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So yesterday I went with some friends and rode through Palomar. I can't believe how many idiots do stupid shit on that mountain, I saw a good 3 or 4 people actually flying through a corner dragging knee, then hopping into the opposing trafics lane to pass cars with absolutely no idea if there is traffic getting ready to come around the corner. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a good spirited ride through the canyons/mountains, but if people are going to ride that aggresively/stupidly it should be saved for the track. Really makes me hate riding on some of these beautiful twisty roads we have here in Cali because of these guys. Anyone else notice the same kind of stuff? I seem to see it more and more lately. Just bugs me when these guys could make one fatal mistake that has the potential to take me out too.
 

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So yesterday I went with some friends and rode through Palomar. I can't believe how many idiots do stupid shit on that mountain, I saw a good 3 or 4 people actually flying through a corner dragging knee, then hopping into the opposing trafics lane to pass cars with absolutely no idea if there is traffic getting ready to come around the corner. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a good spirited ride through the canyons/mountains, but if people are going to ride that aggresively/stupidly it should be saved for the track. Really makes me hate riding on some of these beautiful twisty roads we have here in Cali because of these guys. Anyone else notice the same kind of stuff? I seem to see it more and more lately. Just bugs me when these guys could make one fatal mistake that has the potential to take me out too.


I think this has been happening since the first person threw a leg over the first bike :lol: When I was younger it was me and now :dontknow: :dontknow: You kids get off my DARN lawn :lol: Try getting out earlier for the ride kids like to sleep in :mrgreen:
 

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Im no kid but I would be trying to get my knee down on some of those mountain roads! But not while I was passing a car:eek2:
 

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when there is no traffic, that is a fantastic road to go relatively quick on and have a lot of fun riding. You are correct about the idiots though, both cars and bikes alike. Whenever i roll out there i go early and leave early.
 

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when there is no traffic, that is a fantastic road to go relatively quick on and have a lot of fun riding. You are correct about the idiots though, both cars and bikes alike. Whenever i roll out there i go early and leave early.
I do agree with that. That road is a blast to ride on. Don't get me wrong either, I love to go fast just as much as the next guy, I just think it's ridiculously stupid what some of these people attempt to do on the twistys. Endangering your own life is one thing, but not everyone else out there.

I just noticed your location is San Diego too. It must be awesome living so near Palomar. Even with the occasional idiots that is still my absolute favorite place to ride.
 

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We go pretty often and only ride the lower half because the upper part of the mountain sucks because of the condition of the road. I see many guys go up there in jeans, or with a passenger and attempt to ride hard, or they have no ability and just pin it on the straights only to barely turn the bike in the corner. You are right, if i plan on really pushing, ill go to willow or chuckwalla, but if i want a spirited weekend run, ill hit up Palomar.
 

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So yesterday I went with some friends and rode through Palomar. I can't believe how many idiots do stupid shit on that mountain, I saw a good 3 or 4 people actually flying through a corner dragging knee, then hopping into the opposing trafics lane to pass cars with absolutely no idea if there is traffic getting ready to come around the corner. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a good spirited ride through the canyons/mountains, but if people are going to ride that aggresively/stupidly it should be saved for the track. Really makes me hate riding on some of these beautiful twisty roads we have here in Cali because of these guys. Anyone else notice the same kind of stuff? I seem to see it more and more lately. Just bugs me when these guys could make one fatal mistake that has the potential to take me out too.[/QUO

It's bad enough that most who do it don't know what they are doing and endanger themselves but where I ride they take other people out with them....and they come from far away to do it..............

consequently the cops and locals get down on all the bikes that go up there..
the link below is the latest..........the 19 year old sport bike rider could'nt make a relatively easy turn crossed the line and took out a few cruisers coming in the opposite direction


http://www.vcstar.com/news/2011/sep/18/possibly-fatal-motorcycle-crash-on-33-downs-six/


http://www.russbrown.com/motorcycle-lawyer-blog/2182/deadly-highway-33-in-ventura-county-continues-to-claim-l-a-area-motorcyclists.html
 

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It's bad enough that most who do it don't know what they are doing and endanger themselves but where I ride they take other people out with them....and they come from far away to do it..............

consequently the cops and locals get down on all the bikes that go up there..
the link below is the latest..........the 19 year old sport bike rider could'nt make a relatively easy turn crossed the line and took out a few cruisers coming in the opposite direction


http://www.vcstar.com/news/2011/sep/18/possibly-fatal-motorcycle-crash-on-33-downs-six/


http://www.russbrown.com/motorcycle-lawyer-blog/2182/deadly-highway-33-in-ventura-county-continues-to-claim-l-a-area-motorcyclists.html
Highway 33, that's one of the rodes you ride? Is that a nice rode with a decent amount of turns? I've heard of hwy 33 but I've never been on it before. I'm always looking for new places to ride.
 

