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I recently changed jobs. I am going from a 28Kish gross to mid 50's take home annually. I am going to wait a little while before I make in major purchases just to make sure the job works out and I don't stick myself with bills I can't afford should something happen. The oil field pays well but enough people want a job it don't take much of a screw up to forced to find another.

I am limited on my car choices since I live a rural area and have limited dealers close by. I don't want to drive 2-3 hours for warrenty work. The most I want to pay is low 30K's. I could get a stripped 2011 Mustang GT, loaded Mustang v6 (not a problem for me since they are about as quick as the previous gt), or a 370Z. I am as single as it gets so I am not worried about passenger space. I don't even have a passenger 98% of the time. The mustang is cheaper but I can also get a pretty good deal on the 370 because my buddy works at a dealer. I still have to look at insurance cost. I am over 25 with a spotless record and no claims. I the Z is going to be more just not sure how much. I like the extra space of the 'stang but every high school girl has one. The two cars should perform close enough that it won't really play a part in the decision making. I do need to test drive them both to see how they feel to me.

I know my friend that the dealer said that when the 350Z's were marked down to 20K as the 370's were coming out he would still get the 370. They are 10K better that the 350.

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Hard choice. I like both and had an '06 350Z for 2 1/2 years before i sold it back to Nissan under the lemon law. It burned too much oil (only effected the '06 manual with 300hp). I loved that car, it was solid built, handled much better than a mustang. However, that new 2011 mustang gt has a load of hp vs. the 2010 - I would be tempted to get the mustang.

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Top Gear tested both the mustang gt and new 370z on their track and raved big time about the 370. You really don't want me to repeat what they said about the mustang and cornering - if it's the same model it had a big heavy straight axel in the rear.
 

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Top Gear tested both the mustang gt and new 370z on their track and raved big time about the 370. You really don't want me to repeat what they said about the mustang and cornering - if it's the same model it had a big heavy straight axel in the rear.

And your suprised Top Gear liked the Japanese car over the Ford?

I am not, they hate American cars on there, they even compared the Z06's suspension to a Horse and Buggy, they are well know to be biased against Yank Tanks.


OP, one thing to conscider, while the V6 Mustang is potent, you will always have that stigma floating around that its "just a V6 stang" I don;t think I could stand knowing that that new 5.0 is out there and so bad ass. I would hold off a few months and maybe a used 2011 GT will show up for the same price range as a new loaded V6, just one guys opinion though.
 

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And your suprised Top Gear liked the Japanese car over the Ford?

I am not, they hate American cars on there, they even compared the Z06's suspension to a Horse and Buggy, they are well know to be biased against Yank Tanks.


OP, one thing to conscider, while the V6 Mustang is potent, you will always have that stigma floating around that its "just a V6 stang" I don;t think I could stand knowing that that new 5.0 is out there and so bad ass. I would hold off a few months and maybe a used 2011 GT will show up for the same price range as a new loaded V6, just one guys opinion though.
Your right about Top Gear's bias, but wrong if you think the mustang can stick anywhere near to the z370 in corners - I've owned several stangs and a 350z and any comparison out there that honest clearly shows even with a trac pack the mustang doesn't hold a candle to the Z in corners or on the track.

http://www.insideline.com/nissan/370z/2009/comparison-test-2010-ford-mustang-gt-vs-2009-nissan-370z.html
 

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I don't think I can make myself go 10K on an oil change. I have changed oil for a living and have seen some 10K oil and it was not pretty.

I am wanted to get a new car. If I can't find the one I want I may go and custom order one. I want to have what ever car I get for a long time. Drive the wheels off of it (hopefully not literally). I worked in a Nissan dealership for a couple years and know for sure the VQ motor is pretty rock solid. The new mustang motor I am unsure of. I would like to support the only American non-government owned company and I like the looks of a the Mustang. But choosing a car that I want to drive for the next 10 years and spend what I am used to making in a year is a rather big decision for me. The most money I have ever let go at once was 5K for my RC51. I will be lucky if I can get a loan for the car. The only loan that I have had in my life was for the 10 and I had the cash in the bank to pay in full. I just want to build some credit. I have always had a roommate with the bills in their name and paid cash for everything. I plan on putting 20K down. I should be able to do that by Christmas if I watch what I spend. Right now I am research mode.
 

