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Does one need to replace a gasket (for example for the oil pan) if one just removes it and puts it back on. No damage. 2009 ZX10R by the way, and a pain to get to cause of the exhaust pipes! :dontknow:
 

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I have never broken a seal on my bike but rubber gaskets are easier to reuse than cork.
 

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I try to make a habit of not reusing paper gaskets. I am not sure what material the oil pan gasket is, but if a paper gasket gets saturated at any point it will be suspect to leak. I wouldn't risk trying to reuse a gasket that seals oil, especially that low on the motor.
 

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Type of gasket

I think it's a metal gasket. Does that sound nuts? I'm pretty sure it's a metal gasket.

I've put the pant back together, and when my clutch cover comes in and I seal up the engine again and dump in some new oil I'll update and let you all know if the pan gasket held up.
 

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Except for covers with rubber gaskets or o-rings that are meant to be taken off and replaced frequently for routine maintenance, I always replace the gaskets. It really sucks to put it all back together and have a leak.
 

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composition gaskets are fine to reuse also if in good cond. and cleaned properly. they dont start leaking just because you removed them. removing and installing covers carefully is the key. even a lightly damaged composition gasket can be reused with certain sealers, also with certain sealers u dont even need a gasket and it will not leak! btw, there are no paper or cork gaskets on ur 10, and yes both would saturate and leak. most leaks are our fault, not the gaskets.
 

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Why bother. For the few dollars having piece of mind that you have a new gasket in there as opposed to spending another couple hours to change it if it happens to leak. Time is money. Gasket is less then $50 while your time is priceless. Every single gasket if I remove I replace with a new one. But that 's just my opinion.
 

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Why bother. For the few dollars having piece of mind that you have a new gasket in there as opposed to spending another couple hours to change it if it happens to leak. Time is money. Gasket is less then $50 while your time is priceless. Every single gasket if I remove I replace with a new one. But that 's just my opinion.

Really, Even with rubber gaskets that stand a chance of working (compressing right), I don't know (well I do know paper/cork is a one shot deal) what the casket condition will be, before the job is started.

So having the gaskets needed before the job starts, is just the way.
Anyone want to take the extra time to get a needed gasket, when they find out a gasket isn't going to make it a second time? Wow that's so expensive and time consuming...it's just off the chart.
 

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Really, Even with rubber gaskets that stand a chance of working (compressing right), I don't know (well I do know paper/cork is a one shot deal) what the casket condition will be, before the job is started.

So having the gaskets needed before the job starts, is just the way.
Anyone want to take the extra time to get a needed gasket, when they find out a gasket isn't going to make it a second time? Wow that's so expensive and time consuming...it's just off the chart.
To me it is. I'm glad that every single gasket that you could possibly need is in stock at your local dealer. Also I'm glad that you can stand having your bike torn down while waiting for , by act of god that your dealer doesn't have the gasket in stock, a special order gasket that takes 3-5 business days to arrive. Oh and I'm sure reusing rubber gaskets work 90% of the time , not really, but I'm not a betting man to take a 10% chance that the gasket may leak. If a new gasket leaks I'd know it was because of my bad installation not that anyones ever installed a new gasket and had it leak, but hey how hard is it to change a valve cover gasket or oil pan gasket on a ZX10R right? I'm glad also that you have the ability to tell if a rubber or metal gasket is going to leak or not. Could you explain that to me and enlighten us please?

Sorry folks for the sarcasm but if you're going to be sarcastic with me expect it back. Truth of the matter is with the economy being the way it is dealers are not stocking parts like they used to. Many dealers have turned everything into a special order. Even ordering online takes a few days unless you feel like paying for overnight shipping (Expensive). And I'm not the type of person that likes to leave anything torn down half way while waiting for parts. Especially since I do all my work myself and have children that like to get into things. By leaving a bike torn down in a garage I'm just asking for, "Daddy what are these?" as I go out into the garage and find multiple bolts missing and parts sitting where I didn't put them. Once again louemc I'm sorry if you're offended by my little rant I just felt a little sarcasm directed my way so I'd thought I'd send some back.
 

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To me it is. I'm glad that every single gasket that you could possibly need is in stock at your local dealer. Also I'm glad that you can stand having your bike torn down while waiting for , by act of god that your dealer doesn't have the gasket in stock, a special order gasket that takes 3-5 business days to arrive. Oh and I'm sure reusing rubber gaskets work 90% of the time , not really, but I'm not a betting man to take a 10% chance that the gasket may leak. If a new gasket leaks I'd know it was because of my bad installation not that anyones ever installed a new gasket and had it leak, but hey how hard is it to change a valve cover gasket or oil pan gasket on a ZX10R right? I'm glad also that you have the ability to tell if a rubber or metal gasket is going to leak or not. Could you explain that to me and enlighten us please?

Sorry folks for the sarcasm but if you're going to be sarcastic with me expect it back. Truth of the matter is with the economy being the way it is dealers are not stocking parts like they used to. Many dealers have turned everything into a special order. Even ordering online takes a few days unless you feel like paying for overnight shipping (Expensive). And I'm not the type of person that likes to leave anything torn down half way while waiting for parts. Especially since I do all my work myself and have children that like to get into things. By leaving a bike torn down in a garage I'm just asking for, "Daddy what are these?" as I go out into the garage and find multiple bolts missing and parts sitting where I didn't put them. Once again louemc I'm sorry if you're offended by my little rant I just felt a little sarcasm directed my way so I'd thought I'd send some back.
I wasn't directing sarcasm your way, I was agreeing with you :eek:ccasion1

I'm not offended, I know I'm horrible at communication.

When the good students were learning in school, I wasn't interested.
Building Race engines and chassis was my only obsession.
 

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I see. I apologize I just read your post the wrong way. Once again sorry for the sarcasm in my post.
 

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Gasket Update: Doooooon't reuse ZX10R gaskets!

Ok folks gasket update:

Re-used the oil pan gasket. Like the other engine cover gaskets on the 10R they were a grey waxy (stiff) cardboard gasket.

Within a few mins of running the engine it was dripping a little. I figured I would ride it the next day then get it changed over the weekend. Next morning I lost about 100ml!!!! So no riding possible. Luckily I caught it all in a pan.

Called all my local Kawi dealers........no one had the gasket in stock and all were on a 3 day order period + most of the dealers were booked for a week. So I freaked and did some net cross forum research.

Learned I could make my own gasket!!!! With some automotive paper and some sealant. $5 for the roll from any generic auto shop (Canadian Tire up here), and you have yourself (potentially) every gasket on the ZX10R you could think or bother to cut out.

4 hours later, $10 in, tight as hell and no leaks!

Traced the gasket from the old one, thin sealant layer on both sides, finger tighten screws, let skin over a 1 hour period, 1/2 tighten after that. 24 hour cure period but it was fine after the half turn. Careful not to apply too much sealant and have to much spill / squished out cause it squishes out both ways!!! (into the engine too!).
 
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