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Hey guys, I just purchased a 2005 10R and am interested in track days to learn my bike. I have run with NASA-SE with cars at places like CMP, Roebling, RA, and VIR to name a few. I have also taken a 6 year hiatus from bikes since I joined the military so a literbike was not my first choice but a deal came up and I scooped the bike up off of FB Marketplace. I originally was looking for a 636 but fellow C6Z owners said I would get bored of it. My toy car is an HCIE/Hi-Ram C6 Z06, so the warp speed/tunnel vision ordeal is not new to me lol. It is the nose comes up at 80 in second that I have to watch for haha.

Anyway, I want to learn my bike and possibly do some WERA racing in the future. What mods do you recommend to a Gen 1 10R?

Current mods: PC3, full titanium exhaust, drop in filter, 520 chain -1 +2, aftermarket rearsets, and speedohealer.

What I want to do soon: ZX14 Nissin calipers/SS brake lines/pads/DJ QS.

The brakes on this thing are NOT confidence inspiring lol.

Also, oil reccommendations? Brake fluid? I run Motul 600 in my cars.

I came from a Ninja 250 and Katana 750 so doing more than normal maintenence I have no idea on a bike. I also do not want to spend a ton either, this will be a DD type bike mostly and if I like tracking bikes I will grab a 600 or another bike.
 

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Zx6r/Zx14r brake calipers, and a ZX6r mc or brembo 19x18 MC. Stainless brake lines and some good ferodo/veshra/carbon lorraine brake pads.
Get the forks and shock serviced and resprung for your weight.

My gen one loves rotella T6 or motul 300v or amsoil 10w40 moto oil or even a blend of each.

Frequent oil changes are better protection than any "premium" oil offers so no need to go crazy.

Its a lot of bike for a novice rider to DD tbh but you do what you want.
Take it to the track it loves it there.
 

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Zx6r/Zx14r brake calipers, and a ZX6r mc or brembo 19x18 MC. Stainless brake lines and some good ferodo/veshra/carbon lorraine brake pads.
Get the forks and shock serviced and resprung for your weight.

My gen one loves rotella T6 or motul 300v or amsoil 10w40 moto oil or even a blend of each.

Frequent oil changes are better protection than any "premium" oil offers so no need to go crazy.

Its a lot of bike for a novice rider to DD tbh but you do what you want.
Take it to the track it loves it there.
Ok awesome, I will keep an eye out for a ZX6R MC. I just keep reading about people doing the more expensive Brembo MC and did not see any use the 6R. Cool on the pads

I will look for a shop to get the forks/shock serviced and resprung.

PO gave me some T6 so I will continue to using it.

I know it is a ton of bike lol, that is why I plan on going to learn. Speed-wise the bike is on par with my Vette it feels like. That does not mean I will go out and act stupid lol.

Thank you for the advice! Gen 1's have too much go and not enough woah:crackup:.
 

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Zx6r/Zx14r brake calipers, and a ZX6r mc or brembo 19x18 MC. Stainless brake lines and some good ferodo/veshra/carbon lorraine brake pads.
Get the forks and shock serviced and resprung for your weight.
This. But I wouldn't advise investing a ton in a gen 1 as a track bike. Its super nervous and the throttle response is such that it makes it really hard to be smooth. Just my own opinion mind you. But I went several seconds faster immediately when I put my gen 1 back on the street and got a 750 for the track. If you do stick with the gen 1 for the track I would really recommend you get suspension work done. Ohlins fork internals and rear shock will help a ton. Best of luck to you on your track day adventures!
 

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This. But I wouldn't advise investing a ton in a gen 1 as a track bike. Its super nervous and the throttle response is such that it makes it really hard to be smooth. Just my own opinion mind you. But I went several seconds faster immediately when I put my gen 1 back on the street and got a 750 for the track. If you do stick with the gen 1 for the track I would really recommend you get suspension work done. Ohlins fork internals and rear shock will help a ton. Best of luck to you on your track day adventures!
I do not plan on spending much on the bike other than the braking system and a few odds and ends. If I do like tracking the bike I will grab a newer or new 600 to play with or depending on skill level a newer 1k. This or the next bike will definitely get Ohlins goodies if I start doing a ton of track riding and/or racing! Thanks man!
 

