[Flipr]

2010 ZX-10R Australian Delivery.
After 8,000 km's of trouble free riding I bought a PCV and Autotune for my 2010 model.Fitted everything and ran engine.Ran ok but had a flat spot and was hesitant at around 3'500-4'00 rpm.Tried different maps,after trimming the first map a few times.Nothing worked.
Then got F1 light and Code 54 (stick coil No 4).Dis-connected PCV,but problem was still present.Took bike to Dealer and they found that the ECU had packed it in.Got new ECU and bike was going good again.
Sent PCV back to Dynotune for testing(all at my expense),they sent it back saying it had passed all test with flying colors.
So after another 1'500 k's of trouble free riding,got the PCV back and plugged it in(2 connectors in-line with throttle body plug and 1 ground wire).
As soon as I turned on the ignition BAM F1 light,bike running like shit,and code No 54 again.
After a week of e-mails etc,Dynojet are adamant that it could not be their product,so it looks like I will be forced to take legal action to recover my cost's as well as a new ECU.
Can anyone shed any light on why this has happened or share any similar experiences. Thanks,Flipr

 

[torquezx9r]

I am dealing with them right now!

also coil 4 but I ended up needing a new wiring harness on my 09.

I had to foot the bill too for labor.

My PCV and autotune is at dynojet right now and they say there is no problem.

It is never going back in the bike!

I have reflashed ECU from DPT and it is leaps and bounds better in my opinion than the piggyback systems.

 

[Flipr]

Thanks for your input torquezx9r.
What was wrong with your wiring loom?
I am getting a specialist lawyer with expertise in these sort of issues involved,so any info will be very helpful.
I have also contacted DPT and Guhl Motors for their opinions,and if they can save and re-flash my ECU.Waiting for replies.
If anybody else has had an issue with Dynojet,please provide some info as every little bit might help the little guy slay the big dragon. Cheers,Flipr
P.S I will never plug anything from Dynojet into a bike ever again.

 

[cciwchamp2]

can you guys tell me what the difference is between a flashed ECU and using a power commander and autotune?

 

[tone.r]

:heyyou:

 

[TMY10ER]

when you get the ecu flashed it will be set for whatever is on your bike at the time BUT i believe they can do a bit more then just adjust the a/f ratio and timing advance/retard...as apposed to a commander where you load and adjust maps depending on what you have on your bike and change. if that makes any sense at all?

 

[TMY10ER]

Thanks for your input torquezx9r.
What was wrong with your wiring loom?
I am getting a specialist lawyer with expertise in these sort of issues involved,so any info will be very helpful.
I have also contacted DPT and Guhl Motors for their opinions,and if they can save and re-flash my ECU.Waiting for replies.
If anybody else has had an issue with Dynojet,please provide some info as every little bit might help the little guy slay the big dragon. Cheers,Flipr
P.S I will never plug anything from Dynojet into a bike ever again.

best of luck with the lawsuit man, i think DJ covers their ass VERY well with all the warnings and labels they put on their site and in the instructions. it would amaze me if you got anything from them regardless, but i do wish you the best. i have dealt with them for over 10 years now and they have always taken care of me no matter what the problem was. sucks to hear though, looks like a flash is in your future or a bazzaz unit? (still a piggy back though)

 

[cciwchamp2]

i dont mean to jack your thread flipr!

when you get the ecu flashed it will be set for whatever is on your bike at the time BUT i believe they can do a bit more then just adjust the a/f ratio and timing advance/retard...as apposed to a commander where you load and adjust maps depending on what you have on your bike and change. if that makes any sense at all?

thanks tym, so is it better to go the reflash route? i just put a full akra system and i am just about the pull the trigger on a pcv and autotune. do you know how the reflash works? who does it and do you just let them know all your bike specs? and is it expensive compared to the pcv route? thanks for help!

 

[TMY10ER]

i dont mean to jack your thread flipr!



thanks tym, so is it better to go the reflash route? i just put a full akra system and i am just about the pull the trigger on a pcv and autotune. do you know how the reflash works? who does it and do you just let them know all your bike specs? and is it expensive compared to the pcv route? thanks for help!

PM sent.....

 

[craig_sez]

Flashing a ecu gives you a wide open ecu to adjust...Thats "IF" you get the full flash and not the basic..With basic you "CANT" adjust anything but there is a performance increase..If you make changes in your bike the basic ecu job has to be reflashed again to meet the demands of the new parts and so on...
With the full flash you get a race ecu(basically)pc cable and software to open up every option possible in tuneing ability.All you need after that is someone to tune it for you and yer good ta go..
From what i have been reading the non adjustable (to you)reflash is around $450 the full is almost dbl that..

Chk with forum member GARTH as to the results of the g4 reflash,he just his done and we all are waiting on his outcome..

