Standing Mile

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C3L1CA

Discussion Starter · Jun 22, 2016

Have any of you guys done the standing mile before on your zx10s? Anybody ever broke 200mph on one?

I was thinking about trying to get out and do a standing mile race either this year but will probably next year just because of wanting to be prepared and what not.

I'd be racing my gen4 zx10. For useful mods it currently has:

Brock's Slip On
BMC Race Filter
Woolich
Quick Shifter
Opened up Ram Air Duct
Gold Heat Reflective Tape on the gas tank and airbox
Brocks Clutch Mod
Brocks heavy duty springs with 3 of the super heavy duty springs from Cycle Concepts
Cycle Concepts drag clutch
Ballistic lightweight battery
Penske drag shock
Catalyst Carbon Fiber Drag Seat (helps sit lower so I would assume I would tuck better with this vs the stock one)
Aluminum sprocket nuts with aluminum sprocket up front and a 520 chain
Double Bubble windscreen
Yoshi mirror block offs
Front is lowered and rear is lowered

It currently has a stretch of about 11" on it but figure it would do better stock wheel base because it would't have to lug around as much chain. The swing arm is adjustable for as 8" over. Any thoughts on what would be the best setup to use?

Bike weighs in at 395 at the scales at Brainerd International Raceway, I would guess closer to 390 swb. I would be around 205 suited, maybe 195 if I really cut some weight.

Bike made 175.9 hp on 87 pump gas, 525 chain, 11" stretch. I would hope it would be low to mid 180s stock wheelbase on mr12.

Would that be good enough to hit that magically 200mph mark in the standing mile with the right gearing? Is there anything else I could try and do to guarantee that 200mph slip?

Thanks in advance for the replys :thumbsup:

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SkyDork

· #2 · Jun 22, 2016

I did the MileMarker1 event several years ago on a turbo ZX-14 pushing about 225hp (low boost). Managed to hit about 194mph on the GPS.

Considering the ZX-10 is only geared to hit about 190mph in theory, the fact that you're running a longer wheelbase with a longer chain that will rob the horsepower, I'm betting you'll be in the 180mph range at the gates. It takes A LOT more than just bolt-ons to hit 200mph, let alone in just a mile. The Aero is what kills it for most bikes and you need way more power to overcome the drag. So you have a nice goal, but the reality is you won't come close to the big 2-0-0 number.

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SkyDork

· #3 · Jun 22, 2016

It's still a hoot to get the bike down the strip like that and holding it wide open for so long!

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C3L1CA

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jun 22, 2016

I was most likely going to swap back to the stock swingarm to get away from the longer chain robbing hp/speed on the top end. I wasn't sure what would best so figured I would ask incase somebody with experience said the stretch might be the better option. I'd be willing to run whatever gearing needed to just crack that 200mph mark, haven't done a ton of research on what gearing would work, but Brock did post up what they used.

Looks like the Gadson's did with a basic bolt on gen 4:
Brocks Performance: Rickey and Richard Gadson Set Land Speed Records on 2011 ZX-10Rs

I know the Gadson's are pro riders but the one bike doesn't have any more mods than I do.

These guys hit the limiter at 186 with same basic bolt items but still feel like they had more left in it.
2011 Kawasaki ZX-10R At The Mojave Mile | Flat Out | Super Streetbike

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SkyDork

· #5 · Jun 22, 2016

C3L1CA said:
I was most likely going to swap back to the stock swingarm to get away from the longer chain robbing hp/speed on the top end. I wasn't sure what would best so figured I would ask incase somebody with experience said the stretch might be the better option. I'd be willing to run whatever gearing needed to just crack that 200mph mark, haven't done a ton of research on what gearing would work, but Brock did post up what they used.

Looks like the Gadson's did with a basic bolt on gen 4:
Brocks Performance: Rickey and Richard Gadson Set Land Speed Records on 2011 ZX-10Rs

I know the Gadson's are pro riders but the one bike doesn't have any more mods than I do.

