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Ok, real simple, Computers/Laptops are hardwired and wirelessly connected to the router. I want a password screen to pop up when i click on a shared drive. So if i am on the laptop and want to access my main computer shared drive, i need to insert a password before i am allowed any kind of access, vice versa. I tried cnet.com for a free deal, its all like 30day trial. Anything free out there or something i am not seeing in the WinXP setup? Nothing more complicated than just a password prompt.
 

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everything you need is built into Windows. Go to the folder you want, tools, folder options, veiw tab, uncheck "use simple file sharing".

next create a local user acct, then creat the share only giving that use permissions to the share.

map the drive from the remote computer (hardwired or wireless make no difference). the login will be pcname\username and the the password.

It's all spelled out in the handy dandy "Help and Support" in your Start menu
 

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I need to do this one of these days, network both my hardwired desktop and my wireless laptop.

If you dont mind Miykl I may pm you and see if you can give me some quick advice...
 

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Don't forget that in Windows you have to set two levels of permissions. There's the share level which Mikyl talks about and then there's file level permissions.
 

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Don't forget that in Windows you have to set two levels of permissions. There's the share level which Mikyl talks about and then there's file level permissions.
no file level if fat32. Only share and folder. Need to be ntfs for file level. Then you have share, folder, and file level. next step... create an active directory domain.. :mrgreen:
 

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I need to do this one of these days, network both my hardwired desktop and my wireless laptop.

If you dont mind Miykl I may pm you and see if you can give me some quick advice...
PM away... won't promise good advise, but I'll tell ya something! :badteeth:
 

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no file level if fat32. Only share and folder. Need to be ntfs for file level. Then you have share, folder, and file level. next step... create an active directory domain.. :mrgreen:
Yeah, I made the assumption that everyone uses NTFS. If there isn't a compelling reason for someone to stay on FAT32, then they should be on NTFS anyways. Not only for security but just the basic file system is so much better with NTFS.
 

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Yeah, I made the assumption that everyone uses NTFS. If there isn't a compelling reason for someone to stay on FAT32, then they should be on NTFS anyways. Not only for security but just the basic file system is so much better with NTFS.
are consumer machines shipping ntfs now? Last I looked the default was fat32 and ntfs had to be selected. It's been forever since i quoted out a personal machine for someone. Personally I NEVER keep the factor build. Always blow it away and start with a clean install. ...even with my work laptop... they thought they were slick with their BS monitoring software. join the domain? Never!! hahahahahahah :badteeth:
 

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Having bought two new laptops recently, it's a mix. The Dell comes with a few partitions on their factory install. One is a FAT partition for their diagnostic tools, the other is for their Media Direct program on a FAT partition, a recovery partition on FAT, and lastly the actual OS partition which is NTFS.

The Acer I got had two partitions both were FAT which I thought was pretty ridiculous.

But like you've said, I alway do a fresh install to get rid of the bloatware. In the case of the Acer, the reinstall removed a security issue that was present with the factory install. An active X file would have allowed someone with a malicious website to launch stuff on your desktop without needing admin access.
 

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Guys, don't forget that you have to go into the Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Local Security Policy, expand "Local Policies" and then on "Security Options". In the right-hand pane you'll find a bunch of settings. You have to change the one called "Network access: Sharing and security model for local accounts". Double click this entry and change it from "Guest only..." to "Classic - local users...". I can send you some screenshots if you need.
-Larry
 

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The Acer I got had two partitions both were FAT which I thought was pretty ridiculous.

