Well, in my ongoing process of learning all the ins and outs of my ZX, I decided to pull out the seat, if only to see how it comes out. Also, you need to pull the seat to get at the battery. Question is: what type and size bit to pull the mounting bolts. Had no problem getting the passenger seat out, and the 4 bolts holding the frame down. But when I tried to pull the rider's seat bolts, nothing would fit. A couple did, but as soon as I tried turning, they basically stripped. I think whoever put the seat in last tightened it so much he stripped the bolts. But if I knew the exact bit, maybe I could still make it work.