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How to ride a motorcycle on street and live and have fun.

Defense
1) Always pay attention to where you are and who is around you.
2) Always pay attention to intersections, i.e. roads that will intersect with yours.
3) Always try to head check left or right depending on lane position before travelling through an intersection so you can manuever in your lane to make you more visible and provide an escape route.
4) Always try to maintain the greatest visibility of the road in front of you.
6) Always head check before changing lanes, or doing anything stupid. Mirrors are a necessary evil and lead to very bad habits, and I profess a lot of accidents!
7) Always know you will make someone upset with agressive maneuvers.
8) Never physically piss someone off, i.e. the finger, slapped mirror, etc.
9) Never get in front of someone you have pissed off and ride slow - just keep going and even pick up the pace to get away from them.
10) Never confront someone you have pissed off. A car will ALWAYS defeat a bike in a physical altercation.
11) If you feel uncomfortable in any situation, the best defense is a good offense.

Offense
1) Ride agressively, stay 5 to 10 mph above flow of traffic (5mph is what most US states recommend.)
2) Do not let yourself become surrounded in a wolf pack, get out as soon as the safest opportunity presents.
3) Accelerate when changing lanes, always assume the person in the lane you want is going faster than you.
4) Change lanes to make yourself more visible as necessary.
5) Same as defense, always head check before making any sudden move.

Edit to Add: The street is impossible to master, the variables involved are too great, but each of us as individuals can boost our own safety and security by maintaining a superior skillset. A skillset not just on street, but in connecting with people. For example, when I pass through intersections with a vehicle waiting to turn in my path, I give them a wave. A thank you for seeing me, and waiting for me. They love this - trust me.
 

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All good. I can add a few things. First, must be totally dialed into the bike; that means have to ride everyday with majority of miles on empty tight turn stuff in rural area pushing limits BUT inside comfort zone. Never lose patience; if unable to do whatever that normally is done then go into calm wait mode. Next, know every aspect of your route. Next, read the road! Look what cagers do in certain areas and adjust in future while always reading current situation to adjust accordingly. For instance, in three city areas of my 200 mile loop I know that cagers leaving a mall have to often cut across three lanes to make an intersection. I look for them and chop. Often they hear or just see my speed change and safely make their turn. A couple other places just like this occur, both near freeway exits. Read the road. Riding is not a race and is not a pace unless no one around. In rural areas I run hot when zero traffic. BUT if oncoming I reduce speed and if I'm catching someone I again reduce speed. I never pass anyone at high speed; just ease past and ease back into the pace. The loop is a true Christian mystical experience.
 

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I luv Scout!I use to have trouble understanding some of his threads but after time a worked out if you turn your screen upside down but make sure the screen is locked first bingo!clear as day and everything makes sense!your a legend mate and just hi on life ay.......
 

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I luv Scout!I use to have trouble understanding some of his threads but after time a worked out if you turn your screen upside down but make sure the screen is locked first bingo!clear as day and everything makes sense!your a legend mate and just hi on life ay.......
ROFL! :rotflmao:
 

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More offense, less defense.
What does more offense mean on the street with other people that don't give a sh*t about you?

I'm not trying to chide you, I would like to know your honest thoughts on what you mean.
 

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Lol, but wat? Today did my loop after viewing snow on Mt. hamilton but temp was 47f and knew the road was without black ice. Snow all over the place; as I floated the 10r i totally appreciated the snow on both sides of the road and the stupid sand ON the road laid done by Cal Trans. Figured if I didn't chop I'd make it ok. All good. Pace not that stellar but one of the best loops ever. I'm still floating right now after doing a bunch of crap around the house upon reaching home. Weather here is in beginning Spring mode; and we our rain level this year was toward the upper end but well within normal range. About 21 inches for my place. Translation: rode less than a 12 loops the entire winter up to this date. The '13 10r has near of just over 62,000 miles.
 

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Hi Scout hope your well!Scout I noticed you have "Twisties"for your whateva you call I.D icon!do you guys get Chicken Twisties?if you do grab yourself a nice fresh crusty bread roll!cut it open and butter it then load Chicken Twisties in it and crush it down!give that a go mate and let me no what you think cheers the thunder from downunder!
 

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lets not forget to ALWAYS wear your gear
That's a good point. Minimum gear I would suggest is:

1) Head: Helmet (always, always, always)
2) Back: Wear some kind of back protection, be it in a jacket w/foam, or external protector w/foam, or CE 1/2.
3) Hands: Gloves w/palm sliders (Yeah it sucks in hot weather, but until you go down and actually feel how well sliders protect you - you'll never go back) +1 for gloves with palm sliders.
4) Feet: Definitely wear some kind of shoe/boot that protects your toes, heel, and ankle.

