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With gipro off. I am a fairly light rider, so by the seat of the pants, my bike didn't powerstand easily. Was a pain in the arse as wot in first it seemed the bike found the easies track was to accelerate moving light mass easier than picking up the wheel. However at nearly 12 tho rpm would pick up and whellspin just a bit as you were trying to clutch for 2nd gear. With it on setting #1 (hard neutral map) no more power up top but powerstands smoothly at about 7 tho rpm in first with about 3/4 throttle. Bags more midrange.... outstanding powerstands, and heaps smoother, especially downshifting, no jerkiness on roll off. Setting #2 Could not detect any great difference to it being off... still seemed jerky. Have actually tested it by switching it off, rolling in first at 60kph going wot and just get acceleration, then repeating the exersise straight away with setting #1 and every time powerstand at about 6500 rpm wot. Before anyone jumps on me about my bike not powerstanding in first, there is nothing wrong with the bike, think it's just my weight as the roll on races I have had, have been with current model cb100rr, an 05 gixxer thou and an o6 10 (stock) these were all before the GI Pro was fitted and all I have is a slip on hindle can. Walked away from the blade, and the gixxer. The 10 trailed behind me till abot 250kph by about 1/2 bike length (ie he was front axle level with my leg) then he seemed to pick up a very small margin before we woosed out.
 

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i'm going to get my bike mapped with #1 setting. should i rotate the sub throttle sensor forward like the ivans tre sugests if they're both the 'neutral' map? :heyyou:
 

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I hope no one here actually believes that the ecu is actually changing the timing cure that is going to the motor when you plug in a TRE.
No, we like many other forums like to create myths like the TRE or as you say things about the "timing cure" what ever that means :rolleyes: . Your username rings a bell didn't I have to tell you or respond to something about your attitude in another thread. :heyyou: :shady:...move along unless you have some concrete evidence other wise this thread is not for you. :headshake
 

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No, we like many other forums like to create myths like the TRE or as you say things about the "timing cure" what ever that means :rolleyes: . Your username rings a bell didn't I have to tell you or respond to something about your attitude in another thread. :heyyou: :shady:...move along unless you have some concrete evidence other wise this thread is not for you. :headshake
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Haha, your the guy that thinks your going to be able to get a positive pressure in the air box with ram air, you are a total retard, and good luck with that.
 

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Ok, finally got around to taking readings. This is for a 04/05 ZX10R but 06/07 models should work the same unless the GiPro is different for each models as they should have different pins(maybe different part # as well because of the pins) but most likely the same for both as the gear mechanisms pass the same voltage for both Generations to the ECU but you never know if the Mapping for each gear is different so 06/07 owners take that for what it's worth:

SETTINGS

- Normal Mode
TRE NOT ACTIVE All voltages Normal per Manual specs


1- TRE Active in 1-6 gears. Hard Setting for zx10r only

Neutral 4.47v Same as Ivan’s TRE


2- TRE Active in 1-6 gears. Softer Setting for zx10r and zx14
4th Gear 1.4v

3- TRE Active in 1-6 gears. Hard Setting for zx14/zxr1400
6th Gear 1.0v

4- TRE Active in 2-6 gears. Hard Setting for zx14/zxr1400
6th Gear 1.0v (1st gear is normal voltage to the ECU)

Hopes this settles it at least it will for me as there will always be old Suk guys that assume Ivans TRE does 5th gear so the ZX10R does it as well. :headshake:

I will answer any questions but mind you this is not related to PCIII only what the ECU sees. Thanks

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I was wondering if you knew weather or not the GIPro in eather setting 1 or setting 2, held open the ecu controlled secondaries slightly to accomplish the elimination of the off on throttle jerkyness that this unit dose away with. I installed one on my 04 ZX10R and setting 1 creates a big hole in the power at 4500 to 5000 rpms. Setting 2 works fine but I reasently installed a power commander and down loaded a map form this site that said it was for a ZX10 with a TRE. This map really leans the mixture out at 0 to 40% throttle and the bike runs real well with the GIPro set on setting #1, hard setting. I would guess that this map is lean to compensate for the TRE opening the secondaries further and sooner. What is your accessment if you don't mind me asking. :dontknow:
 

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I was wondering if you knew weather or not the GIPro in eather setting 1 or setting 2, held open the ecu controlled secondaries slightly to accomplish the elimination of the off on throttle jerkyness that this unit dose away with. I installed one on my 04 ZX10R and setting 1 creates a big hole in the power at 4500 to 5000 rpms. Setting 2 works fine but I reasently installed a power commander and down loaded a map form this site that said it was for a ZX10 with a TRE. This map really leans the mixture out at 0 to 40% throttle and the bike runs real well with the GIPro set on setting #1, hard setting. I would guess that this map is lean to compensate for the TRE opening the secondaries further and sooner. What is your accessment if you don't mind me asking. :dontknow:

Hopefully someone else can chime in, I am only reporting without a PCIII and don't know the effects of each GIpro settings with custom or down loadable mappings..sorry. :sad:
 

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I hope no one here actually believes that the ecu is actually changing the timing curve that is going to the motor when you plug in a TRE.

Yeah I tend to agree with you for the zx10, it is definetly a grey area though wot the ecu does with the gear postion switch input, Id say speedo readings, start inhibit in gear with clutch disengaged, possibly increased opening rate of secondary butterflies(as this is adjustable in the race ecu), and probably doesnt effect ignition timing, and having a neutral input from gear switch will eliminate fuel cut off at closed throttle/deceleration.(also adjustable on race ecu - fuel cut off on deceleration on/off)
 

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Yeah I tend to agree with you for the zx10, it is definetly a grey area though wot the ecu does with the gear postion switch input, Id say speedo readings, start inhibit in gear with clutch disengaged, possibly increased opening rate of secondary butterflies(as this is adjustable in the race ecu), and probably doesnt effect ignition timing, and having a neutral input from gear switch will eliminate fuel cut off at closed throttle/deceleration.(also adjustable on race ecu - fuel cut off on deceleration on/off)

you make as much sense as redline which by the way has been banned from this site for attitude and not only in this thread but many others.:badteeth:

Now,speed has nothing to do with anything...your first fault...gear position does hence the TRE and GiPro. This thread was started to tell members what Gear the TRE (Ivans) and the GIpro is in for each setting. It's up to the members to figure out what is best but there is no doubt that a gear change effects ECU conditions.:wink:
 

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Just a quick note to everyone who picks one of these up. I had no problem getting this thing put in, took about an hour. The hardest part was pulling the pins out of the harness. What I ended up doing was using a small screwdriver to pull the retaining clip back and then using a pair of surgical clips to pull the cable out. a screwdriver works well on the female side but you can bend the pins on the male side way to easy.
 

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so wich is better

ivans tre or the gi pro im kinda understanding whats going on with the tre but i cant make up the decision wich one to get:dontknow:
 

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I can't tell you "this one is better" but I would say it depends more on if you want the gear indicator or not. Note that the power commander and the TRE do different things so you can use both the power commander and either one of the TRE's or just the TRE by itself. :idea:
 

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gipro

just installed my gipro on an 06...... seem to like the second setting the best so far.....a little smoother i think though there is not a big difference to me tween 1 or 2.

i really like the gear indicator though! it is worth it just for that to me..

i am also 1 down front, arka pipes, and disabled butterfly in mid pipe......

sure sounds good!!!

harry
 
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