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Ok so as many of u know im supposed to be getting married in 2wks, well a while back when i was picking my groomsmen her parents wanted me to have their son as a groomsmen. Him and I however have never been close or really cared for each other, and I was always under the impression that a mans groomsmen are his go to guys, the best of the best if u will. Brent however is not even close to that, but doing them a favor i reluctantly agreed.

fast forward to yesterday. Im at the office and i walk by the secretarys desk and see a post it on some eviction letters from him. I asked her what are these? she tells me that theyre brents and he said to put them out. Well I actually dont work for brent, but I do for his dad, doin his collections an evictions. I txt brent thinking hed left and told him that he couldve asked me to put out his notes because i dont work for him. Im more than happy to help him out if he asks, but dont just assume ill do his work as well. I did not mean this an a rude way, but he ended up being off to the side of the building and i didnt know that when i sent the txt.

He comes up to me and says what are u talking about and i told him that if he wants me to do his stuff just ask, but dont just assume ill do ur work too when i dont work for u. he then started to raise his voice at me saying that he is the boss of me and that I have to do whatever he says. I remin him that I dont work for him. He starts yelling at me saying that bec his dad owes him money that he can tell me what to do as a sort of repayment. I remind him again that I dont work for him but if he would like me to do things for him all he has to do is ask. Now he starts telling me to get the fuck off the property and to never come back, then proceeded to shove me off the porch. i looked him in the eyes and told him he was being an ass, without raising my voice, just in sort of a wtf is going on with u kind of way. he continues to yell at me, to which i reply if ur going to act like this then u can stay home on the 5th.

This is where he tells me thats fine bec im a piece of shit and a loser and he never wanted to be in the wedding as well as he never wanted us to get married. Once he said that I was standing by the truck still in the wtf is wrong with u mind state but told him he was really being a douche bag, again never raised my voice just telling him hes acting like a douche bag.

I was standing inside the truck door when id said this bec I wasnt planning on fighting him, because his sister (my fiance) was standing their screaming and i wasnt going to do that infront of her. He came down and decided to slam the door into my chest so at this point im starting to lose my cool and took my half full NOS drink and chunk it into his face. He comes at me and tries to put his hands on me but i grabbed his arms and started walking him backwards if u will, but before anything else happened, Jake split us up, and instead of doing the ur lucky hes here crap i start tending to my fiance trying to calm her down. well we both leave

Now I go to her parents house bec they want to speak to me and start defending brent and i keep shutting down every attempt they make with facts an logic. I tell her mom hes out of the wedding bec he said he never wanted us to get married, and she says, "yea he was against yall getting married." I tell her then y the hell would anybody want somebody that doesnt suppport our marriage to have a role in the wedding of the ppl that during the ceremony take an oath to do whatever it takes to keep our marraige strong.

She had nothing to say other than I stilll think u should have him in the wedding, and im not paying for a wedding if hes not in it, which got under my skin but i didnt freak but i did tell her then there wont be a wedding bec hes not in it.

Now onto today...I go to work and do what im supposed to do just like normal, and I go home and start doing my homework and her dad calls me and asks if Id found another person to take his place? I said yes, Matt (who was my original pick) I could her her mom fussing in the background and her dad starts telling me that Brent wants to apologize and if i sit down and listen to him talk ill change my mind about kicking him out...I told him thats stupid as shit, and reiterate the thing about the wedding party should be ppl who are supportive of our marriage not somebody who openly admitted to the opposite, and his mother confirming the admission. He says its not stupid and i remind him it is, but he gets off the phone after a couple minutes.

Then her mom txts me and wants me to tell matt that the tuxedo place said its too late for him to get fitted and he cant be in the wedding...i told her no, her son is out and thats that. she send me a :( and says ok.