 

[TMY10ER]

Flashing a ecu gives you a wide open ecu to adjust...Thats "IF" you get the full flash and not the basic..With basic you "CANT" adjust anything but there is a performance increase..If you make changes in your bike the basic ecu job has to be reflashed again to meet the demands of the new parts and so on...
With the full flash you get a race ecu(basically)pc cable and software to open up every option possible in tuneing ability.All you need after that is someone to tune it for you and yer good ta go..
From what i have been reading the non adjustable (to you)reflash is around $450 the full is almost dbl that..

THAT'S how i should have worded it!! very nice man and spot on!!:mrgreen:

 

[Flipr]

best of luck with the lawsuit man, i think DJ covers their ass VERY well with all the warnings and labels they put on their site and in the instructions. it would amaze me if you got anything from them regardless, but i do wish you the best. i have dealt with them for over 10 years now and they have always taken care of me no matter what the problem was. sucks to hear though, looks like a flash is in your future or a bazzaz unit? (still a piggy back though)

Yeah,they've sent me all their warranty conditions.But this is not about a warranty issue with their product,it is about what their product has done to my bike.
This bike is my only form of transport and has already been off the road for 4 weeks in total so far.A new ECU and master key set fitted is just over $2 grand here,and IMO it is not mine or Kawi's fault that this has occurred.
Frying an ECU once after it was plugged in,you might think it could have been just bad luck.
Twice,well I don't think it is just a co-incidence.
Thanks for the luck TMY10ER,and what you saw in the future is pretty darn close.You might see me on the news in Vegas,protesting outside the Dynojet Headquarters soon,and I will not give up on this until a solution is found.

 

[torquezx9r]

I had two failed PCV's one is at DJ now being "fixed". the DPT flashed ecu is absolutely satifying I have akra and cored header, k&n race specific the bike rips!

 

[Flipr]

I had two failed PCV's one is at DJ now being "fixed". the DPT flashed ecu is absolutely satifying I have akra and cored header, k&n race specific the bike rips!

Did the failed PCV's fry your original ECU,and then you got the re-flash?
Dynojet claims only 1% failures with their products.Looks like those failure rates are about to be re-written,along with a number of ECU's that thier PCV has fried!

 

[Flipr]

I feel compelled to offer everybody on this forum and guests who have read this thread an APOLOGY.Turns out the PCV issue was a co-incidence,and I've already sent an apology to Dynojet.
Turns out that a couple of wires were coming out of the ECU plug,and I guess by plugging in the PCV it caused a voltage drop through the wiring,which then caused the F1 light and subsequent fault codes.
If you have had your bike Dynoed by anybody,check and make sure they don't decide to get a rpm signal from your ECU.The hacking of the wires by a Kawi tech at a reputable Dealer in Melbourne caused the issues with my bike.
So to all Members,Dynojet and anyone else who read my rant,I am sorry for blaming Dynojet and their product for the problems associated with my ride.
The PCV is on and the bike is running really strong now.

 

[dynagrego]

The PCV is on and the bike is running really strong now.

That's great news!!ccasion1

 

[Niqui]

Congrats man, That's great to hear. I've always been taken care of by DJ very well.

Mistakes happen bud. I'm sure everyone will understand!

 

[Riding4life]

I feel compelled to offer everybody on this forum and guests who have read this thread an APOLOGY.Turns out the PCV issue was a co-incidence,and I've already sent an apology to Dynojet.
Turns out that a couple of wires were coming out of the ECU plug,and I guess by plugging in the PCV it caused a voltage drop through the wiring,which then caused the F1 light and subsequent fault codes.
If you have had your bike Dynoed by anybody,check and make sure they don't decide to get a rpm signal from your ECU.The hacking of the wires by a Kawi tech at a reputable Dealer in Melbourne caused the issues with my bike.
So to all Members,Dynojet and anyone else who read my rant,I am sorry for blaming Dynojet and their product for the problems associated with my ride.
The PCV is on and the bike is running really strong now.

I just saw this thread and I was going to suggest you have the plugs for your ECU looked at.

Glad it worked out for you and hopefully Dynojet didn't put some code into the PCV to blow your bike up after you accused them....lol...jk

 

[Kawawog]

Fark man, i was shittin myself when i read your story ,and got paranoid as fark of my PCV fucking up my ecu!
Glad to hear you got it sorted:thumbsup:

 

[arc]

If you have had your bike Dynoed by anybody,check and make sure they don't decide to get a rpm signal from your ECU.The hacking of the wires by a Kawi tech at a reputable Dealer in Melbourne caused the issues with my bike.

I'm planning to have PTR supply, install and dyno my replacement bike when the insurance comes through. Where should they get the RPM signal from? Any issues with PTR?

So glad you go to the bottom of this, I also started reading this thread with horror.

TVM,
A.