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Maybe some of you military guys can offer my daughter some suggestions.

She is being unmercifully sexually harassed in the Army...

Some background, she is the best senior intelligence analyst in her unit, she scored a 93 on the tests, and is a Sharpshooter - can zero her rifle in 6 shots...she is the only person in her Company with a BS degree and will soon have her Master's in military strategy...she has been gold coined by a 3 star MI general...and she is cute...they are going to send her to Master Intelligence school in Arizona and I guess she will be the lowest ranking soldier they have done that with...

She has been in for a little more than a year...

She has had ALL the senior officers hit on her - married or single - doesn't matter...she has talked to her commander who demands she give him names and she said she told him he would lose more than half his officers if she did...

Just last night, she was out drinking with some friends, an some guy comes up to her table to announce that he heard she took it in the ass from three guys Friday night....

She has had officers give her material to proof read, and she finds out it is pornography....

She has had 2 am spot inspections where they check only her...

And on and on....

She is seriously considering asking for a transfer to another unit...

Her commander told her he is going to promote her to sergeant, but she has to stop complaining about the sexual harassment stuff...

I told her that is the Army way and she needs to learn to detach from it...
But it really seems to be wearing her down...

Any suggestions...
 

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My stepdaughter is in the Army as long as your girl and she said she gets hit on all the time from superiors. When she came back home in transit going to her next station she had to report to her Recruiter an E-7 married and she said he wanted to go out with her.

She’s now in Iraq so don’t know how it’s going there, but yeah it does seem to be a problem with Army as far as controlling Fraternization.:badteeth:
 

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hey Steve good to know u have a bright and good looking girl, ive seen those kind of things when i was in the army, and no she cant give names and mention anything to superior officers, she has to deal with it herself.
she has to be tough and always " cut off " the conversation when it comes to some kind of harassment....and speak only the necessary with those guys...sooner or later they will see shes not interested!!!! cause in the army snitches are not welcome...just my opinion here!
 

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Actually it is a damn shame that she has volunteered to fight for freedom and the American way of life, and she is treated this way by superiors. Army or another branch it is unacceptable, sucks that if she "speaks up" she will likely be blackballed from a promising future and if not she will continually be subjected to the mental anguish. Good luck Steve, hope all turns out well.
 

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as a military member myself, i'm ashamed to say that kind of stuff does happen and what's worse, if the person does decide to come forward, it will follow them everywhere they go, especially since she works with some big dogs. There really isn't much advice I can give you, my branch deals with things a lot differently than the army, I hope everything works out for her.
 

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I don’t know what the equivalent is for the Army but in the Air Force you can always go over your Commanders head by contacting the base Inspector General. They would have to do an investigation and have power beyond the Commander as they report only to the Pentagon.
 

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The Army has an Equal Opprotunity Program (EO for short). The Army's take on it this is: 1st the soldier should address the individuals stating that they are uncomfortable with the comments or actions. The individuals should stop. 2nd, if the actions don't stop the soldier is to take the complaint to the unit's EO rep (each company has one) or they can go to the Battalion or Brigade Rep. Everything should remain private unless she goes the formal route and it goes into an investigation. If they do this they can either make a formal complaint which will start a whole alot of paperwork and will address the individuals involved by name or they may chose to make an informal complaint which basically keeps things kinda general with no specific people named. From there the issues are put into the hands of the Commander of the unit. The commander will then decide if the complaint is valid and then take action. That is just a simple one over the world of the EO program. It can get pretty indepth. Also there are other programs in place outside of the unit that she can turn to if she feels that her unit is unjust. But basically she can talk to her EO rep and they can give her advice on what to do. I hope this helps. If you have any more questions PM me and I will get with the smart people for some answers.
 

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MI units are a little weird. Tell her to get herself one of the little Sony digital recorders. Baggy BDUs are a perfect place to keep one of these little jewels. She can keep it on all the time or flip it on when the need arises. Wait 'til the creep finishes his proposition the play it back for him and watch the look on his face.
 

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Im a E7 Senior Drill Sergeant in the Army, tell your daughter to go to her EO Representative in her unit. If she cant find the one in her unit, go to another unit near by and talk to that one. He or she can get the ball rolling and on top of which can protect your daughter from the Bullshit she's about to go through. It will be resolved and she will eventually see she did the right thing.
 

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swjohnsey said:
MI units are a little weird. Tell her to get herself one of the little Sony digital recorders. Baggy BDUs are a perfect place to keep one of these little jewels. She can keep it on all the time or flip it on when the need arises. Wait 'til the creep finishes his proposition the play it back for him and watch the look on his face.



:+1: that's a good way to get thier attention!!!
 

