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2016 ZX10R..>:):

Where, other then the dealer or online oem parts store like bike bandit etc, could I purchase a stock ecu for my bike. It has been having loud chain noise "cct problem" where its been a few hundred miles and hasn't gotten better. Also always seemed to not start correctly but since the cct noise ive noticed it struggling a bit more to start, cold or hot.

So I'd like to get it to the dealer since I did pay $300.00 for an extended 5 year warranty.. but I do have the ECU flashed and would like to not void my warranty. Hoping someone on here knows somewhere or something I may not to purchase a stock ECU.

Thank you for any help. :patriot:
 

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The only place to get a stock ECU is from Kawasaki themselves. So you need to go through an online dealer that deals with Kawasaki parts.

Ronayers
Honda East Toledo
Bike Bandit
Partszilla
Etc, etc.

Unless you plan to look on eBay for a used OEM one, or someone selling one themselves, those are your only options.
 

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What about buying the Woolich kit, back up your current flash for later, and then flash it back to stock before dropping the bike off at the dealer? Haven`t worked with Woolich, but surely this must be possible? Probably about the same price range too. And then you get to play with all the options later.
 

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What about buying the Woolich kit, back up your current flash for later, and then flash it back to stock before dropping the bike off at the dealer? Haven`t worked with Woolich, but surely this must be possible? Probably about the same price range too. And then you get to play with all the options later.
Uh, that would be a good idea except the ECU is basically locked to the account from the person who flashed it originally. It might be possible if the Woolich software can unlock it and make a backup of it, but again, that may not even be possible if this flash used a Woolich account. It would kind of defeat the purpose of using the Woolich software to unlock Woolich firmware. That's pretty much the whole purpose of locking the accounts. :wink: And that would likely be a similar cost. But maybe it could be done.
 

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I actually think that on the Kawi ECU's you can unlock the tune with woolich if was previously locked. To get the full setup would probably cost you a lot more than buying a used ecu on ebay though if I had to guess but the woolich setup is nice to have.

I'd check ebay, the for sale forums here maybe even national craigslist? As much as I hate to say it, maybe some zx10 facebook groups?
 

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Yes, I thought Woolich had an unlock option as well for locked ECU`s..? :dontknow:

Also was under the impression that for Woolich the bin file was locked to 1 ECU, but the ECU was not locked to the bin file. If it is indeed, that means that they can only ever sell one bin file pr ECU/bike and would loose a potential customer later on if the bike/ECU gets a new owner who would like to tune by buying their kit.

But again, I don`t know. Don`t have any personal experience with Woolich.
 

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Yes, I thought Woolich had an unlock option as well for locked ECU`s..? :dontknow:

Also was under the impression that for Woolich the bin file was locked to 1 ECU, but the ECU was not locked to the bin file. If it is indeed, that means that they can only ever sell one bin file pr ECU/bike and would loose a potential customer later on if the bike/ECU gets a new owner who would like to tune by buying their kit.

But again, I don`t know. Don`t have any personal experience with Woolich.
Yes, the Woolich Racing application has the unlock function. I have used the WR software to unlock an ECU that was NOT flashed originally by the Woolich software. That doesn't mean that you can use it to unlock another Woolich file. Again, that defeats the purpose of having the ECU locked - which is to prevent transfers of the tuning files outside of their mapsharing. And yes, the BIN file is locked to an account. So to transfer an ECU in Woolich to someone else to tune it, they would have to have their own Woolich account to play with it. You need 1 BIN file per ECU you're reflashing. You get 1 file with the purchase of the kit. That's the way it works, and that's the limitation of it.

So, since yours was flashed from someone else, what software did they use? First thing you'd have to do is unlock it. Next thing you'd have to do is tie that ECU to your account with them. If both reflashes are using Woolich software, then it will see that ECU is locked to another account and it would have to be transferred. And that may not happen easily without the original owner releasing it.
 

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You need 1 BIN file per ECU you're reflashing. You get 1 file with the purchase of the kit. That's the way it works, and that's the limitation of it.
Yes, that`s what I thought.

If both reflashes are using Woolich software, then it will see that ECU is locked to another account and it would have to be transferred. And that may not happen easily without the original owner releasing it.
Ok, I see. This is really bad if that`s how it is.
 

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You need 1 BIN file per ECU you're reflashing. You get 1 file with the purchase of the kit. That's the way it works, and that's the limitation of it.
Yes, that`s what I thought.

If both reflashes are using Woolich software, then it will see that ECU is locked to another account and it would have to be transferred. And that may not happen easily without the original owner releasing it.
Ok, I see. This is really bad if that`s how it is.
Did some digging as I found this strange. Seems to be the Woolich devices (e.g. USB interface/Logbox) that`s tied to the account and must be transferred, not the ECU. This makes perfect sense.

Locking the ECU to an account makes no sense at all, and it is not how it works.

Straight from the Woolich support forum tech in reply to a user wanting to flash a bike he bought which he thinks has been flashed by the previous owner:
"If the ECU has been flashed with our software before you will be able to read out the current bin file and use this as your base for further tuning. "

Also, an unlock option is available for Kawi Mitsubishi ECU`s as you already said and have done yourself. (But not Denso ECU`s)
 

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Thank you to everyone that chimed in. Always great help here.

I just purchased one off ebay.. lowest I found was $485.00
After reaching out to the seller who had his own business and explained to him why I needed a second ECU and that I know some people who have gotten it a lot cheaper [as seen in previous posts on this thread ;) ] we agreed on $300.00 shipped. So again thank you guys.

When plugging in this ECU that came from a DIFFERENT BIKE, do I need to do the throttle/ECU relearn..?

Turn bike on for 10 seconds without hitting throttle or anything turn off for ten seconds back on and so on 3 times (this is what I was told to do when I got my ECU flashed and put back into my bike)
 

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Little surprised no one has mentioned the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.
Go ahead and mention it all you want. But it's a loosing battle to fight them on it when they can basically prove that rewriting the control software on the computer with an unknown 3rd party product contributed to the lack of stated performance or the reason your valves are bent. If you wanna ride your broken bike for the year it takes to go through the courts, have at it. We're not taking about bolting on an exhaust here. We're talking about completely modifying the software which can invalidate the warranty.
 
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