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We go pretty often and only ride the lower half because the upper part of the mountain sucks because of the condition of the road. I see many guys go up there in jeans, or with a passenger and attempt to ride hard, or they have no ability and just pin it on the straights only to barely turn the bike in the corner. You are right, if i plan on really pushing, ill go to willow or chuckwalla, but if i want a spirited weekend run, ill hit up Palomar.
This is why I stick to the upper half of the mountain...so I can avoid the wreckless Rossi-Wannabe types. The last thing I need is some hero low-siding into my lane. The upper half may be a bit choppy, but it's also a nice chill ride.

Not everyone goes to Palomar to drag-knee. Just saying...
 

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So yesterday I went with some friends and rode through Palomar. I can't believe how many idiots do stupid shit on that mountain, I saw a good 3 or 4 people actually flying through a corner dragging knee, then hopping into the opposing trafics lane to pass cars with absolutely no idea if there is traffic getting ready to come around the corner. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a good spirited ride through the canyons/mountains, but if people are going to ride that aggresively/stupidly it should be saved for the track. Really makes me hate riding on some of these beautiful twisty roads we have here in Cali because of these guys. Anyone else notice the same kind of stuff? I seem to see it more and more lately. Just bugs me when these guys could make one fatal mistake that has the potential to take me out too.
I was fortunate once to have jumped into the opposing traffic lane when no vehicle was coming on a road in Escondido. I went a little to fast into a turn and ended-up on the other side of the road. I almost shit my pants when it happened because I knew what the consequences could've been. I was with a big group about 3-4 away from the lead rider, I was trying to keep up with the lead group. At that point, I knew I was done riding hard for that day and let several people pass me before jumping back on the road. The following week the same group went for a ride on the same road (I was out of town that weekend and didn't go) and one of the guys that had been behind the previous week jumped into the opposing lane but didn't have the same luck; he hit a car head-on and didn't make it.

We all have limitations and we need to know them...
 

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I was fortunate once to have jumped into the opposing traffic lane when no vehicle was coming on a road in Escondido. I went a little to fast into a turn and ended-up on the other side of the road. I almost shit my pants when it happened because I knew what the consequences could've been. I was with a big group about 3-4 away from the lead rider, I was trying to keep up with the lead group. At that point, I knew I was done riding hard for that day and let several people pass me before jumping back on the road. The following week the same group went for a ride on the same road (I was out of town that weekend and didn't go) and one of the guys that had been behind the previous week jumped into the opposing lane but didn't have the same luck; he hit a car head-on and didn't make it.

We all have limitations and we need to know them...
Man, that sucks. It just happens all too often though. I see alot of people that are basically living on borrowed time doing things like that. Everyone should really just calm down a bit on the streets. If we would all ride at our own pace and not worry about keeping up with others or just making hasty and dangerous decisions when passing I think accidents would be greatly reduced.
 

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Highway 33, that's one of the rodes you ride? Is that a nice rode with a decent amount of turns? I've heard of hwy 33 but I've never been on it before. I'm always looking for new places to ride.
there is a run we call the loop....200 miles of twisties...................

it is unfortunately fairly well known among a small group of people......car and driver/motor trend use it when they do comparos.....

sport bike/motorcyclist/cycle world use it when they do comparos

bike and car manufacture's use it to test new models

people read the storys, find the route then come up to "try it out"....

the road has very fast sweepers, slow decreasing radius turns, slow turns and a couple of straights you that look real safe till you come upon the turns and then unknowingly take them going 70 miles m p h to fast.........................

it also has look out points and turn outs that are at places that look completly safe til you come around a bend on your bike and see a SUV with two bikes strapped to the back, doing a three point turn with the driver having a cell in one hand, a cup of starbucks in the other and his head up his ass.......................

then of course there are the jacked up 150's with the mirrors that protrude about five feet out whose drivers like to ride the double yellow while they are "road racing"

all in all your typical american road..............
 

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This is why I stick to the upper half of the mountain...so I can avoid the wreckless Rossi-Wannabe types. The last thing I need is some hero low-siding into my lane. The upper half may be a bit choppy, but it's also a nice chill ride.

Not everyone goes to Palomar to drag-knee. Just saying...
the upper half is trash bro, thats the segment of pavement even god forgot. Come on out with us early one of these weekends for a ride,:thumbsup:
 
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