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Get some good pads and run it! If there is a trackside suspension vendor have them set it up for your weight. Your first few times at the track you will most likely barely be on the brakes. You will get addicted, iv done a few car events and all my buddys run time attack and bikes are way more fun at half the cost lol. Enjoy! give us an update on here after the event.
 

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You are in my neck of the woods and most track days and/or race events we are lucky to have Thermosman at our disposal. One of the best suspension tuners in the country. Look him up. He lives in Woodstock, GA and I highly recommend having him at least revalve and spring your bike if you not spending the money to upgrade.

What tracks are you planning on doing first? May 17th has a N2 track day at Roebling that we will be at if your interested.

FYI, Motul 600 is perfect for fluid. But upgrading brakes will be one of the smartest things to do on that bike.
 

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Get some good pads and run it! If there is a trackside suspension vendor have them set it up for your weight. Your first few times at the track you will most likely barely be on the brakes. You will get addicted, iv done a few car events and all my buddys run time attack and bikes are way more fun at half the cost lol. Enjoy! give us an update on here after the event.
Well I already have 14R calipers incoming haha! About to order pads/lines tonight. Cars are super expensive compared to this. It would of cost me $15k+ this year to run NASA Spec Iron. $1,200 every month for tires to run up front. Bike-wise for the same amount you can run a brand new bike for a full season or 2. I will update!
You are in my neck of the woods and most track days and/or race events we are lucky to have Thermosman at our disposal. One of the best suspension tuners in the country. Look him up. He lives in Woodstock, GA and I highly recommend having him at least revalve and spring your bike if you not spending the money to upgrade.

What tracks are you planning on doing first? May 17th has a N2 track day at Roebling that we will be at if your interested.

FYI, Motul 600 is perfect for fluid. But upgrading brakes will be one of the smartest things to do on that bike.
Awesome man, if I start using my 10R for this a good bit most definitely will get in touch.

N2 at Roebling the 25th it looks like, I can possibly make that one. Nissin calipers are coming and I have a few parts to order! Any cheap riding glove/helmet recommendations? I will be renting a suit/boots my first time or two.

The bike:
Picking up the lower fairing tomorrow. She needs a little TLC.
 

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Well I already have 14R calipers incoming haha! About to order pads/lines tonight. Cars are super expensive compared to this. It would of cost me $15k+ this year to run NASA Spec Iron. $1,200 every month for tires to run up front. Bike-wise for the same amount you can run a brand new bike for a full season or 2. I will update!

Awesome man, if I start using my 10R for this a good bit most definitely will get in touch.

N2 at Roebling the 25th it looks like, I can possibly make that one. Nissin calipers are coming and I have a few parts to order! Any cheap riding glove/helmet recommendations? I will be renting a suit/boots my first time or two.

The bike:
Picking up the lower fairing tomorrow. She needs a little TLC.
Gear is an investment... spend what you're comfortable spending/can afford but remember quality gear will make you both comfortable and protect you. I run A* Supertech gloves, but i've also run their GP PLUS for 10+ years and a set of joe rocket $90 gauntlets, and 2 pairs of Y2Wheels (local glove seller) gloves. The Supertechs are worth it to me... I also wear the supertech boots and GP tech v2 suit with airbag.

I run HJC Rpha 11 PRO its a pretty nice race helmet for what i consider reasonable cost. And have crash tested 3 modern HJC composite shells with good results.

IMO Look at gear as a long time investment you can amortize as you use/wear of the years rather than a single large expense. Higher quality stuff also is more repairable. I have crash tested all of my gear and aside from helmets and cheap cortech boots, it was all re-usable but a few did warrant repair.

This. But I wouldn't advise investing a ton in a gen 1 as a track bike. Its super nervous and the throttle response is such that it makes it really hard to be smooth. Just my own opinion mind you. But I went several seconds faster immediately when I put my gen 1 back on the street and got a 750 for the track. If you do stick with the gen 1 for the track I would really recommend you get suspension work done. Ohlins fork internals and rear shock will help a ton. Best of luck to you on your track day adventures!
When i got my race license i took it on my street gen 1 bike with a fresh suspension and was only a couple sec off my then pace on my gen 4 race bike. Its a capable and fun to ride bike and it does really well in the legacy heavyweight class from my understanding.

