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Nice save and keeping it off the deck. :ayyy:


I think someone's britches need cleaning tho'... :wink:
 
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Wow! I cannot like this post! :) I would have had to have my suit cleaned after that! Just curious what tires you were running and if you run warmers and if not was this early in the session when the tires might not have been up to full temp yet? I only ask because it looks like the tire let loose without giving you any level of feedback. Great example of TC not being able to handle every situation. Glad you didn't get bucked completely off!
 

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My pants survived fully clean, I actually considered not even bring it in but by the time I hit the next corner I could tell my head was not in the game anymore so I came off(everything just felt off). I wasn't even fully back by the next session but I had to get passed the mental block that was building up.

Just curious what tires you were running and if you run warmers and if not was this early in the session when the tires might not have been up to full temp yet? I only ask because it looks like the tire let loose without giving you any level of feedback. Great example of TC not being able to handle every situation. Glad you didn't get bucked completely off!
Bridgestone RS10R(factory tires for this bike) no warmers needed and that was the 7th lap so they were up to temp. I am pretty comfortable sliding rear tires so when it first started sliding I gave it no reaction but then it kept going and I had to pull it back. I was in a different gear and at a much higher speed than previously but my mind hadn't adjusted to that yet, the mistake was all me but I thought it would be good to show the community what TC1 will allow. Not afraid to own my mistakes.
 

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At least it wasn't more than an "oh s#*%!!"
 

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Welp, I bet the seat has a permanent crease in it now. :lol:

Nice recovery on it!
 

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I am pretty comfortable sliding rear tires so when it first started sliding I gave it no reaction but then it kept going and I had to pull it back. I was in a different gear and at a much higher speed than previously but my mind hadn't adjusted to that yet, the mistake was all me but I thought it would be good to show the community what TC1 will allow. Not afraid to own my mistakes.
It is a typical rookie mistake to pick up bike a little and then hammer it hard with some constant (35deg) lean angle.
Too much or too sudden throttle overpowers TC, track is never prefectly even and next minor bump lets tyre loose in an instant in this situation.
If you are comfortable sliding rear tyre (with TC off?) then you should know that slide stops as you are in progress of standing bike up and stopped or reduced roll on rate.
Hard throttle should happen toghther with hard steering to pick up bike quickly.
 

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Wow man nice save! I have had the zx slide out pretty far with tc on 1, but that takes the cake! I also use rs10s on my 16 zx10r and 15 R1. They are a great tire for the money! Very sticky. I have done several track days on the rs10s and have not used warmers. But I'm getting to the point where I don't want to have to wait for the tires to heat up. I have the same helmet but with the silver tint. What monkey suit are you wearing?
 

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It should be said that had I not known how to handle a slide like that and pinned the throttle, when most riders would have chopped it, it would have absolutely be a big highside.
I now use TC3 ;)
 

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I've had a couple of those incidents on my gen4. I only ever rode in TC1. One time I was ham fisting trying to get a drive for a pass and another time there was moisture hiding in a seam on the track, same spot got two riders badly that weekend.

After 7 laps the tires may have been near over heating and getting greasy which is typical of a street tire.
 

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I've had a couple of those incidents on my gen4. I only ever rode in TC1. One time I was ham fisting trying to get a drive for a pass and another time there was moisture hiding in a seam on the track, same spot got two riders badly that weekend.

After 7 laps the tires may have been near over heating and getting greasy which is typical of a street tire.
That's interesting. I have noticed that as the laps wear on the bike does start to get more loose. I figured it was just my fatigue/ lack of precision, and not the bike. What tires would you recommend the keep this from happening? Full slick I guess?
 

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After 7 laps the tires may have been near over heating and getting greasy which is typical of a street tire.
Been way passed 7 laps before and not had the issue on these tires. The only difference was that I really opened the throttle.

That's interesting. I have noticed that as the laps wear on the bike does start to get more loose. I figured it was just my fatigue/ lack of precision, and not the bike. What tires would you recommend the keep this from happening? Full slick I guess?
Consider adjusting your tire pressures if the tires are overheating.
 

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Consider adjusting your tire pressures if the tires are overheating.
What pressures were you running?

I run the RS10s as well at the track and have only good things to say about them. Ofcourse they arent as sticky as the SC2s but then they cost only half as much as the Pirellis. I was thinking of running TC2 this weekend at the track. Your video made me postpone that decision. Will stick to TC3 >:)
 

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Been way passed 7 laps before and not had the issue on these tires. The only difference was that I really opened the throttle.



Consider adjusting your tire pressures if the tires are overheating.
Street tires do overheat when pushed on the track. This time you asked more from the tire when it was giving you everything it had already. A more track oriented tire would have accepted it most likely. You can play with pressures and maybe gain a lap or two before this becomes an issue but depending on your pace it will still happen. If your slower it may not be much issue and a sticky street tire will do just fine (don't take offense to that! Please!).
 

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Street tires do overheat when pushed on the track. This time you asked more from the tire when it was giving you everything it had already. A more track oriented tire would have accepted it most likely. You can play with pressures and maybe gain a lap or two before this becomes an issue but depending on your pace it will still happen. If your slower it may not be much issue and a sticky street tire will do just fine (don't take offense to that! Please!).
^^^truth. Sounds like he's right at the point of needing some expensive track tires and warmers. A tire shouldn't let loose like that on dry pavement, unless the tire is cold, or it is getting greasy and there are ways to fix both of those situations (track tires + warmers).
 

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It should if I hamfist the throttle. I thought being in too higher a gear would make it not able to do that and asked too much from the rubber.

This was all user error.
 
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