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rated zx said:
Im a E7 Senior Drill Sergeant in the Army, tell your daughter to go to her EO Representative in her unit. If she cant find the one in her unit, go to another unit near by and talk to that one. He or she can get the ball rolling and on top of which can protect your daughter from the Bullshit she's about to go through. It will be resolved and she will eventually see she did the right thing.
:+1: rated zx put it a lot better then I did. The regulation that covers sexual harrassment is AR 600-20. She can find that section on page 52.
 

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As an Active duty Soldier in the Army, let me try to give you some advice.

Older Guy said:
She has had ALL the senior officers hit on her - married or single - doesn't matter...she has talked to her commander who demands she give him names and she said she told him he would lose more than half his officers if she did...
This happens all the time in the Army. Married or not, some people just don't care.
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Just last night, she was out drinking with some friends, an some guy comes up to her table to announce that he heard she took it in the ass from three guys Friday night....

She has had officers give her material to proof read, and she finds out it is pornography....

She has had 2 am spot inspections where they check only her...
She needs to document EVERYTHING that happens. If she has any friends that aren't scared to speak up, that will also be helpful.

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She is seriously considering asking for a transfer to another unit...
This is not as easy as it sounds. There are a lot of people that are involved with making that decision. Have her contact her branch manager at DA and see if anything is available.

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Her commander told her he is going to promote her to sergeant, but she has to stop complaining about the sexual harassment stuff...
Her Commander can't hold that over her head for promotion. Promotion to E-5 is based on a point system. If she has attended the promotion board and meets the point requirement then she has to be promoted. If they fail to promote her they MUST provide a legitimate reson why she was not promoted. That is a complaint for the I.G. (Inspector General) if they try to hold the harassment allegations over her head.

She needs to stop wasting time with the Commander and file a formal EO complaint with her unit EOR (Equal Opportunity Representative). If that doesn't get results then she needs to go to the EOA (Equal Opportunity Advisor). The Army's policy on sexual harassment is ZERO TOLERANCE, and nothing will happen unless a formal complaint is filed with the proper people who I mentioned above.

Hope this helps.
 

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I just spoke with her and she said she has done all of this....she claims they won't do anything because she won't name names...She had a meeting with her EO rep and the Squadron Commander....and 3 married 1st sergeants that sit on her E-5 promotion board have hit on her...she says she doesn't know what to do...if she names names, the people will get reprimanded and nothing will change...now, she claims they are not directly harassing her, but are coming up to her with gossip they have heard....witness the guy's comment about her taking it in the ass Friday....he didn't suggest it, now everyone is saying stuff to her that they "heard" it...I told her as far as I am concerned it is still harassment....she said she would write up something for me to post to you guys...

She said in her meeting with the EO rep and squadron commander, they drew two big circles on the board very far apart and said "one is reality" and "one is your perception"...

Sounds to me like none of these guys are taking this very seriously....and want her complaints to go away...

She did complain to Congressman Boxer and the other one, and I guess the base Commander then said they'd promote her...but knock off the harassment complaints...
 

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Older Guy said:
I just spoke with her and she said she has done all of this....she claims they won't do anything because she won't name names...She had a meeting with her EO rep and the Squadron Commander....and 3 married 1st sergeants that sit on her E-5 promotion board have hit on her...she says she doesn't know what to do...if she names names, the people will get reprimanded and nothing will change...now, she claims they are not directly harassing her, but are coming up to her with gossip they have heard....witness the guy's comment about her taking it in the ass Friday....he didn't suggest it, now everyone is saying stuff to her that they "heard" it...I told her as far as I am concerned it is still harassment....she said she would write up something for me to post to you guys...
She needs to go to the IG(Inspector General), like I said they have more power than anyone on that base and anyone that tries to cause harm to her for going to the IG will face strick punishment including the Commander.
 

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luis.pita said:
yeah....and after she will have a even harder time......
they will revenge on her...
Do you mean a "Code Red"?
 

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Guys...I'm sorry...NO WOMAN in the military service should hear how "She took it in the ass by three guys" in front of her friends...

If that is the state of our current military, we need to be whupped badly...
 

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like if she complaints bout her Commander or any other big dog, she will have a hard time as soon as the IG is not around....
and they will do everything to get some revenge on her......sorry its how i see things.
 

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Older Guy said:
Guys...I'm sorry...NO WOMAN in the military service should hear how "She took it in the ass by three guys" in front of her friends...

If that is the state of our current military, we need to be whupped badly...
i know it really sucks bigtime, :headshake :headshake
its usually just some assholes, we cant say all the institution sucks.....theres bad apples everywhere Steve
 
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