But like you've said, I alway do a fresh install to get rid of the bloatware. In the case of the Acer, the reinstall removed a security issue that was present with the factory install. An active X file would have allowed someone with a malicious website to launch stuff on your desktop without needing admin access.
you can also convert a fat 32 partition to ntfs (stolen straight from the "Help"...I swear by that and MS knowledge base)

To convert a volume to NTFS from the command prompt
  1. Open the Command Prompt window.
  2. In the command prompt window, type convert drive_letter: /fs:ntfs
    For example, typing convert D: /fs:ntfs would format drive D: with the ntfs format.
Notes
  • To open a command prompt, click Start, point to All Programs, point to Accessories, and then click Command Prompt.
  • You can convert FAT or FAT32 volumes to NTFS with this command.
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you can also convert a fat 32 partition to ntfs (stolen straight from the "Help"...I swear by that and MS knowledge base)

To convert a volume to NTFS from the command prompt
  1. Open the Command Prompt window.
  2. In the command prompt window, type convert drive_letter: /fs:ntfs
    For example, typing convert D: /fs:ntfs would format drive D: with the ntfs format.
Notes
  • To open a command prompt, click Start, point to All Programs, point to Accessories, and then click Command Prompt.
  • You can convert FAT or FAT32 volumes to NTFS with this command.
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Yep, I know about the convert command. But the problem comes when the convert command has unintended consequences towards disk performance. People have reported where doing the convert command created a partition which uses a large cluster size of 512KB instead of the standard 4KB. Also, many of the partitions set up by the manufacturer do really require FAT. For Dell, FAT is required for the Diagnostics partition and the Media Direct partitions. Now with the restore partitions, I don't understand why they would use FAT when imaging software like Ghost can read NTFS partitions with no problem.
 

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Guys, don't forget that you have to go into the Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Local Security Policy, expand "Local Policies" and then on "Security Options". In the right-hand pane you'll find a bunch of settings. You have to change the one called "Network access: Sharing and security model for local accounts". Double click this entry and change it from "Guest only..." to "Classic - local users...". I can send you some screenshots if you need.
-Larry
Hmmm....never had to do that. Just unchecking the simple file sharing option was enough to give me all the options I needed for share and file level security.
 

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know about the diagnostics partition. curious about the Media Direct and why it would need Fat32...
From what I've researched, Media Direct uses the diagnostics partition to boot off of. The partition is actually hidden for Media Direct which is interesting. Can't recall if the actual hidden partition for Media Direct was FAT or NTFS. There's a specific procedure and what you need to keep if you want to preserve the Media Direct functionality.
 

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you're talking MS Media Connect right? I use it with no issues, no fat partitions. Well did use it. I like Neros implimentation better.
 

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you're talking MS Media Connect right? I use it with no issues, no fat partitions. Well did use it. I like Neros implimentation better.
Don't think we're talking about the same thing. It's Dell's feature where you can run a "thin client" version of Win XP. There's a button on my E1505 laptop where I can launch a bare minimum Windows OS to play music, DVDs, or display pictures. With the laptop powered off, I just push the Media Direct button and the laptop loads the Media Direct software and puts me into an environment very similar to the Media Center GUI.
 

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My Toshiba laptop cam NTFS, my desktop was always FAT32 until I finally tok one of my friends advice and changed it over to NTFS.
 

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Don't think we're talking about the same thing. It's Dell's feature where you can run a "thin client" version of Win XP. There's a button on my E1505 laptop where I can launch a bare minimum Windows OS to play music, DVDs, or display pictures. With the laptop powered off, I just push the Media Direct button and the laptop loads the Media Direct software and puts me into an environment very similar to the Media Center GUI.
most defiantely different. What i'm referrring to allows you to stream your photos/videos/music to a network attached device. In my case a DLink MediaLounge.
 

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Ok, i'll try that in a bit miykl, thanks.

my other quesiton is this, my gateway laptop is my first store bought machine and 6gb is partitioned in d: for their backup crap. i used the reinstall disk and wasn't given an option if i wanted that done or not, so it redid the clean install and the same d: drive. i tried like a partition removing tool to no avail. any advice? i "have" winxp pro, but the code is well lets say not from ms per say. but the laptop has winxp home. any idea's on how to rid that damn partition and give me back my 6gb.
 
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