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As the title states I was looking for a REFLASH and have decided that ivans is the route I'd like to go. I have a graves slip on and will have a k & n air filter when the reflash happens. What can I expect to pay?
Gen 4 : ivans ECU REFLASH cost
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Why not call him and ask him? He will know more about his costs than any of us.
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Holy smokes, that seems like a ton for a reflash. I'd almost be half tempted at that price to save a bit more and splurge on the woolich setup. Then you could flash it as many times as you'd like for any future mods you would do, dial in the tune better for your bike and could always sell the woolich when you sell your bike and make some of your money back.
C3, your idea makes sense, and sounds reasonable.
The problem with your idea, or the flaw in it, is this.
Your idea assumes the kit you buy, and the flash Ivan does is the same thing, and its not.
Ivan has access to at least 75% more of the ecu than the kit will ever dream of offering.
So, its not an equal comparison. If a person is dragracing, and all they care about is top end power, then the kit will do a great job.
If you are street riding, and are concerned about small throttle openings,and how the bike feels, thats where Ivan holds a massive advantage.
The problem with your idea, or the flaw in it, is this.
Your idea assumes the kit you buy, and the flash Ivan does is the same thing, and its not.
Ivan has access to at least 75% more of the ecu than the kit will ever dream of offering.
So, its not an equal comparison. If a person is dragracing, and all they care about is top end power, then the kit will do a great job.
If you are street riding, and are concerned about small throttle openings,and how the bike feels, thats where Ivan holds a massive advantage.
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You have access to all of that in the Woolich setup... isn't Ivan using Woolich for his flashes anyway lol
No, Ivan developed his own software...that was back in 2012, and probably earlier?
Why would he have taken the time, and spent the money for his own software, if something cheaper/easier offered the access he needed?
And the answer is "about 75% more access".......Its not a slam on them either....
Their kits cover a lot of different bikes and Ivan does'nt. But, if he happens to have a flash for your specific bike, there is a huge difference between him flashing it and using a kit.
Theres a ton of info on this page....and if soemoen has questions, he will answer them.
http://www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/ecu.htm
Why would he have taken the time, and spent the money for his own software, if something cheaper/easier offered the access he needed?
And the answer is "about 75% more access".......Its not a slam on them either....
Their kits cover a lot of different bikes and Ivan does'nt. But, if he happens to have a flash for your specific bike, there is a huge difference between him flashing it and using a kit.
Theres a ton of info on this page....and if soemoen has questions, he will answer them.
http://www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/ecu.htm
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What can he tune with his flash that you can't in woolich?
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Looked on his website.
http://www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/11zx10r.htm
You can do everything he lists on his website in woolich and then some. If you add the woolich quickshifter you can adjust kill times per gear. You can tune individual cylinders if you wanted to on woolich, adjust the secondary openings to your preference, dial in the a/f ratio for your specific bike on the street with the ram air working, etc.
If you just want a good flash and don't want to monkey with all the tuning stuff, Ivan's or other places would be the way to go. But if you're like me and like to tinker I'd splurge and go woolich!
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Looked on his website.
http://www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/11zx10r.htm
You can do everything he lists on his website in woolich and then some. If you add the woolich quickshifter you can adjust kill times per gear. You can tune individual cylinders if you wanted to on woolich, adjust the secondary openings to your preference, dial in the a/f ratio for your specific bike on the street with the ram air working, etc.
If you just want a good flash and don't want to monkey with all the tuning stuff, Ivan's or other places would be the way to go. But if you're like me and like to tinker I'd splurge and go woolich!
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lol, Ivan's computer skills are so poor he cant even develop a website better than a 6th grader, now suddenly he is a flash engineering expert designing his own software? Believe what you will. :badteeth:
He is a decent tuner though.
He is a decent tuner though.
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