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Your right about Top Gear's bias, but wrong if you think the mustang can stick anywhere near to the z370 in corners - I've owned several stangs and a 350z and any comparison out there that honest clearly shows even with a trac pack the mustang doesn't hold a candle to the Z in corners or on the track.

http://www.insideline.com/nissan/370z/2009/comparison-test-2010-ford-mustang-gt-vs-2009-nissan-370z.html
I think you are gravely underestimating the handling prowess of the 2011 Mustang, solid axle or not it flat out handles, this is no 2004 GT or something, this is a qualtiy car with years of R&D on proven suspension geometry that flat out works. There are several articles just like this around, Ford shot for the M3 Benchmark in racetrack handling and if they have not surpassed it, they have came damn near close, not sure if the handling on a 370 is in the same ballpark as a M3 or new GT, but give credit where credit is due, solid axle or not the new stang is a buetiflully balanced, well handling car.
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/16/2011-ford-mustang-gt-vs-2010-bmw-m3-tie-game/
http://blog.cardomain.com/2010/04/19/unlikely-comparo-bmw-m3-vs-ford-mustang-gt/
hhttp://www.roadandtrack.com/future-cars/first/2012-ford-mustang-boss-302ttp://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/2011-mustang/223244-who-would-like-see-2011-mustang-5-0-vs-current-bmw-m3.html
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1511224
 

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I think you are gravely underestimating the handling prowess of the 2011 Mustang, solid axle or not it flat out handles, this is no 2004 GT or something, this is a qualtiy car with years of R&D on proven suspension geometry that flat out works. There are several articles just like this around, Ford shot for the M3 Benchmark in racetrack handling and if they have not surpassed it, they have came damn near close, not sure if the handling on a 370 is in the same ballpark as a M3 or new GT, but give credit where credit is due, solid axle or not the new stang is a buetiflu balanced, well handling car.
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/16/2011-ford-mustang-gt-vs-2010-bmw-m3-tie-game/
:lol: right

No solid axle vehicle can handle like independent rear suspension on a Z, not to mention the stiff suspension and geometry. I know both cars quite well, one is like handling a brick when compared to the other. As much as I like the Mustang (and I would probably choose it over the Z) b/c it's an American muscle car. It will beat the Z in a straight line but not in the corners no matter what you say.
 

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Your right about Top Gear's bias, but wrong if you think the mustang can stick anywhere near to the z370 in corners - I've owned several stangs and a 350z and any comparison out there that honest clearly shows even with a trac pack the mustang doesn't hold a candle to the Z in corners or on the track.

http://www.insideline.com/nissan/370z/2009/comparison-test-2010-ford-mustang-gt-vs-2009-nissan-370z.html
Does that explain why the BOSS outlaps a BMW M3?


I don't think I can make myself go 10K on an oil change. I have changed oil for a living and have seen some 10K oil and it was not pretty.
It has much higher oil capacity than a normal car. Ford also uses syn blend or full syn in all their vehicles now so the oil lasts quite a while. The V6s new gigantic oil pan extends the life expectancy of the oil greatly.
 

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I have read that the 2011 mustang just about gets all that can be had from a live rear axle. Everybody raves about the handling. I don't doubt it can handle better than I can drive it much like 10. There is somehing to be said for sliding a solid rear axle around a corner. They just feel better than IRS. I do plan on some bolt on mods for that ever I get.

I know that with the 350Z it felt good stock but with the Nismo sway bars you could tell a difference. I had a customer that had one. Paid cash brought it back the next day and said "this handles like a woman's car" and dropped another 14K in mods and install. Headers really woke up the 350's. The guy could drive. Said he was keeping up with the red race group at Motorsport Ranch. All he had done was Nismo cold air intake, headers, exhaust, sway bars. Then acid polished the intake and put a tuner on it. He a would wear out a set of brembo brake pads and tires in a week end. Then car got stolen at gun point and retrieved in New Orleans (he had only had the car for a couple months)This was late 05. Since it crossed state lines he had the option of letting it go to police auction and getting insurance pay out. It was insured for 50K so he got a new vette and sent it to lingenfelter for some 500hp treatment. These were his dd's his race cars was a 500hp turbo 300z and 300 some hp NA 300Z.
 

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I think IRS handling really comes into play on uneven pavement. If your on a nice smooth surface, LRA is (imo) more than sufficient for any street driving.

The new Mustang pulls almost a G on the skidpad. What more do you need for handing in a DD? The steering is light, 6 speed is standard, 30+ MPG, and it's like 23K new. I think that's a pretty good value.
 

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The 370 & Mustang GT are still the best two sportscars for the money IMO. Again, the mustang has huge hp gains over previous models and would be my choice.
 
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