[Niner1000RR]

I just recently bought the AiM Solo DL, so far I LOVE this damn thing! I have worked with some AiM stuff in the past (couple years ago on a team doing some AMA stuff) but had some sponsor issues and lost the bike with the data... So didn't get to play with it much.

But having it on my own bike, is ever better because now I actually relate to what had happened in each lap or session.

So just curious if anyone else on here is using the AiM stuff and if you have any tips and tricks maybe we could all share with each other to help us along.

My first attempt at using it was at a trackday a couple weeks ago where I was doing some private coaching. So the data I have as a result isn't very good. But it's still be a LOT of fun messing with it. I cannot wait to do a race with this thing!

I took a few screen shots and pix for anyone that might be interested.

I mounted it through the ignition whole, works great there. Easy to see while riding.

Track map overlayed onto google earth, doesn't line up perfectly, but it's helpful... Wish it was more accurate though.

 

[Niner1000RR]

Wow no one on here?

 

[SkyDork]

I'm on here! :ayyy:

But I wish I could help you with that! Looks pretty darn sweet though the data that can be captured by it. Might have to look into one myself. :wink:

 

[realpsi]

Do you have it capturing ecu data? If so how is it connected?

 

[dricked]

I have one but as of now it's and expensive lap timer. I'd need someone in the pits to translate and show me where I can fix things and relay what needs to be changed on the bike to a crew chief. Might sell mine and get the regular Solo.

 

[Niner1000RR]

I'm on here! :ayyy:

But I wish I could help you with that! Looks pretty darn sweet though the data that can be captured by it. Might have to look into one myself. :wink:

lol I know you guys are here, I just thought more people would have one and respond. I would HIGHLY recommend it! I think the damn this is AWESOME!

I wish I could have sprung for the EVO though, then you can have potentiometers and brake pressure sensors which would be awesome. But for twice the price, no thanks...

Do you have it capturing ecu data? If so how is it connected?

I do, that's the best part. I bought the bike specific cable, it plugs in to a plug that sits behind the dash. Without that capability, I wouldn't have bought it.

I have one but as of now it's and expensive lap timer. I'd need someone in the pits to translate and show me where I can fix things and relay what needs to be changed on the bike to a crew chief. Might sell mine and get the regular Solo.

You have the SOLO DL and don't use it? It's not really that hard... Hook that bitch up! I'll gladly help you get it set up. Reviewing the data is actually pretty easy. You can zoom in on sections, corners, etc... and pick things apart.

I'm doing some coaching this weekend, but I am going to have one of our top locals take my bike out for a session, just because I want to see some data from him to overlay with mine for comparison purposes.

For example, you can take a particular corner, zoom in and turn stuff on. I can turn on the "LEAN ANGLE" measurement. Then I can look at a few things. 1.) How long did it take for me to get from upright to full lean? Once at full lean, how long did it take for me to pick the bike up? Then how long did it take me to get pinned?

Or look at how smooth you are at max lean, either the lean angle or TPS.

So far, I can't get on myself too much, I was riding around in intermediate with a stupid, as you can imagine, there is some nasty looking stuff on the data! LOL I'll post up some more screen shots. But hook that thing up! (assuming you have the cable to connect it to your bike!)

 

[dricked]

It's hooked up and working but I just can't really benefit from it. I'd need someone else's data to overly with mine to compare. Right now it just shows me information. I've got data in my suit too, it just showed me how fast I crashed my brains out at lol.

 

[dricked]

Double post

 

[Niner1000RR]

It's hooked up and working but I just can't really benefit from it. I'd need someone else's data to overly with mine to compare. Right now it just shows me information. I've got data in my suit too, it just showed me how fast I crashed my brains out at lol.

Did you look at the "Split Report" and compare data from 2 different sessions with differing splits?

That's one good way to evaluate yourself when you don't have anyone elses data to compare with.

The "Split Report" shows all your segments (however you have them set up) and will identify your best splits. This way you can compare any 2 (or more) laps against each other. Zoom in on a particular split to see why one was better than another...

Just a thought, although if you wanted to sell it, I'm sure there are a lot of people who would be willing to pick it up!

 

[realpsi]

How does it compare to Woolich logging? Do you get more parameters?

 

[Niner1000RR]

2 different things really. The Woolich logs engine related data, but doesn't allow you to see where and when it happened.

The AiM data allows you to see where and when it happened on a map. You can click on a point on a track map then look at a graph of say "TPS" and it will tell you what your TPS was at that exact spot.

It's completely different way of logging it.

 

[or10r]

Wow, that is super sweet. That's an incredible tool to help you get better. Gonna have to put that on the need list for the next track bike.

 

[Niner1000RR]

Absolutely! From what I see, they are REALLY popular on Karts too... Just sayin... lol

So you're familiar with PBIR, so check this out. I don't have any data from anyone else to compare to (yet...) so I have just been looking through my data to see what stands out. Now keep in mind, this was in intermediate, so traffic is the cause of some craziness... lol But it shows up on the data. This was a 1:27 lap, so not fast but can't wait to see it from a race.

As you can see at the top, this is turn 4 and 5.

Look at the bottom graph, lean angle. Realize that 0 (on the left) is obviously straight up and down. Anything above 0 is right and anything below 0 is a left (you can flip them if you wanted to).

If you look at T4 and T5, you can see I was NOT smooth through there at all, with all sorts of bobbing and weaving. Now, I know why in this case (there are so really bad riders in intermediate lol) but I could look at that and see that I need to commit to the corner and be far smoother. Now look at the TPS graph, look at where I come out of T8, long straight, right? You want to get to pinned as quickly as you can (from when you open the throttle), what's with the dips I have there???