Fork/shock service and respring doesn't cost much and will help the stock suspension fade less and work better for trackday riding.
 

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HJC Rpha 11 pro is excellent for the money and just excellent all the way around. I think a 600 or 636 is more fun on the track. I ride both liter bikes and a 636. Personal choice but many agree. Just learn and don’t crash as many newbie do. Have fun.
 

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Gear is an investment... spend what you're comfortable spending/can afford but remember quality gear will make you both comfortable and protect you. I run A* Supertech gloves, but i've also run their GP PLUS for 10+ years and a set of joe rocket $90 gauntlets, and 2 pairs of Y2Wheels (local glove seller) gloves. The Supertechs are worth it to me... I also wear the supertech boots and GP tech v2 suit with airbag.

I run HJC Rpha 11 PRO its a pretty nice race helmet for what i consider reasonable cost. And have crash tested 3 modern HJC composite shells with good results.

IMO Look at gear as a long time investment you can amortize as you use/wear of the years rather than a single large expense. Higher quality stuff also is more repairable. I have crash tested all of my gear and aside from helmets and cheap cortech boots, it was all re-usable but a few did warrant repair.



When i got my race license i took it on my street gen 1 bike with a fresh suspension and was only a couple sec off my then pace on my gen 4 race bike. Its a capable and fun to ride bike and it does really well in the legacy heavyweight class from my understanding.

Fork/shock service and respring doesn't cost much and will help the stock suspension fade less and work better for trackday riding.
Alright, I will look into those brands. I really want affordable and not exactly the cheapest thing lol. I plan on running my Gen 1 for a while and if I do get serious grab a more dedicated bike like a newer 6r.

HJC Rpha 11 pro is excellent for the money and just excellent all the way around. I think a 600 or 636 is more fun on the track. I ride both liter bikes and a 636. Personal choice but many agree. Just learn and don’t crash as many newbie do. Have fun.
I looked into that helmet and it is not bad on the price. If I do a ton of track riding I will grab a 6r and make it a race bike. I plan on taking my time and learning, not big on wanting to crash.
 

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Motul 300v welded the clutch on my gen 1. I'll never use it again. I also don't have anything good to say about RBF. Their are a lot of options. Motul is one I will never use again.
 

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"Awesome man, if I start using my 10R for this a good bit most definitely will get in touch.

N2 at Roebling the 25th it looks like, I can possibly make that one. Nissin calipers are coming and I have a few parts to order! Any cheap riding glove/helmet recommendations? I will be renting a suit/boots my first time or two.

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Picking up the lower fairing tomorrow. She needs a little TLC."[/QUOTE]

I will not be at Roebling the 25th. We will be there on the 17th for practice and race that weekend. The 17th is an open day tho and anyone can ride.

Lot's of good advice on gear already. For a helmet don't cheap out. That's one thing that that can make the difference between life or death. Stay with trusted names, Shoei, Arai, AGV, Bell, etc.. You will probably have to spend $400 or more for quality unless of course you come across a great deal.

Amsoil is also what I run and have been racing with it for over 12 years (sprint cars). The motors cost well over $30K and no issues ever. RBF is also a brake fluid we used for many many years without issue. Not sure why others have said otherwise but I never had any problems.

You can find alot of gear used on forums and ebay. But like I said dont cheap out. If you do you will end up buying better stuff later so why bother wasting the money now. A suit you can save a little money on but dont cheap out on helmet, boots, and gauntlets.

Enjoy the new addiction and take care of your gen 1! Welcome to the club!
 

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I'll be at Roebling on the 17th as well, endurance racing on Saturday and sprints on Sunday.

I raced a '05 for a few years and it's a perform bike for WERA's V8 Heavyweight class. Read through the class rules on the WERA rule book to get you started on what all you'll need. I won the National V8 Heavyweight title in 2017 on my first gen. Missed too many rounds last year due to a PCS, but have since sold my first gen and this year I'm going for it again.
 

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I'll be at Roebling on the 17th as well, endurance racing on Saturday and sprints on Sunday.

