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The standard rubber on my new gen4 I have been very happy with (bridgestone 016) the rear looks like it still has more life in it but the front is due to be replaced. Do you think it is ok to just replace the front or should I really do both at once. Seems strange to me to wear out a front first even though i have heard the standard front are very soft.


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I mix and match the shit out of my tires because I go through them like underwear. The bike doesn't seem to mind...:dontknow:
 

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If you think the stock rubber is good, you haven't ridden the bike hard.
The stock tires are terrible and I threw em out the first chance I got.
Save your cash and get something that is worth putting on a $14k superbike.
2 birds with 1 stone.
 

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If you think the stock rubber is good, you haven't ridden the bike hard.
The stock tires are terrible and I threw em out the first chance I got.
Save your cash and get something that is worth putting on a $14k superbike.
2 birds with 1 stone.
:+1: The BT-016s that come on the bike are not the same as the BT-016s you buy off the rack. They are made to Kawi's specifications and are NOT very good tires.

Also, you can typically get away with just replacing one of the tires at a time as long as you stay in with the same manufacturer and tire type. If completely changing brands (Bridgestone to Dunlop/Pirelli/Mich) or type of tire (sport to sport-touring) then you really should change them both out together. The tires are designed to work in unison to have the same profile and tread pattern. The characteristics can differ greatly and affect the handling. So just be careful if you decide to do this.

I find it very odd that you've worn the front out before the rear. That to me is an indication that you've got something seriously wrong with the bike setup or the way you're riding it. The typical rule of thumb is a 2-for-1 replacement, meaning you go through 2 rear tires for every front tire. You should really look at the chassis setup, air pressure, etc. to determine the problem. Look at the way the tire is wearing out and see if you can determine where the problem is to get it corrected.
 

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:+1: The BT-016s that come on the bike are not the same as the BT-016s you buy off the rack. They are made to Kawi's specifications and are NOT very good tires.

Also, you can typically get away with just replacing one of the tires at a time as long as you stay in with the same manufacturer and tire type. If completely changing brands (Bridgestone to Dunlop/Pirelli/Mich) or type of tire (sport to sport-touring) then you really should change them both out together. The tires are designed to work in unison to have the same profile and tread pattern. The characteristics can differ greatly and affect the handling. So just be careful if you decide to do this.

I find it very odd that you've worn the front out before the rear. That to me is an indication that you've got something seriously wrong with the bike setup or the way you're riding it. The typical rule of thumb is a 2-for-1 replacement, meaning you go through 2 rear tires for every front tire. You should really look at the chassis setup, air pressure, etc. to determine the problem. Look at the way the tire is wearing out and see if you can determine where the problem is to get it corrected.
Thanks for the reply. I think I'll be replacing both. I found it odd as well that the front is wearing so fast. I've spoken to other riders here in Aus that have said these fronts are very soft and have experienced the same as me. It could be some thing to do with where I ride as there is a lot of fast down hill twistes. I'll fit some new rubber on both ends and see how that goes. Thanks for your input.


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It could be some thing to do with where I ride as there is a lot of fast down hill twistes. I'll fit some new rubber on both ends and see how that goes. http://www.motorcycle.com/mobile
That type of riding would contribute more towards wearing the front out faster for sure. It sounds like your tire pressures aren't the issue as that is pretty much where they should be.

Well, it sounds like you figured out which way you're going to go, so good luck with it! Oh, and putting a set of Dunlop Q2s on there will change your life! :wink:
 

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That type of riding would contribute more towards wearing the front out faster for sure. It sounds like your tire pressures aren't the issue as that is pretty much where they should be.

Well, it sounds like you figured out which way you're going to go, so good luck with it! Oh, and putting a set of Dunlop Q2s on there will change your life! :wink:
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I'm picking up my 2nd set this weekend; bout 2.5k out of the set. As mentioned, completely transforms the bike.
 

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So these Q2s are they way to go. Sounds good. Excuse my lack of knowledge but can you tell me the full name of them as there is so many variations available. Thanks again for all your advice. Much appreciated.


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Different strokes for different folks... I'm currently running Q2 front BT016 rear...before that was PR3 rear Q2 front ;) Doesn't bother me


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Nothing wrong with the stock tires. op wore out the front first cause he's NOT hammering on the exit. Just run the power 2ct 55 rear and the reg power front.
 

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photo shows you were going mega slow on some track. Next time ya go, look at who is fast. Then look at their tires.

Tire looks new. How many miles?
 

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Thanks for the reply. I think I'll be replacing both. I found it odd as well that the front is wearing so fast. I've spoken to other riders here in Aus that have said these fronts are very soft and have experienced the same as me. It could be some thing to do with where I ride as there is a lot of fast down hill twistes. I'll fit some new rubber on both ends and see how that goes. Thanks for your input.


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I have a friend who is new to sports bikes and he like I did years ago (when I was very much a squid), regularly toasted the front before the rear. I think the reason was braking too late when partially tipped in. The tipped-in braking was obvious by the feathering of the tread.
:dontknow: maybe worth considering?

BTW, I find Dunlop Q2s a far better tire (tyre in Oz) than the OEM BT016.
 

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The stock tires are the cheapest things they can get away with; plenty wrong with them.
Glad you took the step forward, you will not regret it.
 

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That's photos not from a track it's off my normal road loop. Tyres have only done 1800ks. The fronts a lot more warn than the rear.


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Now here's a mystery! Over 1100 miles on a rear tire that LOOKS like mega slow track use, but you say is normal road use, but LOOKS brand new, THAT I wore out in 800 miles and completely wore out in 1200 miles, and just wore them down, no track tar or whatever. Front sides worn down to the typical 'V.'

Teeks, all I do is twisties. Mostly tight twists. More fun that putting up with the track nazi's!
 
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