Now by this time amanda is txting me begging me to let him be in the wedding, to which i continuously reply no its not happening. About 20min later she send me a text message that he sent her, basically telling HER to tell me that hes sorry and hes embarrassed abt how he acted and he didnt mean any of it(even though his mother confirmed his feelings of disapproval)...he wasnt even man enough to call me and say it to my face, but he and her family believe that since he apologized (to HER not ME).

Her family believes that since he said he was sorry, to her mind you that all should be forgotten and he deserves to be a groomsman still. I completely disagree on the basis that u said u never liked me and didnt want me to marry ur sister, and ur mother even confirmed ur diliking of us together, again y the fuck should u be allowed to stand by my side on my wedding day next to my real friends who actually want me together with amanda?

Her family continuosly tries to control our lives and make our decisions for us, but were not 5 anymore and we can make our own decisions. Its not their wedding. we both wanted to elope until her parents said church to her and she all of a sudden wants a church wedding. We arent even married yet and their driving us apart because we arent doing what they want. I made myself clear that after what he said either 2 things will happen, 1: hes out the wedding or 2: there is no wedding. I and everyone else i know that isnt under the Charlet umbrella agrees that her brother now has no right to be in the wedding and that she needs to grow up and tell her parents they cant control her life anymore, much less OURS when we start our own family together.

Breaking news: because he has been booted from groomsman to attendant he refuses to come to the wedding...

What do u guys thing of the situation? are her parens acting childish in the way theyre handling their son being off the line up even though he admitted he was against the wedding from the start, or am i the childish one because even though he "apologized" i still wont let him back in the wedding?


Again Very sorr for the novel, if u even made it this far
 

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Fuck em (her brother)

Hold your ground now with her parents and try and get her (your fiance) to understand as well or you will regret it..

They will realize that having their daughter happy is more important than letting their spoiled ass son ruin it and let the wedding run with him as an attendant.



Your a lot more cool headed than I am, thats for damn sure
 

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Damn bro sorry to hear all the drama before your happy event. Weddings are stupid stressful for the exact reason you're dealing with. People on the outside push their agendas to the discontent of everyone involved.

My quick advice if you want to appease her mom, add him as an extra groomsman and have him walk by himself and stand at the end of the line, furthest from you. Keep your boy as you wanted, but give them a compromise.

I think you need to get your fiance away from her family and ask her what she wants to do. Honestly, I'm sure you would do whatever you need to make her happy. Breaking her away from her mom's influence will be a process that will take awhile and you have to be careful to not make her resent you for pulling her away. You standing strong for what you believe is right is the right move in my opinion. Don't let the little weasel back in without him apologizing to your face, and if you don't feel it's sincere; fuck him.
 

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lol i was actually surprised at how level headed i was bec im actually very short tempered lol. I guess i was just in shock because of how stupid he was acting over me asking him to just ask me for help if he wants it, and not to expect it.

Amanda is VERY upset, but ive told her plain and simple if her parents try to control our decisions and all that jazz then we wont last as husband and wife. Hopefully shell grow some nuts as my bestman put it and tell her parents to get off her ass. Theyre actually trying to make her feel guilty for siding with me
 

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they're actually trying to make her feel guilty for siding with me
True test of your relationship right there my friend.


Sucks the parents would stoop to that level though..haven't they heard of bridezilla?
 

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Damn bro sorry to hear all the drama before your happy event. Weddings are stupid stressful for the exact reason you're dealing with. People on the outside push their agendas to the discontent of everyone involved.

My quick advice if you want to appease her mom, add him as an extra groomsman and have him walk by himself and stand at the end of the line, furthest from you. Keep your boy as you wanted, but give them a compromise.

I think you need to get your fiance away from her family and ask her what she wants to do. Honestly, I'm sure you would do whatever you need to make her happy. Breaking her away from her mom's influence will be a process that will take awhile and you have to be careful to not make her resent you for pulling her away. You standing strong for what you believe is right is the right move in my opinion. Don't let the little weasel back in without him apologizing to your face, and if you don't feel it's sincere; fuck him.
I said he could keep his tuxedo and be a groomsman from the pews but they didnt like the idea...his wife is one of the bridesmaids and one of their original justifications for him being in the wedding was that she can walk with anybod else bec hed get upset...like really wtf? shes hot and all but matt isnt gonna fucking rape her in the church...

