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It's no wonder folks are bleeding the unemployment benefits for all they can! We've now got places offering salaries that would match what one would take in just sitting home and collecting! I've been in the industry for over 30 years and it's just amazing what kind of salaries are being offered! I've been cut down to 32 hours a week and haven't seen a salary increase in 4 years...this is why I'm putting feelers out for employment in my field but it's just CRAZY what they're willing to pay someone with soo much experience! I could understand a few bucks less but at least a 40 hour work week....but they are offering salaries that were offered over a decade ago!


"...hence the reason for reduction of quality and disdain between employees and employers.. the workers honestly don't give as much as they used to, being as there's no incentive anymore... lousy salaries..no salary increases, heavier workloads, more responsibilities, etc... make for a depressing work ethic.. those of us who have given all to try and obtain the American dream all of their lives have been shafted in the end and the owners are the only one's who can sleep well at night knowing they can pay a helluva lot less for thrice the amount of work... After 30 years of giving it my all, I have nothing to show for it but less hours and no advancement but also now take on the duties of others just to keep food on the table. I used to just operate the press.. now I do all bindery, all janitorial services, Have more knowledge than even my employer when it comes to the mechanics of the machines in the shop while he just lives a decent life and I'm just trying to survive... No appreciation for the over productive, underpaid worker anymore! Just telling it like it is from mine and thousands of others' perspective! The owners are thriving by using the "economy" as their reason for such actions. Many lives have been ruined and the workers are the one's living in poverty and have to pay the price.. either that or live on unemployment for a while.. either way, we're screwed! I don't know about you but the majority of Print shop owners are still enjoying the fine things in life while the hard working laborers are just trying to keep a roof over their heads! Forget about the days when a pressman can buy a decent car, house or other normal "luxuries" that our predecessors with 30+ years of experience used to be able to in the past.... No pensions or 401k's anymore.... no dreaming of retirement...ever... anymore. When I was younger, I remember being told that a press operator had a secure and safe future... maybe not upper class, but a safe and secure job... In order for the owners to live comfortably, they take advantage of the present situation and only give a crap about their own profitability... The new saying is" if you don't like it then leave" which they well know won't happen because the the employee can't collect unemployment, let alone find and honest and fair employer! I hear many a horror story from other press operators and paper delivery men. My boss just bought an new: house, car, motorcycle, etc... and eats out every night...but, according to him, we're hurting! I'm now taking on the jobs of 3 workers we used to have and with much less pay! WHO'S GETTING THE SHORT END OF THE STICK? This is why we are looking at such high unemployment levels!"
 

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Well put. Its not just your industry, the working class backbone of America is becoming downtrodden. We watched our parents work hard and enjoy a comfortable life, now we struggle to see the light at the end. The "bailouts" have simply catered to the wealthy while creating a bigger burden for the working class and our children.
Back to the grindstone ........
 

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That sux! It's kinda like being a modern day slave? You're doing all that work to make someone else rich an live more comfortable. I heard that the "elite class" designed things that way? It's not really meant for you to get ahead, but to be stuck on the hampster wheel? :idea: :dontknow:
 

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Holy crap - that reminds me tomorrow is Monday and I better get to work. There are millions of people on govt programs who are relying on me to work!

Agree with you flapjak! Salaries are the same (or going down) and we see stuff in the supermarket going up and the packaging is shrinking lol..

Edit: I have a close relative who similarly worked the past 30 years or so and was cut back to 30 hours, then 20 hours, then laid off (company went out of business). He just received a job offer, and it was a good job, but decided his unemployment benefits, extended to 2 years, was better for him, and he can probably retire with early social security in 2 years. When I separated from the military and was jobless during '86 recession, unemployment was only 3 months, and we had to prove we were job interviewing to receive a check.
 

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STurner i assume you are not referring to people on unemployment.......


Flapjack i know what you mean, so many people are being purely taken advantage of now. I really hope that sometime soon the tide changes and workers get some rights back.

I have been unemployed since November, granted a lot of it has to do with where i live currently. I have transitioned from my old job of being an auto tech of 15+ years into management. I however cant find a job doing either, the best offer i have had is a part time job making $8.25 an hour as a technician. Again though i live in a small town in the deep south, and im not from "around here" and that matters. Dont get me wrong though, im not complaining, it is what it is and im surviving. Going to school and getting a degree, and moving someplace that has work in a couple of days.
 

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I hear ya. I got laid off about a year and 1/2 ago from a aircraft tooling shop. Non union so not much I can do. But what they did was lay off approx. 150-160 workers than wait 6 months. and hire about the same amount of new guys at $9-10 hr. vs. the $16-22 hr. of the guys that got laid off since the market was flooded with people looking for jobs. And to try and please the guys they laid off they said we can come back at $12 hr. but have to drive to another shop location which is a little over an hours drive. By time I pay gas and day care I would be paying to go to work.
 

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STurner i assume you are not referring to people on unemployment........
I said "govt programs" b/c I believe unemployment is a good thing - it saved me and my family from living on the street. It was 3 months at the time and I was fortunate to get a minimum wage job to pay the rent.

I investigate state fraud (Medicaid, etc.) and know there's a lot of folk on welfare who don't need to be including those who never worked.
 

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I said "govt programs" b/c I believe unemployment is a good thing - it saved me and my family from living on the street. It was 3 months at the time and I was fortunate to get a minimum wage job to pay the rent.

I investigate state fraud (Medicaid, etc.) and know there's a lot of folk on welfare who don't need to be including those who never worked.
Yes, unemployment is a good thing. Unfortunately, as someone mentioned earlier, you have too many people trying to live off it who could actually have a job. They decide it is "better for them" without regard to the taxpayer and average citizen. So just like medicare and medicaid fraud, there is unemployment fraud as well. It is a shame there is so many who actually need it that it is impossible to police all the ones sponging from society.

I am also aware that there are greedy rich people out there, but i'm sick of how so many villify success nowadays too. Rant over.
 

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Yes, unemployment is a good thing. Unfortunately, as someone mentioned earlier, you have too many people trying to live off it who could actually have a job. They decide it is "better for them" without regard to the taxpayer and average citizen. So just like medicare and medicaid fraud, there is unemployment fraud as well. It is a shame there is so many who actually need it that it is impossible to police all the ones sponging from society.

I am also aware that there are greedy rich people out there, but i'm sick of how so many villify success nowadays too. Rant over.
+1 Well said - but there are many who totally disagree with this, e.g.

 

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I said "govt programs" b/c I believe unemployment is a good thing - it saved me and my family from living on the street. It was 3 months at the time and I was fortunate to get a minimum wage job to pay the rent.

I investigate state fraud (Medicaid, etc.) and know there's a lot of folk on welfare who don't need to be including those who never worked.
Stick it to em, lazy bitches.
 

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I hear ya Flapjak, My wife has an accounting degree and is working for $12 fucking dollars an hour. Her boss fly's his lil plane around being rich and no other business owners are gonna pay the same wages that were fair 6-8 years ago. I completely understand someone sticking with unemployment instead of taking a pay cut to actually work 40 hrs a week.
 

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I hear ya. Please don't kill me...but I just got a dollar/hour raise. Unfortunately, I still feel like I could be cut back to half-time at any second. It sucks no doubt...but I am just going to keep saving and scrimping. Keep your heads up boys...it will get better. (I hope)
 
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