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did you try setting the pivot to the downward position (-1)
standard is +1
if you reverse it becomes -1

I got a setting table by Bitubo to set my suspension and they advice to set the pivot a -1
 

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wat are you talking about. I'm guessing forks. If so then splitting hairs like that is for factory riders with their own techs. Why techs hate pros. On other hand, techs hate everybody. lol
 

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Lol
Swing arm has a settable pivot
Depends how you mount the collar it can be set +1 or -1mm
Splitting hairs? LoL
That changes totally the behaviour of bike and you talk about splitting hairs?
 

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I know two of my fellow race buddys who did it....
I was waiting to hear from others 1st....

didnt want to go and muck everything up...
 

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Lol
Swing arm has a settable pivot
Depends how you mount the collar it can be set +1 or -1mm
Splitting hairs? LoL
That changes totally the behaviour of bike and you talk about splitting hairs?
Dictate exact evidence that you have a problem then. And what you're doing when whatever idea pops into your head.
 

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Dictate exact evidence that you have a problem then. And what you're doing when whatever idea pops into your head.
You should read instead of talking
Bitubo send me a setting sheet where they suggest -1mm on the pivot
It's not my idea...
 

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You should read instead of talking
Bitubo send me a setting sheet where they suggest -1mm on the pivot
It's not my idea...
Dude, if you don't ride Da Loop like the Scout here, you're not in the know. His tech's are the best. You have a dork bike anyway. :2bitchslap:



:crackup:

I say flip the pivot and see how it goes and let the rest of us know how it works out for you! The Bitubo stuff is :bling: Pretty trick!
 

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Dude, if you don't ride Da Loop like the Scout here, you're not in the know. His tech's are the best. You have a dork bike anyway. :2bitchslap:



:crackup:

I say flip the pivot and see how it goes and let the rest of us know how it works out for you! The Bitubo stuff is :bling: Pretty trick!

I don't know scout , but he's not beeing usefull in this moment,
I'm just only trying to collect more infos as possible, this is purpose of a forum I guess
anyway, from what I understood no one has info about it.
I will try it for you
 

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I don't know scout , but he's not beeing usefull in this moment,
:ayyy: Scout's kinda like the forum clown around here. Luv though Scout!

The guy you wanna get your info from in here is that evallarta1 guy. That dude knows what he's talking about.
 

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Dictate exact evidence that you have a problem then. And what you're doing when whatever idea pops into your head.
Let's be clear about what's what.

IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT.

I'll say one more thing but no one wants to hear it.

The problems are USUALLY WITH THE RIDER, NOT THE BIKE.

People start chasing all kinds of things by throwing money at the bike or making adjustments.

"Wow, I can change this thing, let me see if it makes me faster."

I have said it before; unless you or your rider can ride your bike as fast as it can be ridden by any person at any given track then making all kinds of hardware changes are not going to be of help.

I say again also, if it's a ZX-10R, Jason Pridmore is your benchmark. If you can lap any given track as fast as he can, on a stock bike, then maybe it's time to start working on the bike. Otherwise work on yourself.
 

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Let's be clear about what's what.

IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT.

I'll say one more thing but no one wants to hear it.

The problems are USUALLY WITH THE RIDER, NOT THE BIKE.

People start chasing all kinds of things by throwing money at the bike or making adjustments.

"Wow, I can change this thing, let me see if it makes me faster."

I have said it before; unless you or your rider can ride your bike as fast as it can be ridden by any person at any given track then making all kinds of hardware changes are not going to be of help.

I say again also, if it's a ZX-10R, Jason Pridmore is your benchmark. If you can lap any given track as fast as he can, on a stock bike, then maybe it's time to start working on the bike. Otherwise work on yourself.

While this is generally true, how the bike feels is directly related to confidence in the bike and being able to push it faster. Everyone is after that specific feeling. Since the op changed the rear shock, the swingarm settings through the pivot should be changed to accommodate that based on the recommended settings from the manufacturer.

Exploring the changeable parameters of the bike is totally natural to try and improve it. Waiting until there is a specific problem before going that route will never yield any improvements. Yes, you can make it worse by changing things, but improvements are also there. The only thing you'll ever know is the only thing you've ever tried.

Go make your adjustments op! The rest of our opinions are just that - opinions. :ayyy:
 

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the main issue I have is the feeling with the rear
I used the bike only 3 times on the track by now, I didn't find a nice feeling till now, so I'm trying to understand what could be the problem.
Before changing the pivot position I want to try another spring on the shock, I'm 85kg and I have used 100 and 105 , I'm trying 110 and 311 shock lenght.
After that , I could think to try a different pivot position, but I was investigating about it, may someone else had tried it and could give a feedback
 

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He is trying setup based on what his suspension manufacture suggests. Why are there people on here criticizing that? Feel free to just move on by.

To answer the OP. I have not done it to date, however this is one of the things we are looking at with my suspension tech to try and create more rear end grip. I'll let you know how our race weekend goes.
 

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I wish I had a Gen 5. :sad:
 

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Let's be clear about what's what.

IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT.

I'll say one more thing but no one wants to hear it.

The problems are USUALLY WITH THE RIDER, NOT THE BIKE.

People start chasing all kinds of things by throwing money at the bike or making adjustments.

"Wow, I can change this thing, let me see if it makes me faster."

I have said it before; unless you or your rider can ride your bike as fast as it can be ridden by any person at any given track then making all kinds of hardware changes are not going to be of help.

I say again also, if it's a ZX-10R, Jason Pridmore is your benchmark. If you can lap any given track as fast as he can, on a stock bike, then maybe it's time to start working on the bike. Otherwise work on yourself.
No, so much no.
 

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the main issue I have is the feeling with the rear
I used the bike only 3 times on the track by now, I didn't find a nice feeling till now, so I'm trying to understand what could be the problem.
Before changing the pivot position I want to try another spring on the shock, I'm 85kg and I have used 100 and 105 , I'm trying 110 and 311 shock lenght.
After that , I could think to try a different pivot position, but I was investigating about it, may someone else had tried it and could give a feedback
Can you dive more into "nice feeling"? What was it doing before?

Keep in mind Bitubo comes with a digressive style valving along with a fairly stiff topout spring. These are variables are pretty substantial when choosing what rate to go with.
 
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