These guys hit the limiter at 186 with same basic bolt items but still feel like they had more left in it.
2011 Kawasaki ZX-10R At The Mojave Mile | Flat Out | Super Streetbike

Yes, but there's a difference. Those are Land Speed events. They can take however long they need to get up to speed. You're only going to have a mile to do it. And if you gear it taller to hit 200mph, then it will kill your acceleration. If you had 2 or 3 miles of time to get it up to 200mph, you can probably do it, but not in such a short distance.

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C3L1CA

Discussion Starter · #6 · Jun 22, 2016 (Edited)

SkyDork said:
Yes, but there's a difference. Those are Land Speed events. They can take however long they need to get up to speed. You're only going to have a mile to do it. And if you gear it taller to hit 200mph, then it will kill your acceleration. If you had 2 or 3 miles of time to get it up to 200mph, you can probably do it, but not in such a short distance.

Looking more into the Gadson's 200 mph runs were done in 1.5 miles instead of the 1 mile. I would think that extra .5 makes a world of difference and goes by quick. Might look into the 1.5 mile runs to try and give myself a better chance of crossing off that 200mph bucket list line.

bun1t

· #7 · Jun 22, 2016

For what it's worth, I did a GPS verified 193mph with a flash, filter, slip on and +1 front sprocket. I don't know what distance but I know that with the +1 on the front it revved SLOW and took forever. I ran out of room but I believe the bike had more in it.

I would try to find a bigger stretch if you want to hit 200.

THE ICE MAN

· #8 · Sep 14, 2016

C3L1CA

It can be done I set up a 2006 ZX10 our stage 1 Head Work, Real World Tune, aero package.

Ace Performance 2006 ZX10 went 197.7 and a 203.192 MPH on motor with pump gas at Maxton Mile in N.C. ECTA event
back in October 2006.

There are a few guys here doing 199 - 200 mph in 9/10ths of a mile but they are fly weights 130 - 135 lbs

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THE ICE MAN

· #9 · Sep 14, 2016

SkyDork said:
It's still a hoot to get the bike down the strip like that and holding it wide open for so long!

I was at the Miami Mile same weekend as you
I was racing our 2001 ZX12R going 211.2 MPH
Also runing a few other bikes

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THE ICE MAN

· #10 · Sep 14, 2016

I am currently going over 200 + MPH in under 1 mile on my customers 2016 ZX10R
That I set up for him.

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SpazOnaZX

· #11 · Sep 14, 2016 (Edited)

Holy shit, it's the Ice Man.... your bikes were hauling ass out at the mile man... rare to see a 1000cc production NA bike going that fast! Did that bike ever make it down a drag strip? I'm reeeeaal curious what its trap speed would look like.

SpazOnaZX

· #12 · Sep 14, 2016 (Edited)

Aero is huge upwards of 130mph. FWIW, I've datalogged 200mph with no fairing in a little less than 5000 feet.... but it took about 11psi to get there. :badteeth: I remember Cooter metioning that just lowering the bike was worth several MPH in the half mile events.... in a mile it would be even more apparent.

THE ICE MAN

· #13 · Sep 15, 2016

SpazOnaZX said:
Holy shit, it's the Ice Man.... your bikes were hauling ass out at the mile man... rare to see a 1000cc production NA bike going that fast! Did that bike ever make it down a drag strip? I'm reeeeaal curious what its trap speed would look like.

Spaz,
Thanks, No have not been down the 1/4 mile.
This 2016 ZX10R is extremely fast when properly Tuned and setup
correctly.
Sal.

C3L1CA

Discussion Starter · #14 · Sep 15, 2016

THE ICE MAN said:
C3L1CA

It can be done I set up a 2006 ZX10 our stage 1 Head Work, Real World Tune, aero package.

Ace Performance 2006 ZX10 went 197.7 and a 203.192 MPH on motor with pump gas at Maxton Mile in N.C. ECTA event
back in October 2006.

