Kit ECU resource thread

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moto316

Discussion Starter · Dec 13, 2017 (Edited)

Figured I'd start a thread dedicated to sharing resources and findings associated to the Gen5 Kit ECU and harness. Let's keep this DEDICATED TO KIT ECU ONLY. I don't want this thread getting cluttered up with questions about how you can map the Kit ECU values to your woolich system. It doesn't work like that.

v1.0, v1.01, v1.03, v1.10 (expert program) : for 16-18 ZX10R kit ecu's
v2.0 : for 19-20 ZX10R kit ecu's
v3.0 : for 2021 ZX10R kit ecu's

For now I'll start it off with sharing the v1.00, v1.10 software, service manual and calibration manual pdf's:

16_ZX10R - Google Drive

2019-2020 v2.0 software and FI calibration manual: 20_ZX10R - Google Drive

Later on I'll be posting about my findings trying to make the cordona analog strain gauge sensor work with the Kit ECU:

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morpheusro

· #41 · Mar 27, 2019

That is why i asked if you are using a map or are you on default?
Another question is: can you describe as best as you can the weirdness of the idle? Is it when hot? Is it on cold? Always? Misfire?
Then we might find out what is going on. Maybe post a short video with the sound it makes.

tonyugoh

· #42 · Mar 31, 2019

I had the chance to test out the engine braking and that was the cause of the bike cutting off just from rolling off the throttle. I increased the engine braking map from 1 to 3 and problem solved. The engine braking map 3 felt like the old 1 to me. I didn't have to change the bike setup too much and it didnt feel like I was free rolling into the corner either.

bbsteinnewyork

· #43 · Apr 1, 2019

I am using the 2019 kit and the first part of the throttle seems smooth and then I have a bit of a flat spot and then the power comes on strong again. The air fuel is spot on 13.1 in the flat feeling area. Does anyone else have this issue?

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bbsteinnewyork

· #44 · Apr 5, 2019

Well I just purchased the Ftecu update to the Kit ECU. I think I see why it feels flat in the mid range. I'll test it on Sunday

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Neonmarine

· #45 · Apr 6, 2019

I didn’t know they did that?

bbsteinnewyork

· #46 · Apr 6, 2019

Neonmarine said:
I didn’t know they did that?

Yes they do. It's really nice. All the base mapping is exposed and the KRT settings are separated. It makes it really easy to work with. I wired the ftecu active tune to the Kit wireharness. It made making a base map really fast and in addition I added the Aim MXS 1.2 dash. Ftecu's software pushes additional data channels to the Aim data logger.

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Neonmarine

· #47 · Apr 6, 2019

Very cool, I’m not gonna trust myself with making adjustments just yet, so I’ll have my tuner do it at the track until I get used to the bike again. Good to know you can do stuff like that though.

KenR

· #48 · Sep 5, 2019

Spurious Fault Codes

Has anyone
found a way to access changes on the dash when a fault code is already flashing? Our Kit ecu is giving an exhaust servo code 34, and being a race set up there is no exhaust servo, and we are told the ECU should not recognise a Servo Fault code. The flashing fault is preventing us changing maps or doing other changes.

Vonstallin

· #49 · Sep 7, 2019

great thread....
I am about to buy and build my Gen 5 into my race bike for 2020.

KRT KIT
AIM MK10 Dash
and more.,..
Did not know that about the FTecu... might see how the kit stuff looks then debate on adding that.

ANy screen captures of the KRT software set up?

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giszo

· #50 · Sep 16, 2019

What changes does the "1.10 Advanced software" bring on top of the original software that comes with the Kit ECU?

Already ordered the 1.10 CD at my local dealer, but it still takes one and a half week to arrive, and I am really curious.
If anyone has the documentation about the changes in a PDF or such, could you please e-mail it to me?

moto316

Discussion Starter · #51 · Sep 17, 2019

giszo said:
What changes does the "1.10 Advanced software" bring on top of the original software that comes with the Kit ECU?

Already ordered the 1.10 CD at my local dealer, but it still takes one and a half week to arrive, and I am really curious.
If anyone has the documentation about the changes in a PDF or such, could you please e-mail it to me?

The most drastic difference in my opinion is the revised engine braking strategy. It is much more intrusive in the higher engine brake settings to the point that it was actually killing the engine while blipping at idle. You can find all the info on the 1.00 and 1.10 software here, as well as service manuals, etc. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wjI9Q2zW4G5pDYlI_xQZJWYopdprU-oj

moto316

Discussion Starter · #52 · Sep 17, 2019

bbsteinnewyork said:
Yes they do. It's really nice. All the base mapping is exposed and the KRT settings are separated. It makes it really easy to work with. I wired the ftecu active tune to the Kit wireharness. It made making a base map really fast and in addition I added the Aim MXS 1.2 dash. Ftecu's software pushes additional data channels to the Aim data logger.

