Nah, mine's a Gen3 with 30mm Tokico. Over here some refer to yours the 'batman' Nissin.
The 2 pad design will give extra bite. You need those calipers more than I do.
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The 2 pad design will give extra bite. You need those calipers more than I do.
Yeah I thought gen 3 calipers were an upgrade too. These are 4 pad, did I get the wrong ones?
Those are the correct ones. Each side takes 2 pads, that makes 4 pads per caliper, and a total of 8 pads for front wheel.
They're practically brand new.
At the car dealership if we have to replace rotors or machine rotors under warranty they will not cover brake pads, scuff them up and reuse them.
These will be fine.
what pads are those?
My guess is OEM
I didn't say I wouldn't change them out later. I just want the front brake to actually work at this point. And I'll evaluate from there
Judging from the sight of that thin metal backing on the pads, you might be right they are Nissin stock pads.
Those are HH sintered pads too, so please take note as you remove them for sanding/buffing before actually using them. Presuming you are going to do it.
Waiting for your feedback on how much better these new calipers are, in terms of lever reach, linearity, and initial bite. Initial bite is how much feeling you get when feathering the brake lever.
Those are HH sintered pads too, so please take note as you remove them for sanding/buffing before actually using them. Presuming you are going to do it.
Waiting for your feedback on how much better these new calipers are, in terms of lever reach, linearity, and initial bite. Initial bite is how much feeling you get when feathering the brake lever.
I'll let you know. I want to do just these calipers and pads first and see the difference it makes. Then I'll do pads, lines, master cylinder if I need too. Lines will be a must though since the original rubber lines are already over 15 years old.
It's going to be cold all week, with the exception of Friday, so I may take these to work Thursday with my front and rear stands and then ride in Friday and replace them Friday night at the shop
Right now initial bite doesn't happen until the lever is pulled in at least 50% of the way, and that's after bleeding them. I have the lever adjusted all the way out at it's furthest position right now and it's a reach for me to even grab it
I just installed new Vesrah pads - they are about twice as thick as those old clunkers. Also received new (radial) mc so will have mc, braided lines, calipers, pads and DOT4 installed by the weekend.
New brakes require a bed in process (repeated stops from say 60 mph with cool down period between, but never come to a full stop) so I won't know about hard stop performance for awhile, but I'm sure it will be night and day
Initial bite on the stock brakes was non existent
Also adding Toby steering damper (as a precaution). The Ohlins steering damper on the Gen 2 is weak but you can ship it out to be rebuilt (new oil etc) for alot less than new
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New brakes require a bed in process (repeated stops from say 60 mph with cool down period between, but never come to a full stop) so I won't know about hard stop performance for awhile, but I'm sure it will be night and day
Initial bite on the stock brakes was non existent
Also adding Toby steering damper (as a precaution). The Ohlins steering damper on the Gen 2 is weak but you can ship it out to be rebuilt (new oil etc) for alot less than new
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I was told that the stock stabilizer was "crap" when I took possession of my '06. I had nothing to compare it too but it seemed to keep the front pretty much under control except on really rough surfaces WFO. Had to run it about three or four clicks out to feel comfortable. While at the WERA...
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I like the way you make progressive changes and measure/evaluate the effects of every bits.
Some people do not, but nothing is wrong either way.
Is your MC the radial or axial type?
Extreme initial bite I have experienced was on a Brembo system, which immediately stopped the bike while I was doing a slow U-turn, and I dropped the bike.
My Gen3 initial bite is sooner than your description, but the lever travel is more than desired. I am contemplating moving to 17mm or 18mm MC.
Yeah, the 'never come to a full stop' while bedding in new brake pads is very important.
we should plan for it, find a suitable time and place to get this done.
Kind of surprised it needed a rebuild (even with it sitting a long time), did the previous owner indicate what was wrong with it?
I bought a new one for $200, mainly because I wanted to upgrade from linear (19 mm though)
I will say I noticed what appeared to be a gel like substance in my old master cylinder that was probably just congealed old fluid. The fluid had been flushed by the dealer before I bought the bike, too
Plenty of issues crop up when these bikes sit for years!
I bought a new one for $200, mainly because I wanted to upgrade from linear (19 mm though)
I will say I noticed what appeared to be a gel like substance in my old master cylinder that was probably just congealed old fluid. The fluid had been flushed by the dealer before I bought the bike, too
Plenty of issues crop up when these bikes sit for years!
Came across this page: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER – OEM Parts Make A Difference
@Gen101 19mm is the new MC or the stock one?
@Qwank seems to be stock Nissin HH pads as I presumed. Looks like the seller or somebody rattlecan sprayed the caliper, presumably, and brake fluid will strip that paint easily. Though I wouldn't mind the appearance as long as it works perfectly.
If you think the MC feels dodgy then I'd ask someone I trust to take a look. Sometimes we cannot describe our hunch or feeling when something isn't right, so I can only say perform due diligence to address it. Nothing is more important that being able to trust your ride.
@Gen101 19mm is the new MC or the stock one?
@Qwank seems to be stock Nissin HH pads as I presumed. Looks like the seller or somebody rattlecan sprayed the caliper, presumably, and brake fluid will strip that paint easily. Though I wouldn't mind the appearance as long as it works perfectly.
If you think the MC feels dodgy then I'd ask someone I trust to take a look. Sometimes we cannot describe our hunch or feeling when something isn't right, so I can only say perform due diligence to address it. Nothing is more important that being able to trust your ride.
Sitting is the worst thing for any vehicle. Now we have these low mileage bikes that need everything replaced. 😡
Luckily the previous owner seems to have taken care of mostly everything last summer, I'm so glad he replace the tires because that one job I'd have to bring it to a shop for, we can't do motorcycle tires on our tire machines. I think he let the new battery die over the winter though because it isn't holding a charge past 3 or 4 days. So I'll need a new battery too. Not a big deal though. I'm used to buying a used car or truck and dropping $2,500 - 3k in parts into it, so this is nothing so far.
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