Her entire family acts as though they are holier than thou bec they have money, but like i said id rather be poor and happy with my wife than miserable and rich with my wifes family controlling our marriage by manipulating her into whining to me to the point that ill do what they want so shell shut up. Im to the point that ill be single before i let them think they can continue controlling us.
 

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True test of your relationship right there my friend.


Sucks the parents would stoop to that level though..haven't they heard of bridezilla?
thats the problem...amanda is too much of a sweetheart. shed rather make herself miserable to please them than be happy herself. Her mom was texting her saying that its her (amandas) wedding too and she should have a say in who my groomsmen are and she doesnt care what i want...thats slight paraphrasing, but she did say that she doesnt care what i want

um i gues the fuck not, thats the one thing i get to be in control of.
 

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Fuck em (her brother)

Hold your ground now with her parents and try and get her (your fiance) to understand as well or you will regret it..

They will realize that having their daughter happy is more important than letting their spoiled ass son ruin it and let the wedding run with him as an attendant.



Your a lot more cool headed than I am, thats for damn sure
Couldn't have said it better. Fuck that dude man. It's a very important day for you and your girl. Not for her brother. He screwed himself by his douche bag comments and why the fuck would you want that douche standing next to you two while giving vowels?
You gotta suck up the parents BS but hold your ground on not allowing the douche in the wedding. Is your girl super tight with her parents? Meaning will they be over all the time at your home after you guys get married? That may be tough for a LONG time because of the douche and his actions man. But F him bro.
Could always take him out one night after the wedding on the pretense of reconciling and after a few beers kick the shit out of him and put him in his place for the remainder of your lives.
 

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Couldn't have said it better. Fuck that dude man. It's a very important day for you and your girl. Not for her brother. He screwed himself by his douche bag comments and why the fuck would you want that douche standing next to you two while giving vowels?
You gotta suck up the parents BS but hold your ground on not allowing the douche in the wedding. Is your girl super tight with her parents? Meaning will they be over all the time at your home after you guys get married? That may be tough for a LONG time because of the douche and his actions man. But F him bro.
Could always take him out one night after the wedding on the pretense of reconciling and after a few beers kick the shit out of him and put him in his place for the remainder of your lives.
:eek:ccasion1 Shes very close to her family but shes more over at there house. I think theyve come to her house maybe a handful of times, and im sure if the wedding does go according to plan then they wont be over for quite some time, which is fine with me because theyve been getting irritating for the past year but these recent evens have broken the camels back with me. They are really trying my patience with their whining and false sense of entitlement, but ive remianed calm for her and thats the only reason.
 

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Shake hands let him into the wedding and groomsman. Then spike a drink with xlax before the wedding. Hopefully he will shit himself in front if everyone :)
 

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Ok so as many of u know im supposed to be getting married in 2wks, well a while back when i was picking my groomsmen her parents wanted me to have their son as a groomsmen. Him and I however have never been close or really cared for each other, and I was always under the impression that a mans groomsmen are his go to guys, the best of the best if u will. Brent however is not even close to that, but doing them a favor i reluctantly agreed.

fast forward to yesterday. Im at the office and i walk by the secretarys desk and see a post it on some eviction letters from him. I asked her what are these? she tells me that theyre brents and he said to put them out. Well I actually dont work for brent, but I do for his dad, doin his collections an evictions. I txt brent thinking hed left and told him that he couldve asked me to put out his notes because i dont work for him. Im more than happy to help him out if he asks, but dont just assume ill do his work as well. I did not mean this an a rude way, but he ended up being off to the side of the building and i didnt know that when i sent the txt.

