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Looking to do either a lock, convertible, slider clutch set up on my boosted get one. Wanting to no everyone's in put what would be the best option to make big power but can be street road also.

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I'm in the same boat here, so i've done a little research that I can add:

Street driven = NO slider

...aside from that, lockups are great if you can find one for a gen one..... I think Hays is the only fellow who does it these days. A 'Convertible' clutch is really just a clutch that you can configure as a lock up or slider (or hybrid of the two) to suit your needs.

I have no idea what your idea of 'big power' may be, but heavy springs in a stock assembly can handle a lot for street duty.... generally more than you can use on surface roads. The billet basket upgrade would be wise, and heavy springs in a stock hat would work great outside of a competition environment... as long as you aren't limp-wristed or have carpal tunnel problems.

If you can afford it, the convertible clutch can be set-up pretty much any way you like, so that would be the way to go. Did you try giving Tim a call and discussing your needs/set-up and see what he recommends? Turbo Tens are a bit of a rare bird, and you won't get much better advice here than you would from him, most likely.
 

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I'm already a boosted bike that I done this year looking to make around 450 to the ground but heard his set up can't handle much of a beating bc I was leaning his way

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450 to the ground, eh? That should be interesting.

I've never heard a bad thing about those clutches, or that they couldn't hold that power.... the only static I've ever heard is people just not knowing how to set them up. Honestly, it's a moot point.... no one makes a clutch for these older 10r's anymore but him. But honestly, a stock clutch can hold a 15psi without issue (with springs, of course)... I highly doubt that his billet basket lockup would have trouble with 450. Hell, I'd bet you lunch that you are going through transmissions faster than clutches at that power level.

If it were me at that power level, I'd run that clutch with a lot of static spring for street duty and enough weight on the arms for lockup around 8-9K.... chances are the motor is coming on to boost threshold right about then. At the track you could take some of the static out and tune it like a regular slider or lock-up.... though I wish you luck with that much power!
 

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The luck wasn't for your hard parts, it's for tuning a multi-arm clutch. If you aren't a borderline genius, you'll want to budget some time with a professional clutch tuner.

...but I am curious what you've done to the transmission to have absolute confidence in it while 'beating it' @ 450 hp. I need some of that goodness!
 

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If your street riding the lockup clutch you will find its hard on the fiber plates. Especially if your using oem fiber plates. My 360 horse nitrous dragbike would destroy the inner fiber after 2 0r 3 passes. I went to Barnett kevlar fibers and that solved the problem. Your clutch pull will be very heavy which could get very tiring on the street.
 

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That's exactly why I made this post. Trying to hear everyone's input on the best set to go with.

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real street drag racing bikes are limited to billet hubs, inner and outer, can change friction, steels, spacers, springs, and clutch activation must remain stock. top real street turbos are bumping 190 mph in the 1/4. as far as street, wont be ur clutch slipping, easily have more clutch than any tire can hold there. 450 hp anticipated? share more details about build and who built/tuning this monster. forget real street, ur talking all out competetive 200 mph pro street in a 1k at that power level.
 

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See I talked to a few people that said hays set up was awesome at first but they can't handle a beating. idk if this is true or not never ran one of his or no anyone that has.

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Well, I haven't run one personally, but I DO know that you can break anything if you set it up wrong or beat on it without regard to mechanical sympathy. That said, I AM buying one when I have the cash saved up.... there's just not a better option out there, price be damned.

Dudes could be lying through their teeth, but there was more than one person on there going on about using that clutch for years without issue. Who knows? If you feel that way, just get a billet basket and updated rivets and be done with it.... a few 60-70lb springs in the hat and it'll hold for street duty. And in a few K miles of stop'n'go traffic you get this added bonus:
 

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I think Spaz has the right Idea put a billet hub in with heavier springs and perhaps Barnett Kevlar fibers and it should holdup pretty damn good.
 
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