Why are they at least one week behind schedule on showing AMA Racing on there channel , and why aren't they showing at least this week Mat Mladin's final race of his career ? Hellp me understand the madness !!!!!!!:bs:
Aww, man, I am sorry, i came off kinda pissy I was having a bad night, did not mean to take it out on you. I am not debating your speed, your probably one of the fastest dudes on the site( if not the fastest), I got no problem with Eslick either, some of us die hard race fans are just a little disgusted with the state of AMA racing these days. Yeah the racing may have been closer,but Who's noticing?My friend I have wont 4 titles on different bikes and that being said, and like I have said, if you don't think Danny is fast RACE HIS ASS! if you win talk shit if you don’t..........well........ ya know!
Hey I agree, eslick is fast. He wasn't as fast last year or any year on equal equipment, so...:dontknow: Anyway, I never blamed him or buell for that matter, they are playing by dmg's rules, unfair as they are. As for superbike and close racing, as I've stated before, slow the bikes down enough and it will create closer racing. Put them on scooters and the whole field will be in contention for a win. It is a shame, as an avid race fan and a technical gearhead, that they had to neuter American roadracing's most cutting edge motorcycles to accomplish close racing, and in the process, losing the best superbike rider the series has probably ever seen. I'd much rather the other manufacturers and riders step up their game rather lower the bar for them. Back to the original topic, speed's coverage is pretty lame, who really gives a crap about the moto-st recap and highlights, and who wants to stay up till 1:30am or risk tivo missing race? I'll never forgo watching wsbk racing for ama or motgp. WSBK is close AND it has a fair rules package.Aww, mand, I am sorry, i came off kinda pissy I was having a bad night, did nto mean to take it out on you. I am not debating your speed, your probably one of the fastest dueds on the site( if not the fastest), I got no problem with Eslick either, some of us die hard race fans are just a little disgusted with the state of AMA racingthese days. Yeah the racing may have been closer,but Who's noticing?
Have a good day man, and sorry for venting on you. ccasion1
Where does it say you can do all this extra stuff to the 4-cylinders?jake318 said:9R-10R before you condem the Daytona series just remember that the 1125 is only allowed to change the ECU and the pipe. Where as the 600cc bikes are alowed to do internal engine modifications and the 4cyl vs twin inherant design advantage. ( people have forgoten this since Ducati has been successful in racing , BUT , It took a long time to do so .) Secondly even though the 1125 might be a great handling liter bike . A 600cc bike handles alot better because of is smaller size . At the tight backsection at Millville you could see the Buells and Aprillas fighting the weight through the corners compared to the smaller lighter 600s...
"What would we do to make things more equal? Air restrictors on the Buell to keep the HP down, or even more weight than currently outlined could possibly slow it down. But maybe we are focusing too much on restricting the Buell instead of empowering the others. I say allow the 600s to user lighter aftermarket wheels to aid in acceleration and fickability. This would help close the gap while still not adding excessive costs. As for the Aprilia, from our view this could be the toughest fix. I think if the KWS team were able to get the bike's weight down it could be competitive as is, but this is an issue that stems from the stock RSV1000R, not a DMG rule issue, and would take large piles of cash to achieve. Hence, I say allow the Aprilia 1mm overbore to give them slightly more displacement and some much-needed power (this would be cost effective as well), and then make them adhere to the same minimum weight as the Buell. Sounds complicated, I know, but what do you expect when they think 1000cc-plus V-Twins should race against 600s?"ZX10Rracer said:Jake, I have beat this point to death! My 1125R with race ecu and slip-on is in the low 122 HP range and is 408 LBS with 1/2 tank of gas My friends 2008 R6 is 112Hp and is 368LBS with same amount of fuel! Most people will beat up on the 1125 for little reason other then the fact it's a Buell, and will one then turn on the RSV once you bring it up as racing in the same class! this is a lose lose battle!
But the Buell cool aid tastes good! it's kinda a grapeish flavor!Where does it say you can do all this extra stuff to the 4-cylinders?
http://www.amaproracing.com/assets/RR_Rules_2009.pdf
And as far as the handling goes, according to most who have tested both say the buell changes direction and corners better than the 4-cylinders. Especially since the buell can use mag wheels and other mods the 4-cylinders can't because it's not something the japanese factories make.
"What would we do to make things more equal? Air restrictors on the Buell to keep the HP down, or even more weight than currently outlined could possibly slow it down. But maybe we are focusing too much on restricting the Buell instead of empowering the others. I say allow the 600s to user lighter aftermarket wheels to aid in acceleration and fickability. This would help close the gap while still not adding excessive costs. As for the Aprilia, from our view this could be the toughest fix. I think if the KWS team were able to get the bike's weight down it could be competitive as is, but this is an issue that stems from the stock RSV1000R, not a DMG rule issue, and would take large piles of cash to achieve. Hence, I say allow the Aprilia 1mm overbore to give them slightly more displacement and some much-needed power (this would be cost effective as well), and then make them adhere to the same minimum weight as the Buell. Sounds complicated, I know, but what do you expect when they think 1000cc-plus V-Twins should race against 600s?"
You two need to stop drinking the buell/dmg kool-aid. The quote above from motorcycle-usa.com is just one of the MANY examples of how the majority of people feel about the rules. Like was mentioned before, buell took the rules and won with them. But like was also mentioned, eslick and other guys on buells never did as well in the past as they did this year.