[mappy2112]

hey all ! Just put my new EBC rotors on the bike. these are high carbon stainless steel lasercut and double disc ground for ultimate flatness ! these are comparable to Galfer wave rotors but cost half as much for the same technology and materials.:idea::thumbsup:

I also got EBC double H pads -you don't want to set up new rotors with used pads ! cleaned the calipers/pistons and flushed the fluid through the reservoir and lines till it came out clean!

 

[LDH]

Bro you are going to hate those piece of shit made in Chaiwan rotors...

First thing that is going to happen is the ultra sharp non-chamfered edges are going to eat through every brand of decent brake pad you consider putting on them. Once you get past about 3 or 4 different sets of pads and the rotors start to dull the the edges you will realize that the metal is not up to anything more than riding around from stoplight to stoplight at the legal speed limit. If you ever have to use them at proper track pace expect them to burnish like crazy and boil your brake fluid when you need them the most.

Oh & HH EBC pads suck ass like nothing else
http://www.rogueracing.org/hrcpads.htm

 

[Bigunz]

Now.. don't hold back and tell'em what you really mean. :spit:

 

[Clint Beastwood]

I agree on the ebc hh pads sucking big time I couldn't stand them. Not enough bite for me and I ended up tossing them in the trash.

 

[ZX10RArcher]

Hahaha Chaiwan.

LDH® You're my new best friend haha. Chaiwan hahaha.

The best pads I've used lately were the Carbine Lorraine's. A track buddy of mine turned me onto them.

As far as performance stuff goes; you don't want to skimp out. Cosmetic stuff you can usually get away with. Performance stuff, especially something as important as brake rotors you don't go cheap on.

A friend of mine ordered Chaiwan-ese drilled/slotted rotors for his car years ago. On two separate rotors, the cracked and broke a chunk off; like a quarter of the rotor. There's a reason performance stuff costs a premium; the time and effort that went into R&D and testing as well as using top notch materials.

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[trebor27]

Wow... Such hate! Lol.... EBC stuff is reasonably regarded in the UK a LOT of people use their stuff...

This is the first time I've seen such venom against them!

:spit::spit:

Never used EBC myself though tbh!

 

[Cowboy 6]

Yeah... stop the hating. It's German steel and they come from England. And, I know you street guys are the pros and know it all but EBC has brought our team to 8 road race championships....

PS... I love watching "high initial bite" guys dump it in the rain as soon as they touch the brakes.... maybe you should read a different magazine to form your opinions?

 

[SkyDork]

The EBC Pro race pads are supposed to be top-notch from what I hear. But the HH pads are junk. They are noisy, dusty, and have little stopping power. OEM pads are better. I had EBC pro-lite rotors years ago on my ZX-7R. Didn't like them either. I'll run their pads on the rear only, cause I never use the rear.

Good luck to the OP, hope they meet your needs and work out for ya.


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[NinjaLife]

Wow, didn't know everyone hated ebc so much.
I threw on ebc hh sintered pads in my calipers when I did the swap and I have no complaints.

 

[LDH]

Yeah... stop the hating. It's German steel and they come from England. And, I know you street guys are the pros and know it all but EBC has brought our team to 8 road race championships....

PS... I love watching "high initial bite" guys dump it in the rain as soon as they touch the brakes.... maybe you should read a different magazine to form your opinions?

Watch your tone. I'm a professional test rider, track instructor and suspension tech and I would much rather hang out with a bunch of street riders who are willing to learn than some douche who thinks he knows everything and enjoys watching others crash their bikes in the rain.

 

[nakedinseattle]

tried a few different brands of pads, ebc/dp hh pads on the street work fine, ebc extreme pro work good at the track, hard bite, fade is always consistent, lasts half a season a set, cheap as hell, can't complain.

 

[Cowboy 6]

Watch your tone. I'm a professional test rider, track instructor and suspension tech and I would much rather hang out with a bunch of street riders who are willing to learn than some douche who thinks he knows everything and enjoys watching others crash their bikes in the rain.

I'm supposed to watch my tone but you call names? Nice double standard.

And I never said I know everything. Only stating that the EBC bashing was unwarranted and in some cases outright lies such as your "Chaiwan" claim. Also only intended for some to think about whether or not they want all that "initial bite" the magazines love to write about.

