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My dad is loosin his job after working there 28 years. Good ol'former president bush and another individual bought the company that he works for. They fixed it up and now they have sold it to the chinese. They told him that on Dec. 31 is his last day of work. Nice christmas present, huh. Watch out for politicians and all i have to say to them is :fu2: :fu2: :fu2:
 

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loosin?

Losing.

Too bad about your dad. Is he getting any severance or partial retirement or anything? What does he do? There's a TON of jobs out there, and there's no reason he shouldn't be able to get back to work quickly. Hell, if he's a machinist in SD, I'll put him to work!
 

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Thats crap Luckz!

Sorry to hear that!

I guess on the bright side, you dad has plenty of time to find another job.

Good luck to him...

This countrys forgetting about the people...gonna outsource all the jobs and then where we gonna be?
 

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1st they outsource Everything to China then they keep the FBI busy trying to fight the counterfeiting going on in China.
Execs. know for a fact that anything made there will be copied there, then we waste our resources fighting counterfeiting so that a private or public company doesn't lose money to what they invited.

Sorry your dad got caught up in the B.S.
 

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gonna outsource all the jobs and then where we gonna be?
LoL. We'll be just fine.

Economics 101: We've been outsourcing jobs for how long now? Yet we are still creating them. For every job that's outsourced, new jobs are created to replace them elsewhere. Changing jobs is a damn sight different than losing jobs.

Unemployement is at nearly record lows (not considering last week, which will have an effect, but that effect will be countered when the rebuilding begins). There's a ton of work out there in many different fields. The only people that are not working right now are the people that don't want to work.

The stock markets are still rising. Gas prices are up across the board, but that is short term, as half the refineries are set to be back up and running in a few days (weeks at most) and we will see lower gas prices, as well as lower oil prices. (The oil price could be a problem if it gets too low, and I predict, with the recent scare, that demand will sharply deminish for oil across the globe, causing the price to drop dramatically to levels we haven't seen in a while.) (BTW, it's nice to see you fuckers paying as much and in some places more than I typically pay for once. :D )

Perhaps you should research things just a bit before you get all butt-hurt over something that isn't even an issue. People change jobs all the time. Learn to adapt or learn to pan-handle.

BTW, many MANY manufacturers are finding the quality of China and the lack of communication capability during the mfg process there less than acceptable. If you're in the industry, and quality is an issue, prepare to start seeing things come back to the US.
 

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LoL. We'll be just fine.

Economics 101: We've been outsourcing jobs for how long now? Yet we are still creating them. For every job that's outsourced, new jobs are created to replace them elsewhere. Changing jobs is a damn sight different than losing jobs.

Unemployement is at nearly record lows (not considering last week, which will have an effect, but that effect will be countered when the rebuilding begins). There's a ton of work out there in many different fields. The only people that are not working right now are the people that don't want to work.

The stock markets are still rising. Gas prices are up across the board, but that is short term, as half the refineries are set to be back up and running in a few days (weeks at most) and we will see lower gas prices, as well as lower oil prices. (The oil price could be a problem if it gets too low, and I predict, with the recent scare, that demand will sharply deminish for oil across the globe, causing the price to drop dramatically to levels we haven't seen in a while.) (BTW, it's nice to see you fuckers paying as much and in some places more than I typically pay for once. :D )

Perhaps you should research things just a bit before you get all butt-hurt over something that isn't even an issue. People change jobs all the time. Learn to adapt or learn to pan-handle.

BTW, many MANY manufacturers are finding the quality of China and the lack of communication capability during the mfg process there less than acceptable. If you're in the industry, and quality is an issue, prepare to start seeing things come back to the US.
#1: China is building infrastructure at an alarming rate
#2: They are building it to take more work from the US not sending it back
#3; They are buying more concrete, steel and oil than the US
#4 The only jobs I know of being created in the US are Homeland Security
Biometric and now New Orleans might have some levee repair jobs.
#5: You sound like a recording of Rush Limbaugh
#6: Sunbeam, K-Mart, MARS Musician's Planet, Enron, Ford, GM and Chrysler
ALL disagree that "the economy is fine"
#7: Are you buying stock?
#8: Do the Casino workers in Biloxi not want to work?
#9: Tell me the economy is fine when you have to pay more income tax
because all the Callcenter, Contract Manufacturer and ODM workers
that replaced our jobs won't be paying federal and state tax in the US
#10: Do some research yourself?
 

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FukNRekd said:
LoL. We'll be just fine.

Economics 101: We've been outsourcing jobs for how long now? Yet we are still creating them. For every job that's outsourced, new jobs are created to replace them elsewhere. Changing jobs is a damn sight different than losing jobs.

Unemployement is at nearly record lows (not considering last week, which will have an effect, but that effect will be countered when the rebuilding begins). There's a ton of work out there in many different fields. The only people that are not working right now are the people that don't want to work.

The stock markets are still rising. Gas prices are up across the board, but that is short term, as half the refineries are set to be back up and running in a few days (weeks at most) and we will see lower gas prices, as well as lower oil prices. (The oil price could be a problem if it gets too low, and I predict, with the recent scare, that demand will sharply deminish for oil across the globe, causing the price to drop dramatically to levels we haven't seen in a while.) (BTW, it's nice to see you fuckers paying as much and in some places more than I typically pay for once. :D )

Perhaps you should research things just a bit before you get all butt-hurt over something that isn't even an issue. People change jobs all the time. Learn to adapt or learn to pan-handle.