If you really care about yourself, and those that care about you, you'll also consider

1) Shoulder protection
2) Elbow/forearm protection
3) Knee/shin protection
4) Chest protection
5) Tailbone protection
6) Hip protection

A lot of manufactures provide great gear that covers all of this without looking like a GP fast boy on the street.
 

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Hi Scout hope your well!Scout I noticed you have "Twisties"for your whateva you call I.D icon!do you guys get Chicken Twisties?if you do grab yourself a nice fresh crusty bread roll!cut it open and butter it then load Chicken Twisties in it and crush it down!give that a go mate and let me no what you think cheers the thunder from downunder!
Chicken twisties? Our local Safeway chain does not carry the twistie stuff or I've never noticed it. I do all the store stuff of the family as I worked my way through college at the grocery store, so part of my nature as I know grocery in every possible way; and wife hates that place anyway. Kids love it, though. If by 'crush' you be thinking some good rum, yup, I do that now that the wife is home all the time! lol, I do water it down by one half, though. lasts longer, ofc.
 

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That's a good point. Minimum gear I would suggest is:

1) Head: Helmet (always, always, always)
2) Back: Wear some kind of back protection, be it in a jacket w/foam, or external protector w/foam, or CE 1/2.
3) Hands: Gloves w/palm sliders (Yeah it sucks in hot weather, but until you go down and actually feel how well sliders protect you - you'll never go back) +1 for gloves with palm sliders.
4) Feet: Definitely wear some kind of shoe/boot that protects your toes, heel, and ankle.

If you really care about yourself, and those that care about you, you'll also consider

1) Shoulder protection
2) Elbow/forearm protection
3) Knee/shin protection
4) Chest protection
5) Tailbone protection
6) Hip protection

A lot of manufactures provide great gear that covers all of this without looking like a GP fast boy on the street.
Yes, off the shelf Keith Code Rocket one piece 5.0 with icon liner; and with Code rocket boots; all wear like iron for me. I hope that stuff is still on the market. I won't buy Code's gloves again as the last ones bled all over.
 

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Yes, off the shelf Keith Code Rocket one piece 5.0 with icon liner; and with Code rocket boots; all wear like iron for me. I hope that stuff is still on the market. I won't buy Code's gloves again as the last ones bled all over.
I think it is adorable how you blather your posts knowing full well you speak fluent English.
 

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Additional suggestions:

1) Ride in the tracks left behind of vehicles in front of you (left or right side of your current lane). This will be the best place to "clear" the path for your tires, and your bike. Nails, debris, oil, etc. This will also give you the best visibility in your lane.
2) Avoid the center of your lane, same as above - oil and debris.
3) Always offset your riding position in a group. Do not follow another rider in a straight line. If the rider you are following is on the left side of the lane, you should be on the right side of the lane, and vice versa. When approaching a turn, adjust your position to best handle the turn (outside-in), and once the turn is completed reposition the group accordingly.
4) If you ride in a group, abide by the groups rules because those are the rules that everyone is using and expecting of each other.
 

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That's a good point. Minimum gear I would suggest is:
A lot of manufactures provide great gear that covers all of this without looking like a GP fast boy on the street.
Yeah, I'm a fan of more traditional look rather than stepping off the MotoGP Grid. Best colour = Black.

In Finland they are getting into day glo safety vests and crap but to be honest, Can't make them out for crap when the vegetation around them is bright green and the sun which shines 20+ hours in the day is behind them. No better off than any other colour. Have a nice black wet jacket with full armor which just has some slight silver reflective trim. Much better.

Usually couple that with leather pants and sports boots (up on shins) with good gloves. Thay way I have rain proof upper with good protection lower on the street. Must admit though, my summer gloves are white and black.

Riding after snow, never over cook entry into corners especially if there are side streets near them as there is bound to be gravel or sand dumped there from the Winter months.

When it comes to safety, be pro active rather than reactive to the situation. Don't switch off and think your gear will cover your ass as 9 times out of 10, it wont.
 

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Yeah, I'm a fan of more traditional look rather than stepping off the MotoGP Grid. Best colour = Black.

Riding after snow, never over cook entry into corners especially if there are side streets near them as there is bound to be gravel or sand dumped there from the Winter months.
This is also a very good point. In climates that actually experience snowfall and freezing temperatures, the roads can become glazed with slippery salt, and piles of salt and gravel from snow plows. Also nails like to gather on the edges of plowed areas, so stay away from edges of roads, parking lots, etc.

Roads will also acquire pot holes due to the salt and melting ice seeping into the pavement and then freezing again and expanding the asphalt causing it to crack and loosen, and eventually get kicked up by traffic creating a hole.

So when starting your new riding season after a wintery love fest, be mindful that the roads you experienced as good before, may not be so good now.
 
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