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What's your guesstimated average pace you'll be running there? That plays a huge factor, but I'd say it's safe to bank on 1 front and 2 rears. How much experience do you have riding flat out for almost an hour (Which is roughly what you'll get out of a tank)? On our very first endurance, I quickly learned there is a BIG difference between running my pace for a 20 minute session and running it for an entire tank. LOL
Yea thats what I'm afraid of.. I was pretty drained in a 10 lap sprint race so I can only imagine what balls out for an hour will be like.. As far as pace it's hard to say as two of the 3 riders including myself have never run Roebling. I am hoping to run sub 1.20's consistently for duration of full tank. We will learn more during the much needed practice on the 17th.

If anything else, we will have lots of fun and get alot of seat time. This will help dramatically in my sprint races on Sunday. We also don't have a quick fill fuel jug nor a quick change axle. Lol we are behind the 8-ball before we even unload but it will be a great experience and we will learn alot!

I will keep an eye out for the 3 marines team and we are team LPRS Racing. (Look pro, ride slow)
 

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I raced several 1st Gen ZX10Rs, from 2004 through 2010. Great bike, but can be twitchy, and the chassis gets chattery under high speed cornering.

#1 add a quality steering damper!!

Brakes were Ok, I never used anything but an upgraded M/C and lines. Vesrah pads are a must.

Set the suspension up for your weight. Add rear ride height and/or a 190/60 tire. I ran 5mm drop on the front, and a shim in the back.

Be smooth on the throttle. Its the only bike that's bucked me nearly off, through the windscreen at 100 mph. (I didn't crash!)

Lengthen the wheelbase by adding a link or two.

Make sure your starter is shimmed correctly. Its also the only bike Ive blown up three times.

And, yes....It will wheelie in 5th gear at 140mph........
 

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I raced several 1st Gen ZX10Rs, from 2004 through 2010. Great bike, but can be twitchy, and the chassis gets chattery under high speed cornering.

#1 add a quality steering damper!!

Brakes were Ok, I never used anything but an upgraded M/C and lines. Vesrah pads are a must.

Set the suspension up for your weight. Add rear ride height and/or a 190/60 tire. I ran 5mm drop on the front, and a shim in the back.

Be smooth on the throttle. Its the only bike that's bucked me nearly off, through the windscreen at 100 mph. (I didn't crash!)

Lengthen the wheelbase by adding a link or two.

Make sure your starter is shimmed correctly. Its also the only bike Ive blown up three times.

And, yes....It will wheelie in 5th gear at 140mph........
Sounds like some solid advice. What are you riding now?
 

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2017 ZX10RR...... 2014 BMW S1000RR....... 2018 Ninja 400..... I even did a Track day on my S1000R, that was fun too.

I have a whole stable...including an old ZX7R.
 

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I raced several 1st Gen ZX10Rs, from 2004 through 2010. Great bike, but can be twitchy, and the chassis gets chattery under high speed cornering.

#1 add a quality steering damper!!

Brakes were Ok, I never used anything but an upgraded M/C and lines. Vesrah pads are a must.

Set the suspension up for your weight. Add rear ride height and/or a 190/60 tire. I ran 5mm drop on the front, and a shim in the back.

Be smooth on the throttle. Its the only bike that's bucked me nearly off, through the windscreen at 100 mph. (I didn't crash!)

Lengthen the wheelbase by adding a link or two.

Make sure your starter is shimmed correctly. Its also the only bike Ive blown up three times.

And, yes....It will wheelie in 5th gear at 140mph........
Awesome man, what do you mean by chattery? I do have an Ohlins dampner for the steering! I grabbed some street/track EBC pads, I am not going to try to act like a MotoGP racer my first track day lol. Nissin calipers/SS lines/EBC pads are going on.

Awesome advice about the tire to help lengthen gearing, I will try that when I grab tires. I have brand new Shinko road tires on the bike right now that the PO installed. I have heard that 3mm with the front forks work as well? What shim for the back? No idea really how to raise/lower a bike lol. How do I shim the starter? It would not surprise me that she picks up at 140 lol. I know I will be fighting to keep her down.

