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I think I get what was happening, but wanted to ask those that may know more than I.

Some friends and I were coming off the ferry behind some ambitious 600s. We were an '03 R1, '93 FZR (Mean low-end bike!), and my '05 G.O.A.T. (Greatest Of All Time - for those that didn't know). We hit the road, and the 600s tried to run! This, of course, made us literbikes hungery to eat some 600 egos. I was second in line to blow pass the 600s. I was at about 110 when I switched lanes to pass. This is where it got crazy. I had to hang HARD off the right to get the bike back in the right lane! I was still acceling at about 125 when I noticed that the bike didn't want to stop going left. Freaked me out!:eyecrazy: I managed to drag the bike back to the right lane just in time to set up for the left hand sweeper that was coming up WAY TOO FAST. I didn't wipe, thanks to the slipper clutch and the front brakes.

This is my question. What the hell was happening when I was trying to come back right?

I think that it was just a ton of momentum that I had to overcome from switching lanes at high speed so quickly.:dontknow: Looking for opinions, facts, or whatever you got to offer.
 

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Possibly just wind ? I was riding the other day and the wind was so bad that I had to lean to the right to go straight. It didn't seem that windy when I left home, it just kinda came up. Maybe there was some wind from the right as well as your momentum going left and the increased wind from going fast. Just a thought. :dontknow:
 

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Possibly just wind ? I was riding the other day and the wind was so bad that I had to lean to the right to go straight. It didn't seem that windy when I left home, it just kinda came up. Maybe there was some wind from the right as well as your momentum going left and the increased wind from going fast. Just a thought. :dontknow:
:+1: That happen to me Friday. The wind was blowing so hard I was leaning to keep the bike going straight (at least 30 degrees) on the interstate. I thought I was tripping.

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its quite possible that you were just moving a hell of a lot faster than you thought you were, or are used to. the bike wont steer nearly as well at 70 as it will at 45.. at 125 its even worse. you're covering ground a hell of a lot more quickly and small inputs that would have been required to steer the bike back in the intended direction normally wont cut it at those speeds. this is how amateurs crash a lot of the time, they dont leave themselves enough time to recover from mistakes. not implying that you're an amateur, just implying you should leave yourself more time to make mistakes. and next time you're in the triple digits, take your skirt off and put some muscle in it. :smile:
 

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Quick question. Do you have a hyprepro sterring damper on your bike. i'm just asking becuase it is an active damper that gets stiffer as your speed increases. is it possible that as you were accelerating and going around the 600's and as you speed increased the damper stiffend at that point which made it harder to get it back where you wanted? i'm just curious. if anyone knows if that is even a possiblity let me know. i have been thinking about getting the hyperpro.
 

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or maybe you werent countersteering enough? you dont need to move your body to switch directions with exception or taking corners. try pushing the handlebars more- it works for me.
 

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Think it may have been a combo of wind and speed. The bay was to my right, cuz we had just got off the ferry, and we were out in the boonies (no buildings for wind cover).

As far as room for mistakes, I always expect the worst. I have seen too many people wipe trying to do too much. I am a legend in the "recovery" department. It's the trying to "recover" that puts people off the road. Better to ride out the mistake and adjust, then trying to change the mistake that can't be changed. Just the way that I think
 

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BTW, thanks for the opinions!:wink:
 

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QCaesar said:
....... I am a legend in the "recovery" department. .......
:notworthy Man, it must be tough to be a living legend. :notworthy

I'll have to make a note to read every post written by "The Legend of Recovery" - aka - QCaesar
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PRIMO said:
Quick question. Do you have a hyprepro sterring damper on your bike. i'm just asking becuase it is an active damper that gets stiffer as your speed increases. is it possible that as you were accelerating and going around the 600's and as you speed increased the damper stiffend at that point which made it harder to get it back where you wanted? i'm just curious. if anyone knows if that is even a possiblity let me know. i have been thinking about getting the hyperpro.
the Hyperpro RSC is supposed to be progressively stiffer as the handlebars move faster, not the bike. The damper has no idea how fast you're going :mrgreen:

I think it's more likely that you had your damper adjusted too stiff, and the fact that when accelerating at that speed, it's just really difficult to change directions
 

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its quite possible that you were just moving a hell of a lot faster than you thought you were, or are used to. the bike wont steer nearly as well at 70 as it will at 45.. at 125 its even worse. you're covering ground a hell of a lot more quickly and small inputs that would have been required to steer the bike back in the intended direction normally wont cut it at those speeds. this is how amateurs crash a lot of the time, they dont leave themselves enough time to recover from mistakes. not implying that you're an amateur, just implying you should leave yourself more time to make mistakes. and next time you're in the triple digits, take your skirt off and put some muscle in it. :smile:

:crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :+1:
 

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dnwhoop02 said:
the Hyperpro RSC is supposed to be progressively stiffer as the handlebars move faster, not the bike. The damper has no idea how fast you're going :mrgreen:
thanks i was curious about that. now how about the honda ESD on the CBR 1000? does that work off of the same concept as the hyperpro?:dontknow:
 

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:notworthy Man, it must be tough to be a living legend. :notworthy

I'll have to make a note to read every post written by "The Legend of Recovery" - aka - QCaesar
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What a prick!:crackup: I like it.
 

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crash769 said:
:notworthy Man, it must be tough to be a living legend. :notworthy

I'll have to make a note to read every post written by "The Legend of Recovery" - aka - QCaesar
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You do that, then. Maybe one day I will send you an autograph.:fu2: :wink:
 

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Dnwhoop is right about the RSC. Nothing to do with the speed of the bike. You might mistake it for the speed of the bike because like previously said it is harder to steer at higher speeds. Also the little shimmys and bumps felt in the road are happen quickly, a little dip makes a jerk at a high speed. Therefore it would seem as though the speed activates the damper more when in actuality it is the jerks are harder at the speed. Hope that makes sense, its getting kinda late.
 
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