I raced a '05 for a few years and it's a perform bike for WERA's V8 Heavyweight class. Read through the class rules on the WERA rule book to get you started on what all you'll need. I won the National V8 Heavyweight title in 2017 on my first gen. Missed too many rounds last year due to a PCS, but have since sold my first gen and this year I'm going for it again.
Are you racing middleweight for endurance? We will be racing a 675R for our first endurance race. I hope we can make it the full 4 hours! lol

I will also be running sprints on Sunday. What classes will you be running? I will have my gen 5 ZX10, the 675R, and a buddy getting his race license with Bargy on R6. If you get time come say hello!
 

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I will not be at Roebling the 25th. We will be there on the 17th for practice and race that weekend. The 17th is an open day tho and anyone can ride.

Lot's of good advice on gear already. For a helmet don't cheap out. That's one thing that that can make the difference between life or death. Stay with trusted names, Shoei, Arai, AGV, Bell, etc.. You will probably have to spend $400 or more for quality unless of course you come across a great deal.

Amsoil is also what I run and have been racing with it for over 12 years (sprint cars). The motors cost well over $30K and no issues ever. RBF is also a brake fluid we used for many many years without issue. Not sure why others have said otherwise but I never had any problems.

You can find alot of gear used on forums and ebay. But like I said dont cheap out. If you do you will end up buying better stuff later so why bother wasting the money now. A suit you can save a little money on but dont cheap out on helmet, boots, and gauntlets.

Enjoy the new addiction and take care of your gen 1! Welcome to the club!
Ah ok, I saw that date and I work the night before and night of and it would be a stretch. I may come watch the weekend though, depends on other plans. I grabbed an AGV helmet with ESE and DOT certifications off of Sport Bike Trackgear and some RST boots that where on closeout. I do not want to cheap out but I do not want to spend over a grand and a half on outerwhere and I have not even done a trackday yet. I am renting a suit the 25th, I have talked to them. I am looking at some gauntlets now. Thanks man and I plan on it!

I do trust Amsoil, I also know about $30k engines. My dang Brodix heads on my LS7 cost way more than my bike did. I run Amsoil and have a local dealer I purchase through.

I'll be at Roebling on the 17th as well, endurance racing on Saturday and sprints on Sunday.

I raced a '05 for a few years and it's a perform bike for WERA's V8 Heavyweight class. Read through the class rules on the WERA rule book to get you started on what all you'll need. I won the National V8 Heavyweight title in 2017 on my first gen. Missed too many rounds last year due to a PCS, but have since sold my first gen and this year I'm going for it again.
Awesome man! I will look into the WERA rules as if I stick with this I would like to race. I am stationed at Shaw AFB so I have a few more years here. If I am open that weekend I may ride down. The open day the 17th I am working unfortunately.

Are you racing middleweight for endurance? We will be racing a 675R for our first endurance race. I hope we can make it the full 4 hours! lol

I will also be running sprints on Sunday. What classes will you be running? I will have my gen 5 ZX10, the 675R, and a buddy getting his race license with Bargy on R6. If you get time come say hello!
Gah I would love a Gen 5 10R, I bet that thing is a blast on track. If I do go into racing and spend more on bikes, that one is at the top of my list.
 

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Are you racing middleweight for endurance? We will be racing a 675R for our first endurance race. I hope we can make it the full 4 hours! lol

I will also be running sprints on Sunday. What classes will you be running? I will have my gen 5 ZX10, the 675R, and a buddy getting his race license with Bargy on R6. If you get time come say hello!
Yep, we (3 Marines Racing) will be racing my ZX6. Good luck on the endurance!
 

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Yep, we (3 Marines Racing) will be racing my ZX6. Good luck on the endurance!
While I got you here...

Is it safe to say we can run one front and two rears for the 4hr race? Our plan is to start with fresh rubber and change only rear when necessary. Also, are you guys only pitting when you need to refuel? That is our plan if no other unexpected issues arise.

This will be our first endurance and we are just happy to get all that seat time and know our pit stops alone won't allow us to be competitive but want to make sure we have a similar gameplan as others.

Sorry, don't mean to threadjack!
 

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What's your guesstimated average pace you'll be running there? That plays a huge factor, but I'd say it's safe to bank on 1 front and 2 rears. How much experience do you have riding flat out for almost an hour (Which is roughly what you'll get out of a tank)? On our very first endurance, I quickly learned there is a BIG difference between running my pace for a 20 minute session and running it for an entire tank. LOL
 
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