2017 ZX10RR...... 2014 BMW S1000RR....... 2018 Ninja 400..... I even did a Track day on my S1000R, that was fun too.

I have a whole stable...including an old ZX7R.
Your whole stable is about perfect haha, I want a Gen 5 R for the track/400 to DD and I have always loved the 7R's! I will go with a newer 6R instead of an S1krr unless I start racing WERA as their contingency money is crazy lol. I love my Gen 1 so much I do not want to ever let the bike go even though I have ridden her once. I finally get my tag and all tomorrow!
 

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Also, I cannot use a spool rear stand as the little hole on the left side of my swing arm is missing. Will the pad stands be ok? I do not know if I could weld something on there.

Picked up my lower fairing pieces and am spray painting them Matte Black. I picked them up cheap and since they will see track time I do not care about the road rash on them and my concours-style paint job haha. Jk. Waiting on the fairing bolts to come in and finish paint tomorrow, then go on with it all! Headed to bike week at Myrtle Beach this weekend so I want to presentable lol. Even though it is the wrong bike week for my style bike.
 

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Honestly you're worried about way too much for your first track day. Make sure the bike is mechanically sound - good (new) tires, brake pads, etc. Make sure your gear is good to go. Tape up your lights, and enjoy your first track day. You don't even need to worry about bringing a rear stand if you

1) Still even have a kick stand
2) Don't use tires that require warmers

Enjoy not having to put your bike up on stands and fvkcing with tire warmers each time you come and go from the pit. Enjoy it as long as you can. :D
 

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Me too...

I just did my first track day on my 2004. I bought it a couple years ago and have ridden it occasionally on the street, but it was always intended as a track day toy... so, 1st day out was at the Ridge, in Shelton WA May 6th. The bike was set up for the track by the previous owner with the usual mods - levers, rear sets, can, PC, gearing, chain and steering damper, so nothing to do other than hit the track. What a blast! The Ridge is amazing, the weather was spectacular and the bike ran like a champ. I also rode a 2019 RSV4 Factory which was obviously F'n amazing, but worth about 35K more than my ZX10, and to be honest, no more fun.
 

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Honestly you're worried about way too much for your first track day. Make sure the bike is mechanically sound - good (new) tires, brake pads, etc. Make sure your gear is good to go. Tape up your lights, and enjoy your first track day. You don't even need to worry about bringing a rear stand if you

1) Still even have a kick stand
2) Don't use tires that require warmers

Enjoy not having to put your bike up on stands and fvkcing with tire warmers each time you come and go from the pit. Enjoy it as long as you can. :D
I am as it is my first time going with a bike. I have been to Roebling and other tracks in a car lol. I still have a kickstand and I have some good Michelin Power RS tires. I was going to grab stands but I will wait, along with the tire warmers. If I decide to race one day I will grab warmers.

they all do
It happens lol.

I just did my first track day on my 2004. I bought it a couple years ago and have ridden it occasionally on the street, but it was always intended as a track day toy... so, 1st day out was at the Ridge, in Shelton WA May 6th. The bike was set up for the track by the previous owner with the usual mods - levers, rear sets, can, PC, gearing, chain and steering damper, so nothing to do other than hit the track. What a blast! The Ridge is amazing, the weather was spectacular and the bike ran like a champ. I also rode a 2019 RSV4 Factory which was obviously F'n amazing, but worth about 35K more than my ZX10, and to be honest, no more fun.
Awesome to hear! I am signed up and almost ready to roll. I am getting excited. These bikes modded are crazy and fun.
 

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I am as it is my first time going with a bike. I have been to Roebling and other tracks in a car lol. I still have a kickstand and I have some good Michelin Power RS tires. I was going to grab stands but I will wait, along with the tire warmers. If I decide to race one day I will grab warmers.


It happens lol.


Awesome to hear! I am signed up and almost ready to roll. I am getting excited. These bikes modded are crazy and fun.
What kind of times do cars turn at Roebling? I like to shoot for 18's or below on my 600.
 

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I just did my first track day on my 2004. I bought it a couple years ago and have ridden it occasionally on the street, but it was always intended as a track day toy... so, 1st day out was at the Ridge, in Shelton WA May 6th. The bike was set up for the track by the previous owner with the usual mods - levers, rear sets, can, PC, gearing, chain and steering damper, so nothing to do other than hit the track. What a blast! The Ridge is amazing, the weather was spectacular and the bike ran like a champ. I also rode a 2019 RSV4 Factory which was obviously F'n amazing, but worth about 35K more than my ZX10, and to be honest, no more fun.
Haha funny, I tech'd your bike! I also drooled a little over it missing my black gen 1.

