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The R1 threads got me thinking about the different literbikes (and even that Duc 1198) with regards to the owners. If you had to guess, what percentage or ranking of owners (by bike) ride their bikes hard enough to make any real judgements about the bikes. I'm not talking about hardcore racers, just people that atleast ride reasonably hard at the track (or even some illegal but hardcore street riding).

My guess, by rank order (not rank like a Harley rank...)

Harder Ridden bikes percentage wise:
ZX10
1198
Honda
GSXR
R1
Least bikes percentage wise ridden hard
 

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On the street? Move the 1198 way down.
 

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1198 probably at the bottom (too expensive), I can't see much reason for the others to be much different.

But, it's a question of degree. What do you mean by "real judgments"? Many qualities don't require "hard riding" in order to assess them. Other qualities will become apparent only under the most extreme racetrack conditions and are simply impossible (or completely irresponsible) to assess on the street.
 

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I'm more thinking about percentage of bikes sold. That is, of the 1198 sold, how many of them end up ridden really hard versus ZX10 (and those others). Whether it be street, track, or both (or neither). I know a lot of Duc are latte getters.
 

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1198 probably at the bottom (too expensive), I can't see much reason for the others to be much different.

But, it's a question of degree. What do you mean by "real judgments"? Many qualities don't require "hard riding" in order to assess them. Other qualities will become apparent only under the most extreme racetrack conditions and are simply impossible (or completely irresponsible) to assess on the street.

Very well put.....

Out of all the posers, eh, I mean post'ers on this forum, there are but a few I put any stock in what they say. And you, my friend, are definitely one of those that help move the 10 to the top :eek:ccasion1
 

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1198 probably at the bottom (too expensive), I can't see much reason for the others to be much different.

But, it's a question of degree. What do you mean by "real judgments"? Many qualities don't require "hard riding" in order to assess them. Other qualities will become apparent only under the most extreme racetrack conditions and are simply impossible (or completely irresponsible) to assess on the street.
Too serious! Just having a little fun. As for real judgments, some things are obvious sooner, some are beyond my skill level. But, again. Just playing a little.
 

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I will say that, out of all the bikes that I see ridden hard, the 10 owns the greatest %.

It also seems to have the riders of the most common sense. Myself not included, lol.
 

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If you had asked a related question, "which bikes have the smallest percentage of squidiots riding them" then the Honda, Kaw, and Duc are in a different league from gixxers and R1's from what I've seen!
 

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there is a guy that rides palomar mtn often on a desmosedici rr that is real fast, i like to ride fast through the corners and that guy just rides with serious disregard.

but i would agree that most duc owners are fake then gsxr owners and then everyone else
 

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Kawasaki-only people that know how to ride
Honda-people that try to ride
Suzuki-luck enough to even stay a float and get threw first gear haha

Naw jp but in the sense of bikes that I've seen thrown around more I give it to suzuki, every squid shuttle and a half ride one and ride the piss out of it and never change the oil or lube a chain, they thing if it turns on and goes there good. But honda's I really dont see a lot of down my way in less its a brand new one and 80% of the time its some fresh guy popping out of a cracker jack box saying I have money and they say lets go get a bike. I dont know this is really a hard question to answer because its really based around a riders opinion and every rider is different, if that makes sense!!!
 

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The trends in these bikes are weird, as alluded to by many. GSXR's are common (maybe the most common) racebikes/trackbikes, but they are also the most common squid bikes. Duc's are great trackbikes and I see them at every trackday, but I also see them as latte getters frequently. I don't see many R1's as trackbikes or racebikes, but maybe that is just my area. However, I do see a lot of R1 squids. I do see a lot of serious riders riding CBR's, and like somebody said "trying to ride them hard." And, in the end, I have never personally seen a squid on a 10 (pictures don't count, they were/are all photochops done by jealous GSXR/R1 owners), but I have seen a lot of 10's (and other Kawi's) being ridden hard.
 

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yeah I dont think I have ever seen one squid on a kawasaki, maybe one or two but nothing serious. I rode the shit out of my honda basically tell it fell apart, but it wasnt my fault haha, the bike was a piece and I had to have the engine rebuilt twice so0
 

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yeah I dont think I have ever seen one squid on a kawasaki, maybe one or two but nothing serious. I rode the shit out of my honda basically tell it fell apart, but it wasnt my fault haha, the bike was a piece and I had to have the engine rebuilt twice so0
Well, by the look of your photo, it appears that you are either a giant or need a bigger bike:lol:
 

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In my area (Coast of Mississippi) 10R's are rare. I see Gixxers and CBRs & R6s.

I in no way claim to be a track skilled rider or be able to ride the 10 to it's top

capability. I have been riding a looong time and I am a damn good rider.

But most of the guy's that I see riding or try to ride with me, are squids.

They think if you twist the throttle wide open on a straight road and don't

crash, then their good riders.

I haven't found anyone that can keep up with me when I really jam on it in

the twisties.
 

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Thats why I put it on here, your the first to take notice lol. Its a small kawasaki pocket bike!!! Yeah man finding a solid riding buddy is far and few between, when you find someone that can stay with you thats your buddy!!! I yet to find a good one that can hit the strip or go out for some track days or just zip around town and hit some roundabouts ect
 
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