He comes up to me and says what are u talking about and i told him that if he wants me to do his stuff just ask, but dont just assume ill do ur work too when i dont work for u. he then started to raise his voice at me saying that he is the boss of me and that I have to do whatever he says. I remin him that I dont work for him. He starts yelling at me saying that bec his dad owes him money that he can tell me what to do as a sort of repayment. I remind him again that I dont work for him but if he would like me to do things for him all he has to do is ask. Now he starts telling me to get the fuck off the property and to never come back, then proceeded to shove me off the porch. i looked him in the eyes and told him he was being an ass, without raising my voice, just in sort of a wtf is going on with u kind of way. he continues to yell at me, to which i reply if ur going to act like this then u can stay home on the 5th.

This is where he tells me thats fine bec im a piece of shit and a loser and he never wanted to be in the wedding as well as he never wanted us to get married. Once he said that I was standing by the truck still in the wtf is wrong with u mind state but told him he was really being a douche bag, again never raised my voice just telling him hes acting like a douche bag.

I was standing inside the truck door when id said this bec I wasnt planning on fighting him, because his sister (my fiance) was standing their screaming and i wasnt going to do that infront of her. He came down and decided to slam the door into my chest so at this point im starting to lose my cool and took my half full NOS drink and chunk it into his face. He comes at me and tries to put his hands on me but i grabbed his arms and started walking him backwards if u will, but before anything else happened, Jake split us up, and instead of doing the ur lucky hes here crap i start tending to my fiance trying to calm her down. well we both leave

Now I go to her parents house bec they want to speak to me and start defending brent and i keep shutting down every attempt they make with facts an logic. I tell her mom hes out of the wedding bec he said he never wanted us to get married, and she says, "yea he was against yall getting married." I tell her then y the hell would anybody want somebody that doesnt suppport our marriage to have a role in the wedding of the ppl that during the ceremony take an oath to do whatever it takes to keep our marraige strong.

She had nothing to say other than I stilll think u should have him in the wedding, and im not paying for a wedding if hes not in it, which got under my skin but i didnt freak but i did tell her then there wont be a wedding bec hes not in it.

Now onto today...I go to work and do what im supposed to do just like normal, and I go home and start doing my homework and her dad calls me and asks if Id found another person to take his place? I said yes, Matt (who was my original pick) I could her her mom fussing in the background and her dad starts telling me that Brent wants to apologize and if i sit down and listen to him talk ill change my mind about kicking him out...I told him thats stupid as shit, and reiterate the thing about the wedding party should be ppl who are supportive of our marriage not somebody who openly admitted to the opposite, and his mother confirming the admission. He says its not stupid and i remind him it is, but he gets off the phone after a couple minutes.

Then her mom txts me and wants me to tell matt that the tuxedo place said its too late for him to get fitted and he cant be in the wedding...i told her no, her son is out and thats that. she send me a :( and says ok.

Now by this time amanda is txting me begging me to let him be in the wedding, to which i continuously reply no its not happening. About 20min later she send me a text message that he sent her, basically telling HER to tell me that hes sorry and hes embarrassed abt how he acted and he didnt mean any of it(even though his mother confirmed his feelings of disapproval)...he wasnt even man enough to call me and say it to my face, but he and her family believe that since he apologized (to HER not ME).

Her family believes that since he said he was sorry, to her mind you that all should be forgotten and he deserves to be a groomsman still. I completely disagree on the basis that u said u never liked me and didnt want me to marry ur sister, and ur mother even confirmed ur diliking of us together, again y the fuck should u be allowed to stand by my side on my wedding day next to my real friends who actually want me together with amanda?