Suggestion: get a brembo/accossato 19x18 brake master cylinder, gen1 mc's don't have bleeder nipples are a pain in the royal arse to get all the bubbles out, zip ties for days sometimes.
 

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What kind of times do cars turn at Roebling? I like to shoot for 18's or below on my 600.
I ran 22-23's in a 275 rwhp Cobra. Most of the fast guys are in the bottom teens. A 500 rwhp C6 Z06 ran 17. I am shooting to be faster than my old Cobra haha.
Haha funny, I tech'd your bike! I also drooled a little over it missing my black gen 1.

Suggestion: get a brembo/accossato 19x18 brake master cylinder, gen1 mc's don't have bleeder nipples are a pain in the royal arse to get all the bubbles out, zip ties for days sometimes.
Ok cool, that work with the Nissin calipers? I grabbed 14R calipers.
 

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Ok cool, that work with the Nissin calipers? I grabbed 14R calipers.
the master cylinder is independent of the caliper choice. generally recommended to go with steel braided brake lines as well to avoid flexing of the lines, the calipers will handle it just fine, just put some good pads in there as well, the ebc hh is a good mid pack and cheap option, vesrah's are twice as much and are better but personally i dont think it's worth the cost.
 

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the master cylinder is independent of the caliper choice. generally recommended to go with steel braided brake lines as well to avoid flexing of the lines, the calipers will handle it just fine, just put some good pads in there as well, the ebc hh is a good mid pack and cheap option, vesrah's are twice as much and are better but personally i dont think it's worth the cost.
I have the SS lines and EBC HH's on the way. The HH's I figure I will run on my first track day and swap things up the next time and use HH's on the street only. Thanks for the information!

I know this is the 10r forum, but did somebody say Cobra?

Sounds like You had a SN95 bodystle Cobra? Correct?
Yes, it was a NASA ex-Time Trial car. Maximum Motorsports suspenion/stock motor with a tune.
 

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I have the SS lines and EBC HH's on the way. The HH's I figure I will run on my first track day and swap things up the next time and use HH's on the street only. Thanks for the information!
I prefer EBC HH's for street/track use. They bite hard and hold, they don't really fade much at track paces, they're half as much as the Vesrah's, they don't squeal like the EBC track pads do which are only marginally better performing, the race pads are great but track only, not great on the street and horrible in the rain. For a fast track pace the hh's are a good deal for price and performance.
 

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I have the SS lines and EBC HH's on the way. The HH's I figure I will run on my first track day and swap things up the next time and use HH's on the street only. Thanks for the information!



Yes, it was a NASA ex-Time Trial car. Maximum Motorsports suspenion/stock motor with a tune.
That's sick right there. I had a mostly stock 96' Cobra that served street duty until someone hit me and totaled it. I'm actually just now able to start back riding my 10r again.

I did my first track day on the EBC HH's and they were fine. I will say that I'm now in the market for something with a bit better feel, I've got a set of Carbone Lorraine's XBK5's on my eBay watchlist right now. Looking forward to seeing how your first trackday turns out!
 

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I prefer EBC HH's for street/track use. They bite hard and hold, they don't really fade much at track paces, they're half as much as the Vesrah's, they don't squeal like the EBC track pads do which are only marginally better performing, the race pads are great but track only, not great on the street and horrible in the rain. For a fast track pace the hh's are a good deal for price and performance.
Good to hear, I researched a good bit and people liked them for not a full track pad. I plan on grabbing a newer 6R to play with on the track if I do enjoy this on bikes and start doing it a good bit. Then I will spend the money on some race pads.

That's sick right there. I had a mostly stock 96' Cobra that served street duty until someone hit me and totaled it. I'm actually just now able to start back riding my 10r again.

I did my first track day on the EBC HH's and they were fine. I will say that I'm now in the market for something with a bit better feel, I've got a set of Carbone Lorraine's XBK5's on my eBay watchlist right now. Looking forward to seeing how your first trackday turns out!
They are fun cars, that sucks that happened man. My dad put the Cobra into the inside tire wall at the bus stop at Daytona and we had to grab a donor car and replace one whole side. Luckily no one was hurt.

Awesome, let me know how those pads work! Thanks man, my Ninja is in the shop for fork seals and I should pick her up tomorrow. Then swap brakes/lines/pads and hit Roebling! I am excited!
 
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