Oklahoma city disaster was a directed energy run up. Study first responder photos of Okla and compare. Same thing happened in Okla as the other five WTC buildings.

OK. So why the federal building and WTC buildings? I suspect, no evidence, but these dorks don't pick on friends, they cut throats of enemies. The probably is high of political enemies were killed in both disasters, among other reasons, like launching wars in Iraq, afghan, and they wanted Iran to fold. Psych testing of Americans is right up there. Right now these criminals are running high.
 
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