But hey Mr. Pro, you're too cool for me, I'll shut up now and defer to your awesomeness.

 

[LDH]

I'm supposed to watch my tone but you call names? Nice double standard.

And I never said I know everything. Only stating that the EBC bashing was unwarranted and in some cases outright lies such as your "Chaiwan" claim. Also only intended for some to think about whether or not they want all that "initial bite" the magazines love to write about.

I didn't call anyone names. You took it upon yourself to assume that meant you which is pretty telling.

You need to watch your tone because you seem to think that just because the majority of members on this forum are street riders that for some reason they are beneath you. Additionally, taking enjoyment in the misfortune of others is just plain wrong.

Initial bite is a very good thing as long as you practice proper braking technique. That is after all why 4 pad calipers were created. 4 leading edges on the pads offer more initial bite than 2 leading edges. Granted not everyone knows how to do it properly, but rather than taking delight in those people who make mistakes and crash why don't you take the time to educate them on why increased initial bite can work against you or enlighten them on proper technique.

But hey Mr. Pro, you're too cool for me, I'll shut up now and defer to your awesomeness.

Now that's the most helpful thing you have stated yet.

 

[tyler_sti]

I'm ready to learn ldh ;-).... I've think I tried the ebc hh on my old gen 1, nothing special, decent daily pad. Honestly I've been using the stock pads on the gen 3 with good results with heavy canyon riding. I threw on some entry level(found out after) galfer pads my local shop had laying around, wow, those are horribal. No bite what so ever, not even linerar, just no stopping power, even for daily city riding.

 

[SkyDork]

I'm ready to learn ldh ;-).... I've think I tried the ebc hh on my old gen 1, nothing special, decent daily pad. Honestly I've been using the stock pads on the gen 3 with good results with heavy canyon riding. I threw on some entry level(found out after) galfer pads my local shop had laying around, wow, those are horribal. No bite what so ever, not even linerar, just no stopping power, even for daily city riding.

I rank galfer pads about the same as the standard EBC ones....suck. The OEM pads are actually quite good in fact. If you really want an upgrade from them, Vesrah SRJL-17s is what you need. Hands down the best pad. Can't go wrong with Carbon Lorraine either though.

Once you run one of these types of pads, you'll understand how bad the others are. If all you've ever run are the EBC ones, you won't know the difference and you'll probably be fine.


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[TechX]

The SRJL pads are over kill for street use. You cant get them hot enough to work their best. If your racing or doing track days only then those are the pads to use. Just get the RJL pads their cheaper and work really good for street use and will last longer than the SRJL's

 

[trebor27]

Over react much LDH? I don't think Cowboy 6 actually meant he genuinly ENJOYED watching others fall off!

You do seem unreasonably venomous over EBC products for some reason, I'm sure you have good reason, but you are simply not getting it across!

A lot of people swear by ebc, but I have heard people say OEM are better, one reason why I never bothered with them personally, I tried Bendix RR, I think, pads in my track 636, life wasn't as good as OEM, but I heard and expected that, and by golly did they create a LOT of brake dust!

Rob

 

[trebor27]

Incidentally from EBC's website!

EBC Brakes are made in one of its two specialist factories in the UK and USA. The majority of EBC brake discs or brake rotors are also made in the UK.

 

[SkyDork]

The SRJL pads are over kill for street use. You cant get them hot enough to work their best. If your racing or doing track days only then those are the pads to use. Just get the RJL pads their cheaper and work really good for street use and will last longer than the SRJL's

:bs:

In terms of braking, there's no such thing as overkill. A ZX-10 by itself is overkill for the street.

I run the SRJLs on the street and track. They don't require "heat" in them to work properly. Not really sure where that info came from. The regular RJLs are a great pad as well, but I prefer the SRJL feel. And they are fantastic from the very first pull of the lever in the morning.


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[TechX]

:bs:

In terms of braking, there's no such thing as overkill. A ZX-10 by itself is overkill for the street.

I run the SRJLs on the street and track. They don't require "heat" in them to work properly. Not really sure where that info came from. The regular RJLs are a great pad as well, but I prefer the SRJL feel. And they are fantastic from the very first pull of the lever in the morning.


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Yea that's what it boils down to use what you like and what works for you that's what I do. I use the Galfer Superbike rotors with their 1375 pads huge improvement over stock rotors with any pads made.