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Some recent internet articles mention - same chassis, changed internals to put out around 210/215 PS with another 500 rpm to play with. Wings and TFT for sure across the board.
Anyone willing to take a guess on the suspension & brakes? I think they'll stick to Showa BFFs for the base model atleast, calipers might get bumped upto recent Brembo fare (stylemas?).
 

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Some recent internet articles mention - same chassis, changed internals to put out around 210/215 PS with another 500 rpm to play with. Wings and TFT for sure across the board.
Anyone willing to take a guess on the suspension & brakes? I think they'll stick to Showa BFFs for the base model atleast, calipers might get bumped upto recent Brembo fare (stylemas?).
Yup, like this article

 

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Please release the ZX25R to the US.
LOL, Is this a request directed to the moderators on the ZX-10R.net? If so you may overestimate their authority!

I agree, that is a wicked cool little bike. I would likely trade my track bikes for that if there was a CCS class it fell into competitively.
 

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IMO easier to configure the options and just looking fancier. While actually rolling its more of a disadvantage really
Your theory is a good one! In practice, it doesn't work like that. I can guarantee you won't be able to anything on it while moving more than you can now. That's for safety reasons. On the MXK10, once stopped I can go through the menu options to change the traction control settings or power modes that way with a big, nice picture of the bike in full screen. In order to do that, it takes 10 times as many button presses to bring up the menu options, navigate to the menu you want to access, and then make the changes from there. WAYYYY more cumbersome! While the MXK has 4 trip meters that you can enable/disable, resetting them is a royal pain-in-the-ass pressing SEL, down 3 times, SEL, down multiple times to select the trip meter you want, SEL, down to select reset, SEL, up again to Exit, up 3 times to select the normal screen, and SEL to show it. The same applies to the TC menus and power mode changes. That ain't happenin' while moving! You select the TC modes with a single up/down press just like you can now, but it doesn't show anything different on the screen except a quick change on the small number and dashed line under the small icon at the bottom. I think you're expecting more from having a TFT display than you'll actually be getting.
 
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Your theory is a good one! In practice, it doesn't work like that. I can guarantee you won't be able to anything on it while moving more than you can now. That's for safety reasons. On the MXK10, once stopped I can go through the menu options to change the traction control settings or power modes that way with a big, nice picture of the bike in full screen. In order to do that, it takes 10 times as many button presses to bring up the menu options, navigate to the menu you want to access, and then make the changes from there. WAYYYY more cumbersome! While the MXK has 4 trip meters that you can enable/disable, resetting them is a royal pain-in-the-ass pressing SEL, down 3 times, SEL, down multiple times to select the trip meter you want, SEL, down to select reset, SEL, up again to Exit, up 3 times to select the normal screen, and SEL to show it. The same applies to the TC menus and power mode changes. That ain't happenin' while moving! You select the TC modes with a single up/down press just like you can now, but it doesn't show anything different on the screen except a quick change on the small number and dashed line under the small icon at the bottom. I think you're expecting more from having a TFT display than you'll actually be getting.
I meant easier while stopped, since the current screen isnt very responsive. I dont plan on be playing with the screen while riding, unless I happen to grow a new set of eyes lol.

Im unsure if Ill get the aim, its just so pricey. My only expectations of it is nicer aesthetics and the bonus of having the voltage. Im actually worried of loosing the oem rev leds, they are just great and the aim aint so easy to see with peripheral, this goes for the gen6 as well...
 

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I meant easier while stopped, since the current screen isnt very responsive. I dont plan on be playing with the screen while riding, unless I happen to grow a new set of eyes lol.

Im unsure if Ill get the aim, its just so pricey. My only expectations of it is nicer aesthetics and the bonus of having the voltage. Im actually worried of loosing the oem rev leds, they are just great and the aim aint so easy to see with peripheral, this goes for the gen6 as well...
Well, I'll sell you my MXK10 for cheap once I get the new bike! :ROFLMAO: Assuming I like the new one that is.

The battery voltage display you're talking about is utterly useless unless you're racing it. That's why that is only available in "track mode". That rearranges the screen a bit and you loose a bunch of things that are more useful on the street. That's for race bikes that use a total-loss system. You're right about the LED tach though! That is brighter and much more useful than the on-screen display. I wish I still had that.
 
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I like the current dash. Only thing I would have liked is a button to save a setup, but that's available on the race ecu. Do OEM TFT displays even get firmware updates?
 

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Do OEM TFT displays even get firmware updates?
Not unless there's a recall on them! And then you'll have to take it to a dealer to update the firmware for it. Too much liability to issue updates to the average person who doesn't have the capability to plug in and update software and these things and they won't add wireless capability to it or a USB connection.
 

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Not unless there's a recall on them! And then you'll have to take it to a dealer to update the firmware for it. Too much liability to issue updates to the average person who doesn't have the capability to plug in and update software and these things and they won't add wireless capability to it or a USB connection.
Yeah. Not worth the additional cost added to the bikes. Much easier to buy a quality aftermarket unit if desired.
 

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Not unless there's a recall on them! And then you'll have to take it to a dealer to update the firmware for it. Too much liability to issue updates to the average person who doesn't have the capability to plug in and update software and these things and they won't add wireless capability to it or a USB connection.
Well nowadays anything with software has a way to update, it'd be silly of kawasaki to leave motorcycles out of this.
 

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A TFT looks more modern, the clocks on the Gen4/5 ZX-10R were fine when the Gen4 came out in 2011, they look a little clock-work now. I think I’d prefer an analog tacho and LCD on the side, compared to the current arrangement, so long as they added a nice bright shift light.

But, if done right, like the S1000RR, TFT can bring some serious benefits, but I doubt Kawasaki is about to do that. Like GPS for having street-level nav. Phone integration for music and any other control.

I personally have zero need for phone integration, occasional nav via the phone and TFT on dash would be nice. But I’m not everybody, I see and hear of a LOT of people mounting phones to handle bars, playing music while riding. Not my thing AT ALL, but hey, each to their own, right?

I think TFT CAN be much better than what we have right now, not for doing what we do with it now, (on the ZX-10), but in what MORE you could do with it.

I also personally just think it’s needed to modernize the look fo the bike on the showroom floor to be honest!
 
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