I can change the graph to overlay them ontop of each other, turn on the TPS and both wheel speeds and I can see a spike in the rear wheel speed.

The rear tire spun up and it startled me, I let go of the throttle. Normally this wouldn't have bothered me, but when you're riding around in intermediate, you aren't expecting that! LOL But I can see where I made a mistake and need to correct it!

Never would have even thought about it had I not had the data, right?

 

[Niner1000RR]

Here is a video using the data from the SOLO.

I used RaceRender to sync the video. They aren't syn'd perfectly... There's is a bit of an issue with how quickly the video vs the data works together. So you have to adjust the "playback speed" to get them right. I didn't spend a whole lot of time messing with it considering it was an intermediate session. lol

But it was good for playing with the options.

So I added the following:
Speed both analog and digital. Min and Max holds
Tach both analog and digital. Min and Max holds
Gear indicator.
TPS bar (graphical bar and numerical)
Brake bar (you can't have brake pressure sensors with the Solo, but I think I can make the long_acc apply negative entries to the brake pressure bar to at least give an idea)
Lean angle both analog and digital (added min and max holds but they didn't work, I need to look at that.
The Accel/Decel uses the "Long_Acc" input to gauge.
G-Force graph with numerical output and a lap timer log that shows the current lap and highlights the best lap.
And a track map with the GPS speed highlights over the map. Red being the slower sections, green being the faster sections.

 

[Duhastme]

Here is a video using the data from the SOLO.

I used RaceRender to sync the video. They aren't syn'd perfectly... There's is a bit of an issue with how quickly the video vs the data works together. So you have to adjust the "playback speed" to get them right. I didn't spend a whole lot of time messing with it considering it was an intermediate session. lol

But it was good for playing with the options.

So I added the following:
Speed both analog and digital. Min and Max holds
Tach both analog and digital. Min and Max holds
Gear indicator.
TPS bar (graphical bar and numerical)
Brake bar (you can't have brake pressure sensors with the Solo, but I think I can make the long_acc apply negative entries to the brake pressure bar to at least give an idea)
Lean angle both analog and digital (added min and max holds but they didn't work, I need to look at that.
The Accel/Decel uses the "Long_Acc" input to gauge.
G-Force graph with numerical output and a lap timer log that shows the current lap and highlights the best lap.
And a track map with the GPS speed highlights over the map. Red being the slower sections, green being the faster sections.

PBIR FTD (Int) test with Data - YouTube

Great video, did you change your gopro setup? There seems to be more vibration this go around and chatter, maybe the chatter is from the solo :dontknow:

Alot of cool information on there, would be cool to see a brake pressure reading to see where you start breaking and how hard. Also is there a min max hold value for the readings you have displayed? Like can you have it hold on the video the max g's pulled? lean angle?

Good looking video none the less as well as pretty darn cool to see the data overlay. Gotta keep clear of that traffic they were boggin you down hard out there :notworthy:

 

[Niner1000RR]

Great video, did you change your gopro setup? There seems to be more vibration this go around and chatter, maybe the chatter is from the solo :dontknow:

Yea, I had been using the "Ram Mount" style, but it loosened up, so I just stuck a stick on mount to the triple clamp, it turned out that the base I had in my case was a knock off of some kind. So it didn't fit really well. That's why you get the vibration. I've since tightened the RamMount so that should be solved. And now that I remember, I'm going to go order a few GoPro bases.

Alot of cool information on there, would be cool to see a brake pressure reading to see where you start breaking and how hard. Also is there a min max hold value for the readings you have displayed? Like can you have it hold on the video the max g's pulled? lean angle?

Yea, I'd like to have the brake pressure too, but that would require moving up to say the EVO. Which is twice the cost of the SOLO. Say $1,400 vs $700. But then you could do suspension pots too... But I just can't afford that. So I'll go with what I got. lol

I have the min/max "holds" on there. But they aren't working for lean angle. They work for the speed and tach. So I'll have to look into that a little more. Not sure how the hold would work for the g-force since it's not 2 dimensional...

Good looking video none the less as well as pretty darn cool to see the data overlay. Gotta keep clear of that traffic they were boggin you down hard out there :notworthy:

lol That won't happen until next month when we race at Homestead. I was in intermediate to work with a few students. So I really didn't have much of a choice. But it was still neat to see it.

I am coaching out there again this Sunday, I'm going to make Dwyer take my bike out for a session, just so I can look at the data and see how it differs. We have similar riding styles, he's just WAY faster! lol

 

[aapulask]

AiM has an engine data logging option. Different model, but with a cable it allows to plug into port under passenger seat (street) or port near dash (race).

 

[Niner1000RR]

AiM has an engine data logging option. Different model, but with a cable it allows to plug into port under passenger seat (street) or port near dash (race).

That's the SOLO DL, that's what this is.

 

[Niner1000RR]

The SOLO just does laps times, that's it. Current lap, best lap, etc...

The DL adds the data logging. It logs the following data:

 

[or10r]

Really nice to see lean angle and tps together like that. You can definitely see the little changes in both during 4 and 5. Btw a 1:27 in intermediate traffic is good I think. You better be on your toes when your riding in the meat grinder that is intermediate! Lol. I did see a few guys using them in the last kart race I did. REALLY nice over the long haul to see lap after lap in real time how your times are. It was a 6 hour race so consistency really mattered. I had to rely on really poor signaling from the pits. Lol.