BTW, many MANY manufacturers are finding the quality of China and the lack of communication capability during the mfg process there less than acceptable. If you're in the industry, and quality is an issue, prepare to start seeing things come back to the US.

:jerkit: :jerkit: :jerkit:

People that sit back and do nothing and think this way, is whats going to kill us. Why do you think the gas prices are going up? Because china is using way more oil than it ever has before. This hurricane thing is a temporary minor impact on oil prices, China's demand for it is the real threat. They are quickly becoming the most industrious country in the world.
 

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Free-Market
Nosirrrreee....

Tony:

The Chinese will not buy anything made in America due to excessive tariffs...
Pair of Levi's....$125
Ralph Lauren shirt...$250...
You won't see anybody in China buying our goods....so that's not "free"
That's "one sided"...not even an Apple iPOD..
They just released the tie to the American $$ with their currency that gave them an unfair price advantage..they are still regulating the value.
 

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We live in a free-market economy. I understand that there are some tariffs and some government support of primarily agricultural products, but it is the best example of a true free-market in existence. Tariffs have existed all over the world for hundreds of years and the US has made the mistake of trying this in the past. Tariffs are generally used to support industries that either make up a significant portion of a country’s GDP or have significant political clout. We do not export Polo ties to China because the Chinese can make them cheaper and the average Chinese worker can't afford one. This is not a bad thing. The US is the largest consumer in the world. Therefore, it makes sense that we would have a trade deficit because we can't support our own wants. What we export is technology and services and to some degree food. People complain when we lose manufacturing jobs. I hate to tell you this, but most people, especially this generation, have no desire to work manufacturing jobs. A huge plant in my town has 3 times the turnover for their labor force than they had 20 years ago. When I was growing up it was the dream of high school graduates to go there and work their entire lives. This is no longer the case even though they still pay very well. Their operating costs rose and they almost went under. Why? Because their competition could get people to perform those jobs overseas and could sell products cheaper. We as consumers then buy those products for less money. As manufacturing jobs have moved overseas over the last 20 years, we have seen a period of the lowest inflation in our history.

While China is a threat it is also important to remember that their GDP is 1/8th that of the US even though they have 4 times the population. It takes a whole lot of ties exported from China to equal one MRI machine exported from the US. The Chinese economy is also bastardized in that there are still a ton of government run industries that bleed money and are subsidized by their private industry. This can't continue forever and their economy will be set back by this.

While I accept that there are counter arguments to much of this, I believe that government intervention in the private sector should be kept to a minimum. We have the strongest economy in the world and I feel it is because of the system that is in place….. a free-market.
 

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FukNRekd said:
LoL. We'll be just fine.

Economics 101: We've been outsourcing jobs for how long now? Yet we are still creating them. For every job that's outsourced, new jobs are created to replace them elsewhere. Changing jobs is a damn sight different than losing jobs.

Unemployement is at nearly record lows (not considering last week, which will have an effect, but that effect will be countered when the rebuilding begins). There's a ton of work out there in many different fields. The only people that are not working right now are the people that don't want to work.

The stock markets are still rising. Gas prices are up across the board, but that is short term, as half the refineries are set to be back up and running in a few days (weeks at most) and we will see lower gas prices, as well as lower oil prices. (The oil price could be a problem if it gets too low, and I predict, with the recent scare, that demand will sharply deminish for oil across the globe, causing the price to drop dramatically to levels we haven't seen in a while.) (BTW, it's nice to see you fuckers paying as much and in some places more than I typically pay for once. :D )

Perhaps you should research things just a bit before you get all butt-hurt over something that isn't even an issue. People change jobs all the time. Learn to adapt or learn to pan-handle.

BTW, many MANY manufacturers are finding the quality of China and the lack of communication capability during the mfg process there less than acceptable. If you're in the industry, and quality is an issue, prepare to start seeing things come back to the US.
I don't come online to argue ecomomics, but I will say this... I think that while you have some interesting points, you're also missing one here. There's a difference in how "losing a job" is seen by older and younger generations. His Dad is probably like my Dad. They chose a job, went to work, and stuck with it to the bitter end regardless of day to day office politics, whether they actualy "liked" the job or not, etc... The mentality of their generation was that people find a job of some sort and work at the same place until they retire or die. On the other hand, my current job is the longest I've ever worked ANYWHERE... at almost five years. I've changed jobs based on money, benefits, job descriptions, fun, and just about everything else. I don't want to lose my current job but if I did my attitude would be like, "Fuck it, I was lookin' for a job when I found this one.". On the other hand, to someone like my Dad, and probably his Dad it would be detrimental to get "cut" after putting in as much time as they've put into their careers. My Dad would find work and move on, just as I'm sure his Dad will if he does't just retire, but he'd no doubt feel betrayed and disrespected if that were to happen to him.

I'm not arguing your pointsl on the economics at all. As I said, I don't discuss/argue politics, economics, etc... online. I'm just pointing out how this could be a much bigger deal to the man involved than it is to you. :wink:
 
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