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I've just gotten into track riding fairly recently. I completed 4 levels of California Superbike School this spring/summer and have done several track days at the local track. I've spectated at WERA and CCS club races and can't get the idea out of my head that I'd like to give that a try one day. Problem is, I'm 53. Stuff that didn't used to bother me much hurts a lot now - like crashing. So I'm wondering how many people my age are actually out there racing. What's the consensus on how old is too old to start?
 

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I guess its really bout how old you really feel and how much you want to do it. If you like it do it is how I feel
 

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I guess its really bout how old you really feel and how much you want to do it. If you like it do it is how I feel
I agree with you to a point. And you've really hit the nail on the head as far as my dilemma. I don't feel any different mentally than I did when I was 22. Ask "old" people how old they feel and I think you'd find most will answer the same way. But the physical evidence doesn't support what I feel in my head. :cool: I don't heal as quickly as I used to.

I would imagine that if there are people in their 50s who are racing today, they probably didn't start in their 50s. So I'm mostly just wondering if I'm wrong about that. I know anything is possible, but I also know that everything has a price. How many 40-50-somethings start competitive racing at that age?
 

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I've just gotten into track riding fairly recently. I completed 4 levels of California Superbike School this spring/summer and have done several track days at the local track. I've spectated at WERA and CCS club races and can't get the idea out of my head that I'd like to give that a try one day. Problem is, I'm 53. Stuff that didn't used to bother me much hurts a lot now - like crashing. So I'm wondering how many people my age are actually out there racing. What's the consensus on how old is too old to start?
when I was racing at Willow Springs back in 06/07/08...there were fellas out there in there late 50's, even 60's...though a lot of them raced in the Single's (cylinder) events.......Kenny Kopecky (in his 50's) humbled many younger racers....he snagged the #1 overall plate at WSMC I think in 05, and he was romp'in around on a 999 or 749 Duc.

I'm self-employed and now 49, broke my right hand twice in 07.....and hung it up in 08. The risk wasn't worth it....now I just do trackdays only (very limited street riding), and have a blast.
 

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This is going to sound a bit off beat, but will make it a lot more enjoyable and less aching. Since a whole track day even on a somone young can take it toll. I know when I spend just 3-4 hours and get home I am beat and have to rest and I am younger.

A few things will help.

1) take some yoga/pilates classes at least twice a week. The benifits are amazing and makes you more limber to hold tighter positions on turns with out pulling muscles and cramping.

2) Stay fluid, a gallon of water and yes (no surprise here) coffee. It makes you way more alert and has other benifits

3) take mercury high potency Omega 3 Fish oil, MSM, Glucosamine and Chondroitin (which is a molecule that occurs naturally in the body. It is a major component of cartilage -- the tough, connective tissue that cushions the joints)

After 4-6 weeks of this you can feel like you're in your late 30's/early 40's again.
 

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I'm 25 Friday. I really wouldn't recommend an actual competitive race if you're worried about getting hurt. If not you you have to worry about, consider what your saying you probably ride within your limit with room for error or a way out most of the time. My GF got taken out on a fucking trackday because the guy thought it could have made it on the inside. I know the guy and understand where he was coming from but it should have got around but he didn't. He used to be one of the local fast guys, still is. He made a mistake on a trackday with no glory, point or cash reward and he ended up breaking his collar bone and 2 of my GF ribs.

A race day have shit on the line and most people way to win and when testosterone gets going we do stupid shit. I would say stick to trackdays and you'll have a better chance of not getting hurt. Dont worry about age it is a number I know a couple guy near 70 and they can school me and thankfully do.
 

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This is going to sound a bit off beat, but will make it a lot more enjoyable and less aching...
Not off beat at all. I agree 100%. I try to work out 3 days a week and ride either a mountain bike or road bike as often as I can. My problem is not conditioning. I can do 6-8 sessions in a track day and not feel beat up. My problem is crashing. I low-sided once at the track and was sore for weeks after (and couldn't work out for awhile...). Most people seem to believe that racing and crashing are inseparable, so I have to decide whether I'm willing to take that risk.