Her family continuosly tries to control our lives and make our decisions for us, but were not 5 anymore and we can make our own decisions. Its not their wedding. we both wanted to elope until her parents said church to her and she all of a sudden wants a church wedding. We arent even married yet and their driving us apart because we arent doing what they want. I made myself clear that after what he said either 2 things will happen, 1: hes out the wedding or 2: there is no wedding. I and everyone else i know that isnt under the Charlet umbrella agrees that her brother now has no right to be in the wedding and that she needs to grow up and tell her parents they cant control her life anymore, much less OURS when we start our own family together.

Breaking news: because he has been booted from groomsman to attendant he refuses to come to the wedding...

What do u guys thing of the situation? are her parens acting childish in the way theyre handling their son being off the line up even though he admitted he was against the wedding from the start, or am i the childish one because even though he "apologized" i still wont let him back in the wedding?


Again Very sorr for the novel, if u even made it this far
I think you should have some more of those squid moments you were telling me about and do about 200mph past a fleet of cops and SWAT team haha.

Nah but F your fiances family dude. if you love her marry her. If she and the rest of the family is screwed up I suggest you leave them be and hop on your 10 and ride into the sun set.

If I was you, her brothers face would have been boxed up, I dont play some freaking idiot wanting to get violent with me. I dont care who he is and what he does, if he were to do that to me I would have to end it quickly.
 

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I hear you man. Normally, the bride picks the bridesmaids and the groom picks the groomsmen. Stand your ground and don't let your Mo-in-law think you are a pushover because that will only lead to future problems and likely bigger than this down the road.
Fuck that douche and I was serious with my last statement in previous post. Put that guy in his place down the road but sooner than later.
 

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You dont want to let her mom control you guys. If she gets this, then she will not stop after that and she will try and control your whole lives. You have to stop it before it starts, otherwise there is almost no stopping it. I think you are right to not want her BRO in the wedding. He sounds like a douche, and not someone you want standing next to you on the most important day of your life! You want YOUR friends, not who her parents say you want. You should sit down with Amanda and talk to her about it. And tell her her mom is abusing her powers and you need to set some rules with her, AND SET CONSEQUENCES for continueing to try and control you guys.

Anyways, thats a crappy situation and im sorry that it is all happening to you right before your wedding and i hope it all works out.
 

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I think you should have some more of those squid moments you were telling me about and do about 200mph past a fleet of cops and SWAT team haha.

Nah but F your fiances family dude. if you love her marry her. If she and the rest of the family is screwed up I suggest you leave them be and hop on your 10 and ride into the sun set.

If I was you, her brothers face would have been boxed up, I dont play some freaking idiot wanting to get violent with me. I dont care who he is and what he does, if he were to do that to me I would have to end it quickly.
Ive wanted to for a long time. Ive never liked him bec she used to come back to me and mention abt how he talked shit abt me behind my back so since then ive given no fucks abt him, and yesterday just burned a bridge for him. Hes a big swole guy, but i told him and her dad that idc how much bigger u are than me, u may beat me, but theres no chance in hell ur not gonna be hurting when its over with. I think he booted up so fast bec hes bigger than me, but once he went to put his hands on me and i started bring him backwards he kinda was like wtf this isnt supposed to happen
 

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I said he could keep his tuxedo and be a groomsman from the pews but they didnt like the idea...his wife is one of the bridesmaids and one of their original justifications for him being in the wedding was that she can walk with anybod else bec hed get upset...like really wtf? shes hot and all but matt isnt gonna fucking rape her in the church...

Her entire family acts as though they are holier than thou bec they have money, but like i said id rather be poor and happy with my wife than miserable and rich with my wifes family controlling our marriage by manipulating her into whining to me to the point that ill do what they want so shell shut up. Im to the point that ill be single before i let them think they can continue controlling us.
Wow what a douche, he's that insecure that his wife can't walk with someone else. That's a terrible excuse for him to be in the wedding, he can be an attendant or stay his ass home. OR give him the option: "you can be in the wedding but I get to punch you in the face." Then see if he stands up there with a black eye
 

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It's amazing what a roll of pennies in the fist will accomplish.
 

