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Crashed the '10 - warning! Also track/nesba report.

If you read nothing else, read the last sentence of this post.

Went to VIR full course yesterday. It was a NESBA event. While very well organized, and for the most part, well-ran, let me say that this place was *packed*. I would guess 50 riders per class, sometimes running 5 wide on the straights.. it was just insane. Until I see smaller class sizes,I doubt that I'll be at another NESBA event.

In a mostly unrelated event, I went down on the 10 yesterday. The guy in front of me braked mid-turn, I had to go wide to keep from bumping his rear tire.. oops, track is slippery! Bike slides two feet over edge of track, front wheel sticks in mud, I face plant on concrete curb at about 50MPH(?). Sore chin and accompaning headache, sore knee, but all is well with me.

The zx-10, that's another story. it went down on it's left side. When it did, it broke the upper and lower fairing, cracked the upper/front cowling, scratched the tail section.. and broke the left side engine cover.

http://www.cltdod.org/photopost/data/509/2DSCF0037-med.JPG

I'll try to get some pictures up in the next day or two. The important thing is.. get those frame sliders on or risk losing your engine! I've now got to pull the cover off, drop the oil pan and do some serious cleanup before I'm even ok with starting the engine (fortunately it shut off when it went down.. is there an automatic tip-over/kill switch on these bikes?).
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One person had already been down in the same spot that morning (and another in oak tree bend, and I saw the ambulance take off as I was packing.. all before lunch), but I guess that wasn't enough for them to check the track better. It was only when my bike leaked oil into the mud that they decided to look at the track, find some slick spots (looked like an oil leak for a car the previous day) where I went down and put some oil-dry down.

I partially blame the VIR track workers (usually a first class facility).. they should have caught this.
I partially blame NESBA as they did a track check as well. At speed, you don't see those spots, but riding at 20mph in the grass in the recovery vehicle, they were quite obvious.

... and of course, I partially blame myself. For riding when I felt there were too many people on the track, and for running outside instead of just slamming the bike on the deck and running to the inside of the guy in front of me..this would have however, violated the "no passing in corners" rule (I usually ride intermediate class in track days, but hadn't done a track day in a while and chose to start in beginner).

Does anybody know where to get billet engine covers?
Several people that saw the bike said they swear by Woodcraft covers, but I went to their site and see nothing (in the way of covers) for the zx-10.

Anyway.. you've been warned.. get frame sliders and/or billet cover(s) or risk losing your engine.
 

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Sorry to hear the bummer news about you and the bike but as you eluded to the track was overly busy per group.

BD
 

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Wow, sorry to hear. I'm planing a vaction that involves doing a trackday with NESBA at Barber and Road Atlanta next year. I'll be pissed if it's as packed as your VIR trackday.
 

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Better check ahead of time. Intermediate was full as well. So even if you bumped from Beginner to Intermediate, you were stuck in Beginner. From the many people I talked to that regularly attend NESBA events, the class sizes were considered "normal".

If I ever DO attend another one of their events, I'll be sure to sign up for Intermediate to avoid bonehead moves like the guy in front of me made. I'd rather be one of the slower (slowest?) guys in a class and riding with people with some skill then being one of the faster ones in a slower class and having shite like this happen.

Here's a picture of the back HALF of the beginner class.


 

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As of right now, no one has billet covers in stock. Every one is working on them, woodcraft are good, Factory makes some, but no one has them yet. These are going to be PRICEY due to the size of the covers, but they should be available by early next year is what I am hearing
 

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My engine has a hole in it and most of the oil has drained out. After I clean all the crap out of the engine, I guess I'll be putting a factory cover back on until somebody makes one that can stand up to falling in the mud (sheesh).

Thanks for the info.
 

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geez.... that's a lot of guys to be out there at one time.... you have enough for a full group just in that picture, plus with it being wet out there... I'm not surprised something bad happened out there.....
 

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When I used to race cars, the Sports Car Club Of America used to have a simple formula to determine the number of cars allowed on the track at any one time. For example, something like 20 cars per mile of race track. If I remember correctly, Hallett was limited to something like 44 cars on the track at the same time. I don't know if NESBA uses any formula like that to determine the "density" of the bikes on the track that it will allow. How long is the track at VIR? BD, as a track day organizer, do you use some formula like that? Or do you just have a fixed number that you go by. Obviously, 44 Formula Ford race cars on a track is a lot more dense than 44 motorcycles on the same track.
 

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Cox Racing was offering radiator gaurds/frame sliders and case covers.
 

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i would'nt have even stuck my crappy track bike into that mix. lucky thats all that happened,sorry about your damage that really blows. talked to woodcraft lots of goodies coming for the 10r just gonna be awhile. if your in a big hurry contact a cnc specialist and get some custom cut stuff if your pockets are deep enough
 

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Atkinsr, sorry to hear about your get off. Glad your OK.


I have rode with NESBA many times. They do run a great show. The groups do seem large at times. You have to pick your spot in the line up. I find it best to line up first {center lane next to the CR's}....that way when I do get in traffic it's the tail end of the riders. I can pick the spots to pass. If indeed I do get passed anywhere it would have to be an absolute fast guy and I can trust he's not going to screw up my run. Sometime I still have to pit in to get clear track.

Ever go to a little kids soccer game......they all seem to be bunched up around the ball kicking each other in the shins. No one's ever out alone to get the ball when it pops out of the pile.

That's what seems to happen on the track too. 50 + bikes all on the same stretch of track.

They do have a limit on the number of rider per session. It's set at around 25 per mile. Vir Full is 3.27 miles.

I hope your next track ride will be better for you. It's still safer than the street !

Tim

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BackMarker said:
Ever go to a little kids soccer game......they all seem to be bunched up around the ball kicking each other in the shins. No one's ever out alone to get the ball when it pops out of the pile.
hey, doesn't Jason Pridmore use that same analogy? :mrgreen:
 

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dnwhoop02 said:
hey, doesn't Jason Pridmore use that same analogy? :mrgreen:
Great minds must think alike.....:lol:
 

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I have done a few nesba events and they are really not safe due to the amount of people they allow on the tracks. To my knowledge, dont pound me if I am wrong, they are the only ones that have had fatalities every year as well.
 
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