There are a few guys here doing 199 - 200 mph in 9/10ths of a mile but they are fly weights 130 - 135 lbs

That's awesome to hear :grin2: What kind of aero mods did you do to it? That is if you don't mind me asking and are willing to share.

Poking around your site the head work doesn't seem too bad at all and heard head work really helps wake up the bike. Wish I could afford a whole top of the line engine package but with my wedding coming up I know the fiancée wouldn't approve of a purchase that big anytime soon. Joys of life :crackup:

THE ICE MAN said:
I am currently going over 200 + MPH in under 1 mile on my customers 2016 ZX10R
That I set up for him.

Those new ZX10's look pretty nasty from the little I've looked at them. I try not to look because I know I'll get sad and my gen 4 has a special place in my heart, first bike I've ever taken a big trip on (7,500+ miles) and first bike to run 8s in the 1/4. Hopefully first bike to hit 200mph on too!

THE ICE MAN

· #15 · Sep 15, 2016

The Aero mods were a cut down gas tank and a gen 1 Hayabusa
front fender.

Forgot to mention we also had a kit intake camshaft for the gen 2
2006 ZX10

Running in the 8's that is quick !

mpp12

· #16 · Sep 15, 2016

hopping you get good results

rafa

· #17 · Oct 13, 2016

I just did a 1/2 mile event not too long ago. Bike has similar mods as yours.
Mid 170s is what I got. Dont know how much more it would have.

1/4 mile trap speeds for me are Mid 140s.

C3L1CA

Discussion Starter · #18 · Oct 13, 2016

THE ICE MAN said:
The Aero mods were a cut down gas tank and a gen 1 Hayabusa
front fender.

Forgot to mention we also had a kit intake camshaft for the gen 2
2006 ZX10

Running in the 8's that is quick !

I was thinking of getting a busa front fender, hopefully it'll just bolt up. Might have to look into it more.

mpp12 said:
hopping you get good results

Thank you sir!

rafa said:
I just did a 1/2 mile event not too long ago. Bike has similar mods as yours.
Mid 170s is what I got. Dont know how much more it would have.

1/4 mile trap speeds for me are Mid 140s.

Did you have a thread on the 1/2 event? I think I was reading your thread if you did.

I might try to do a mile event before going out east for the 1.5 mile. The Ohio mile is a hell of a lot closer than the 1.5 mile even out in Maine.

This past weekend in good october air my bike went 8.8's a handful of times with traps always in 152. It did have a highest trap of almost 154 early in the morning with even better air. This was on pump gas, think it'd pick up 2-3 mph on some mr12 which I'd run for the standing mile stuff. This was on an extended swing arm though and I think I'd run a stock swing arm for the mile stuff. I couldn't get out of the hole like I'm used to swb but maybe get more top end over a mile.

I hit my goal of 8's on pump gas last weekend so I really, really want to do 200mph now. I'll try and save a bit of money over the winter, get the bike to the tech requirements and do a few mods to try and make sure I hit that 200mph goal at some point.

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C3L1CA

Discussion Starter · #19 · Nov 4, 2016

Do you guys think the bike would benefit from getting a set of track plastics? I saw a good deal on a set of hotbodies and was thinking about pulling the trigger.

From my research it should save 5-10lbs it seems and think having the belly pan on the bottom would help as well. I'm not a pro but curious if others that have more experience would think it was a worth while purchase.

SpazOnaZX

· #20 · Nov 4, 2016

I bought them for my turbo bike, if that's any indication on how I feel about it.

In all seriousness, aero is the name of the game after you're a 1/4 mile out.... ANYTHING you can do to reduce drag is going to play a more and more critical part in going faster at +150mph speeds than what you can reasonably do with power. The light weight is a nice bonus, but I'd rather add 10lbs and reduce the Coefficient of Drag (CoD) if at all possible. A practical example would be the 'ol original haybus... even being nearly 100lbs heavier AND down on power to the first few generations of ZX10R, they would actually start to lock (and reel in) the supersports once speeds got over 150... in stock trim no less.... I swear wouldn't believe it until I was the guy doing it.

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