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You dont want to let her mom control you guys. If she gets this, then she will not stop after that and she will try and control your whole lives. You have to stop it before it starts, otherwise there is almost no stopping it. I think you are right to not want her BRO in the wedding. He sounds like a douche, and not someone you want standing next to you on the most important day of your life! You want YOUR friends, not who her parents say you want. You should sit down with Amanda and talk to her about it. And tell her her mom is abusing her powers and you need to set some rules with her, AND SET CONSEQUENCES for continueing to try and control you guys.

Anyways, thats a crappy situation and im sorry that it is all happening to you right before your wedding and i hope it all works out.
I told her straight up if she lets them do this to us then were destined to fail, and i have a major problem with people that have no authority, yet are delusional enough to think they do. Her dad is an asshole no doubt, and hes very wishy washy abt what he wants. hell say do something one way but when u do it u get bitched at for doing it that way but if u do it the new way he wants u get bitched at for not doing it the first way...hell tell the secretary and I that we cant do anything right and that were stupid(even though weve both been gone and he had no idea how to run his own business!) he was completely fucked, but still were idiots ofcourse and ive lit into him each time, but yesterday during their "intervention" with me he said at any other job id be fired for how i talk back. I told him that at any other job i wouldve beat the shit outta him for the way he talked to me.

Im no degenerate, I repect my elders and all and say yes sir and nor sir an all that, but IDC if ur Jesus Christ, if u degrade me and talk to me like im not human ill smack the shit outta u
 

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Ive wanted to for a long time. Ive never liked him bec she used to come back to me and mention abt how he talked shit abt me behind my back so since then ive given no fucks abt him, and yesterday just burned a bridge for him. Hes a big swole guy, but i told him and her dad that idc how much bigger u are than me, u may beat me, but theres no chance in hell ur not gonna be hurting when its over with. I think he booted up so fast bec hes bigger than me, but once he went to put his hands on me and i started bring him backwards he kinda was like wtf this isnt supposed to happen
What im trying to figure out is, why in the hell does her family want the brother to be in the wedding so badly.. I mean come on, this is suppose to be for you and your wife, not the family. I would postpone the wedding save up more money and do it yourslef, even if it has to be a smaller one. I wouldnt let them use their money to control your happieness.

Yeah im sure you did scare the bugger.. lol. He was thinking, yeah im big and bad, but forgot that being big doent equal to being able to handle business.
 

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Wow what a douche, he's that insecure that his wife can't walk with someone else. That's a terrible excuse for him to be in the wedding, he can be an attendant or stay his ass home. OR give him the option: "you can be in the wedding but I get to punch you in the face." Then see if he stands up there with a black eye
:lol: id do it for that! shit the only reason i even asked him was bec amanda let me fuck her in the ass. anytime she wants me to do something that im completely against i tell her ill do it if she does something that i swear shed never do, but like i said she wants to please everyone else more than herself that she actually let me do it! she cried when i got the mushroom tip in so i quit but u get the idea
 

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It's amazing what a roll of pennies in the fist will accomplish.
Ill pistol whip that biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch! hell i had it on my side while he was standing there yelling at me!

Hes very insecure, thats why hes gotten so big bec he wants to feel confident, but by God he is pussy whipped like a mother fucker! his wife found out he cheated on her and so she wouldnt marry him unless he admitted it, and hell his first wife left him, but wait, im the POS loser...

oh btw i have 2 sisters that arent bridesmaids...but like i said, she cares abt others happiness more than herself which backfired this time bec she said shed make my sisters bridesmaids if i had her brother...i facepalmed...i was like no thats not the point, the point is ur not close to my sisters so u didnt ask them and my family is perfectly fine with that but nooooo brent deserves to be in his siters wedding somehow, but making him a reader isnt good enough (1 of my sisters is a reader, and the other isnt in the wedding)
 
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