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i used to love motogp but it is seriously loosing it luster. WSK however is more and more fun to watch. I think it has alot to do with the riders and new bike.
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I beg to differ. The MotoGP drama has an elder champion fending off the attack of young upstarts. With 4 guys capable of winning. have you been watching the latest last lap battles between Rossi and Lorenzo?
WSB is just as intriguing. A little over a half a dozen points separate Spies and Haga. Haga recently injured and having his best shot ever as World Champ. No my friend, Its a great time for racing, just wish the AMA / DMG would get its act together.
 
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What they really need to do to make it fair, and all teams competitive is alow prototype chasis, and all teams have to use production based engines, tuned to whatevver level they can. That way at least all teams have acces to the same amount HP.
 
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I beg to differ. The MotoGP drama has an elder champion fending off the attack of young upstarts. With 4 guys capable of winning. have you been watching the latest last lap battles between Rossi and Lorenzo?
WSB is just as intriguing. A little over a half a dozen points separate Spies and Haga. Haga recently injured and having his best shot ever as World Champ. No my friend, Its a great time for racing, just wish the AMA / DMG would get its act together.
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MGP is great this year, very exciting.
Both series are awesome this year.
 
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Deer Elk said:
2 strokes... Ummm. No thanks. Those bikes were beasts though! :thumbsup:

:+1: on getting rid of traction control. I'd also like to see launch control gone as well as wheelie control gone.



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Problem is they cannot police the electronics, teams would cheat. only way to go there would be to pull all the electronics and go back to carbs, no one wants that. I guess you could use sealed production ECU's, but seriously MGP is supposed to be the pinnacle of technology.
 
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Problem is they cannot police the electronics, teams would cheat. only way to go there would be to pull all the electronics and go back to carbs, no one wants that. I guess you could use sealed production ECU's, but seriously MGP is supposed to be the pinnacle of technology.
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True. But isn't that what F1 did starting last year... Or have the teams already found a way around this?



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to me when motogp was all 2 strokes I think it was way more fun to watch. I think the 2 stroke engine is way under rated. with new advancements like variable compression ration and direct inject oiling there way more powerful while being super fuel effect. with the same funding you will always be able to get more power out of a 2 stroke that a 4 stroke if the displacement is the same. the only reason you don't see 2 strokes making a big come back is cause the bike and car companies invested so much is 4 stroke that it would cost a ton to start making 2 strokes again. and why build 2 engine type when you can build 1.

Look at lotus. there new 2 stroke concept is there fastest car to date while being cleaner and more fuel efficient that a prius. 2 stroke is a great platform that has a bad rap wrongly. I wish the big for would start making modern day 2 strokes. with electronics they could make them more ridable and predictable. and would make for great gp racing. But I know my hopes for it are a pipe dream.
 
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I have really enjoyed Moto gp this year personally. I hate to think of the continual adjustments of rules to bring parady though. Will we end up with another AMA situation where Buell has been granted special priveledges? Im not saying this would happen in moto gp, I just feel like they should let those that want to spend money to win in that arena go at it. If you want to win it takes more than money, dont ask Micheal Jordon. Its clear to me that Suzuki wants to win in AMA by what they do with Mladin. Yamaha spends their $ in WSBK and Moto gp. KTMs have a huge presence in the 250 class of moto gp. Kawasaki USED to have Bubba Stewart representing. I guess my point is that things should be fair without trying so hard to level the playing field that you actually put some teams at a dis-advantage. Does that make any sense or am I just blabbering?
 
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Not sure what to do with MotoGP. If they would have just left it with the 900cc bikes that would have been good but I think with the economy the way it is there would have been just as small of fields as there are now. There are many things that could be done to make it more affordable but if they really want a prototype series it will always be expensive. The proposed 1000cc engine for non-factory teams is good but as soon as they start winning races Dorna will kill that idea quick.
 
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Not sure what to do with MotoGP. If they would have just left it with the 900cc bikes that would have been good but I think with the economy the way it is there would have been just as small of fields as there are now. There are many things that could be done to make it more affordable but if they really want a prototype series it will always be expensive. The proposed 1000cc engine for non-factory teams is good but as soon as they start winning races Dorna will kill that idea quick.
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They dropped the displacement for safety. Once they started reaching speeds over 210 they knew they had to do something. However with the way technology keeps moving, the 800s are faster. pedsroso did 217 at Mugello. They say that if the 990s were still around they would be around 225 mph or so.
Maybe they will go to 600cc next? Combine MotoGP2?? Hope not.
 
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They dropped the displacement for safety. Once they started reaching speeds over 210 they knew they had to do something. However with the way technology keeps moving, the 800s are faster. pedsroso did 217 at Mugello. They say that if the 990s were still around they would be around 225 mph or so.
Maybe they will go to 600cc next? Combine MotoGP2?? Hope not.
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Pedrosa did 209, not 217.

The idea of MotoGP getting 1000s, banning carbon brakes, etc, etc, is STUPID. Other than tires, engine size, and a few others, there should be NO rules. Its the premier class and prototype bikes. You either spend massive $$$ to compete or you don't. If money is what it takes, let the richest team win.
 
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