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I hear a lot of people saying that sportbikes nowadays have "too much HP". I strongly disagree, and think this saying is really counterproductive.
1. People have ALWAYS said sportbike have too much HP, even back in the 80's with 140/150HP. And yes I am old enough to remember ?
2. Riders are in sportbike for the power, there is no such a thing as too much when it is manageable.
3. Even before the advance of electronic, the HP on a sportbike is very manageable, it comes progressively and linearly. Be gentle on the throttle. (not necessarily the case with two stroke engines)
4. Pass 50mph, you are dead in any collision anyway. A 40HP bike is capable of 100MPH, it will not make a difference when you are t-boned by a car. (Haters will hate, but face it, it is physics and biology combined)
Guess I was just super lucky then, 90 mph broadsided a car that was just over the crest of a hill at 230 am, no reflectors or lights left on it and it had been split in 2. Granted my spine was severed from my lower half and arm/wrist was shattered. leg torn from socket and pelvis split open, bladder ruptured. I'm walking again. this was December. they didn't think I would live, then they were sure I wouldn't be able to walk, now they are tripping that I don't even use my cane or any other aids anymore except for times like now when it's cold and rainy and my everything hurts. point is that there is not a set speed that an accident will be fatal unless you do it directly into a concrete wall or something. As fragile as we are we are also resilient. I only checked this thread out cause I am probably gonna make the switch from my zx10 addiction to an s1000rr. Almost 100% due to the available electronic cruise control. my throttle arm and wrist are the ones that got destroyed in my wreck. I have about 70% mobility back in my wrist but it still hurts all the time so unless I have the ability to take some pressure off my right arm and wrist on occasion I think I might be done ridding sports bikes and that just isn't an option so looks to either be Aprilia or BMW unless kawi can step up and add this simple feature. Not trying to go aftermarket with the cruise control cause I still want the rear brake to be able to disengage the thing where aftermarket that isn't an option.
 

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Seems like fake news. It wouldn't be the first time dynos have gotten overly optimistic figures for new bikes. But we'll see when the dust has settled.
 

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I mean, even the graph in the vid says bhp.

My money is on the '19 ninja, they don't killed it the BMW killer for nothing.
 

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Roadracing World latest issue claims 205 HP at the rear wheel and full system is 220 HP. My gen 4 is 185 RWHP. May have my next bike here.
 

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from the magazine: by Chris Ulrich....The 2020 BMW Sl000RR makes a claimed 205 bhp and 83 lbs.-ft. of torque at the rear wheel. Power delivery is very linear and easy to control, with 73 lbs.-ft. of torque at 4,500 rpm and building from there thanks to variable valve timing and variable-length velocity stacks. Full advanced electronics and a new chassis help.
 

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from the magazine: by Chris Ulrich....The 2020 BMW Sl000RR makes a claimed 205 bhp and 83 lbs.-ft. of torque at the rear wheel. Power delivery is very linear and easy to control, with 73 lbs.-ft. of torque at 4,500 rpm and building from there thanks to variable valve timing and variable-length velocity stacks. Full advanced electronics and a new chassis help.
Thanks for sharing that. My conclusion is that the editor has confused bhp for wheel power, since BMW doesn't specify. Either that or BMW has somehow managed to pull 30-40 horsepower over it's rivals. I am incredulous at that. And it contradicts other sources I have read, e.g. https://www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-reviews/bmw/s1000rr/2019/ , https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bikes/bmw/2019-bmw-s1000rr-review

So yeah, I'm sure it's a great bike but BMW are engineers not miracle workers.
 

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I just talked to Irv Seaver BMW - they have deposits on 14 bikes and most coming in are the M package with the carbon wheels....he said around $23,000. Bike comes in Red for other models and tri color for the M model. No black until next year. 17 bikes total coming in by August. He said his 2015 is 200 RWHP and these are stronger.
 
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