...The risk wasn't worth it....now I just do trackdays only (very limited street riding), and have a blast.
Exactly. If I never race, I'll still have a great time whenever I get to the track. But I'd kinda like to be able to say "been there, done that". But the risk isn't just physical. I can't afford to be unable to work, even for a short time. But maybe I'm overstating the risk. I've seen a few classes at club races that only have a few bikes running. Fewer bikes should mean less risk.

In any case, I'm not trying to break into AMA Superbike. I need quite a few more track days, school, and a license before I could actually even start a race.
 

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If the burden is there , I say go for it .
I know a few guys around here your age (not old either), racing . They Love it .
I am turning 43 next month , and find my enjoyment on simple track days . Being able to rub elbows with certain ones that DO race , is good enough for me .
Truthfully though , the longer your in this , the more stories you hear of why "so and so" stopped riding all-together due to Some Bad accident Racing .
Crashing is a part of it . How bad ? is up to the One upstairs.
Keep it fun , no matter what . A Trophy doesn't heal a broken tail bone .
 

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I'd say GO for it !! racing that is.......I highly recommend WERA as Club racing

org....give it a shot in senior / novice class, you won't regret it...

I'm 58....raced in Europe when i was 21-22 ( on 400 cc Kawi 3 cyl 2 smoker )

Huh...30 years later ( and no riding )I bought my 1st liter bike ( 2005 ZX10 )

and set it up track only after a few months of canyon riding.

I got taken out at Willow Springs on a track day...broken collarbone ( busted

the other side when I was 20..this time it was a triple fracture..but it's all good

I work out 5 days a week and actually feel i'm in better shape than 20 years
ago.

So...after 50+ track days and 2 seasons racing...i still wanna get on the track

and push it.....BUT (my) business is down 80% so...might have to sell both

bikes..

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I met two guys on my first track day last year that were 70+ and they said they did over 30 track days a year. Both had liter bikes and both rode in the advanced group. Never let age prevent you from doing something you love and are able to do. Youll just regret not doing it. Id give a big +1 to what static and Felix said about training and proper nutrition. Im 46 and it training/eating for the track makes all the difference in the world on those last sessions of the day. Best of luck no matter what you decide.
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I guess its really bout how old you really feel and how much you want to do it. If you like it do it is how I feel
I couldn't agree more. I can't keep track of my age .... it changes every year. :wink:

There are guys in their 50s who are in absolutely fantastic shape, and I like to think I am one of them (early 50s that is). I'm a competitive runner and triathlete and compete and succeed against all ages. We have a couple of guys in their late 50s in our running club who are faster than most of the competitive runners in their 30s. Don't let age hold you back at all.

I no longer race a motorcycle, but do the odd track day and can hold my own against anyone in the advanced level, shy of those who are top seated in the expert class I suppose.
 

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go for it! I was actually thinking earlier how old i will be when i start racing...Financially, I can't afford it right now, but some day later down the road when I'm more stable {I have two kids, one is a teen, the other close behind} I will definitely get going on this! I'm 30 now, so I figure I got another 20 or 30 years to mAke good on that promise to myself.

I say go for it! I know what you mean about not healing as well as you used to, but if it makes you happy, take the risk and enjoy life to the fullest, you never know when it's your time {god forbid}, but you don't want to grow old and regret not doing it!
 

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If you race you will fall and it is going to hurt more than it did 30 years ago. It is also going to take longer to recover.

I raced dirt when I was 20 years old and I fell every week. (It seemed to happen more when I tried to win.) Sometime I would get up, knock the dirt off and get right back on and other times it hurt like everything and I just layed there. I hit the hay in a turn at Lakewood one morning in 1970 at 70 mph and I think I still feel that one. That was 40 years ago.


I am 63 and would love to get back to the track and there are riders at Jennings older than me, but I am not going to do it. One rider that I talk to regularly has several injuries that he will never get over. He hurt his back, He dislocated his shoulder, and he has dislocated several fingers. None of these work like they used to. But Personally I am not so much concerned about falling as I am getting run over. Some of those guys do not belong on the track.
 

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Do it! Never too old. You can race without killing yourself, you don't have to win to have a sh*tload of fun doing it. Don't you guys run a 'clubmans' (beginner) type class over there?
edit; I'm 45....
 
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