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Do you have to have the stock dash plugged in still to retain the TC button controls? I really want to get rid of my chrome plus dash and move the MXS but as of several months ago that was one of the limitations with the Aim, it required the stock dash to still be present to retain the TC/EB/Power mode controls.

giszo

· #53 · Sep 17, 2019

moto316 said:
The most drastic difference in my opinion is the revised engine braking strategy. It is much more intrusive in the higher engine brake settings to the point that it was actually killing the engine while blipping at idle. You can find all the info on the 1.00 and 1.10 software here, as well as service manuals, etc. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wjI9Q2zW4G5pDYlI_xQZJWYopdprU-oj

Thanks! :notworthy: Will give it a go at a local dyno to have a basic setup before going to the next track day.

Do you know whether it is still possible or not to go back to the v1.00 version of the software and have those settings that I currently have, in case of something is not working as it should with the newer v1.10?

Vonstallin

· #54 · Sep 17, 2019

moto316 said:
Do you have to have the stock dash plugged in still to retain the TC button controls? I really want to get rid of my chrome plus dash and move the MXS but as of several months ago that was one of the limitations with the Aim, it required the stock dash to still be present to retain the TC/EB/Power mode controls.

Are you saying that you can not use the after market buttons/switches with the AIM dash?

https://www.bikesportdevelopments.co.uk/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BD_SW_3BX_11A

bbsteinnewyork

· #55 · Sep 21, 2019

giszo said:
What changes does the "1.10 Advanced software" bring on top of the original software that comes with the Kit ECU?

Already ordered the 1.10 CD at my local dealer, but it still takes one and a half week to arrive, and I am really curious.
If anyone has the documentation about the changes in a PDF or such, could you please e-mail it to me?

The new software allows more adjustment in the offsets of maps. Other than that everything is the same.

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bbsteinnewyork

· #56 · Sep 21, 2019

Vonstallin said:
Are you saying that you can not use the after market buttons/switches with the AIM dash?

https://www.bikesportdevelopments.co.uk/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BD_SW_3BX_11A

If you use the AIM MXK10 the switches work. If you use the MXS1.2 you need the FTECU flash delete to make them switches work

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moto316

Discussion Starter · #57 · Oct 6, 2019 (Edited)

giszo said:
Thanks! :notworthy: Will give it a go at a local dyno to have a basic setup before going to the next track day.

Do you know whether it is still possible or not to go back to the v1.00 version of the software and have those settings that I currently have, in case of something is not working as it should with the newer v1.10?

Yes, make sure to save the v1.0 map file and don't overwrite it when going to v1.10. The software doesn't allow you to have both versions installed simultaneously. Easy way around this is to set up a Windows 7 VM using VMware Fusion/Workstation and take a snapshot of the VM on v1.0, then uninstall it and install v1.10 and snapshot that. This is what I do with VMware Fusion on my Macbook and I can go back and forth between snapshots within seconds if I need to try something between versions.

Lanister

· #58 · Oct 7, 2019

bbsteinnewyork said:
If you use the AIM MXK10 the switches work. If you use the MXS1.2 you need the FTECU flash delete to make them switches work

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What does "FTECU flash delete" do with respect to making switches work with MXS1.2?

bbsteinnewyork

· #59 · Oct 10, 2019

Lanister said:
What does "FTECU flash delete" do with respect to making switches work with MXS1.2?

Sorry that's dash delete

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moto316

Discussion Starter · #60 · Dec 6, 2019

Newf said:
The kit ECU flash will be coming soon as the 2019 FIM Superstock regulations change so that teams have to run standard ECU. So, everyone will have to switch to something similar to what BMW have been doing with the HP Calibration kits. Wouldn’t doubt the 2019 zx10 gets an updated ECU.

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Looks like they didn't go down this route, new kit ecu part number for 2019 zx-10r/rr: 21175-1540

Adjustable ECU with CD

<div>Adjustable Racing ECU optimizes adjustability for fuel, ignition timing, over rev, auto shifter, traction control, launch control plus 22 other parameters</div><div><ul><li>Comes with CD and requires Adaptor Cable (57001-011) and Main Harness (26031-2113), sold separately</li><li>Fits...

www.kawasaki.com

still uses same kit harness and PC cable as 16-18 though

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