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This is an email I just got from my mom.. I thought it was said VERY well.

Since we are not going to get gasoline back to $1.50 per gallon and coffee to $2.00 per pound maybe this would be a solution we could live with.

DIVORCE AGREEMENT -- This is so incredibly well-put, and I can hardly believe it's by a young person, a student!! Whatever he runs for, I'll vote for him!
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Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, regressive, Marxists, and Obama supporters, et. Al.:

We have stuck together since the late 1950s for the sake of the kids, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has clearly run its course.

Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right for us all, so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.

Here is a model separation agreement:

1. Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by land mass, each taking a similar portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy. Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides had such distinct and disparate tastes.

2. We don't like redistributive taxes, so you can keep them.

3. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU.

4. Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA, and the military.

5. We'll take the nasty, smelly oil industry and you can go with wind, solar, and bio-diesel.

6. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore, and Rosie O'Donnell. You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them.

7. We'll keep capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart, and Wall Street.

8. You can have your beloved lifelong welfare dwellers, food stamps, homeless homeboys, hippies, druggies, and illegal aliens.

9. We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's and rednecks.

10. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood .

11. You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us.

12. You can have the peace-niks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we'll help provide them security.

13. We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values.

14. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, political correctness, and Shirley McLain. You can also have the U.N., but we will no longer be paying the bill.

15. We'll keep the SUV's, pickup trucks, and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.

16. You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors..

17. We'll continue to believe healthcare is an earned luxury and not a right.

18. We'll keep "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" and "The National Anthem."

19. I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute "Imagine", "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing", "Kum Ba Ya," or "We Are the World".

20. We'll practice trickledown economics and you can continue to give trickle up poverty your best shot.

21. Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name and our constitution and our flag.

22. Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like-minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you answer which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

Sincerely,
John J. Wall
Law Student and an American

P.S.: Also, please take Ted Turner, Sean Penn, Martin Sheen, Barbara Streisand, and Jane Fonda with you.

P.S.S..: And you won't have to "Press 1 for English" when you call our country.

Forward this every time you get it! Let's keep this going; maybe some of it will start sinking in!

**If you can't stand behind our Military, Please feel free to stand in front of them! **
 

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Many ignorant statements in that email. Let's not forget that it was a conservative republican president that started the undermining of our constitution, and dissolved a majority of the bill of rights. BTW I am neither dem or rep, but lean towards a conservative republican.
 

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It will never work, we are wired for self destruction. When we have no one to fight or throw out, we'll go after each other. Just the nature of the beast with in us.
 

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Well if that was written by some redneck that has to much time than I must be one myself because I agree with it.. Maybe not all of it but definitely most.

Like this?

7. We'll keep capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart, and Wall Street.

8. You can have your beloved lifelong welfare dwellers, food stamps, homeless homeboys, hippies, druggies, and illegal aliens.

9. We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's and rednecks.

10. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood .

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13. We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values.

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17. We'll continue to believe healthcare is an earned luxury and not a right.

Matthew 19
16 Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life ?”
17 “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”
18 “Which ones?” he inquired.
Jesus replied, “‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, 19 honor your father and mother,’[c] and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’[d]”
20 “All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?”
21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.
23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”



Matthew 6
19 “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
22 “The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are healthy,[c] your whole body will be full of light. 23 But if your eyes are unhealthy,[d] your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!
24 “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money."
 

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This is how I feel.

I'm tired of struggling my way through life just so the next lazy ass, or illegal alien can go have all this free shit givin to them.

I love god. I hate the church. I hate money and lack there of. I'm sure if I had money I wouldn't hate it so much.

Explain this to me.

If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

You cannot serve both God and money

If the church is all about god and the whole sell all your things and give to the poor, then why do churches take offerings, and push to give all you can??????????

Doesn't that kind of contradict what you just said? You can only serve one. god or money?
 

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Wow, didnt see any arguements coming from this..........

Bitch all you want, noones right and noones wrong, but were fucked either way.
 

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If the church is all about god and the whole sell all your things and give to the poor, then why do churches take offerings, and push to give all you can??????????

Doesn't that kind of contradict what you just said? You can only serve one. god or money?
I can't explain it. I'm not a fan of Church as an institution, so I'm not the right person to defend it. What really annoys me though is the blatant hypocrisy of people, who on one hand claim adherence to the Christian values, and on the other support greed and exploitation.

I understand the sentiments about people who want things for free, but I'm not convinced that many of those "welfare bums" wouldn't put themselves among the "true patriots" and supporters of letters like the one in the first post.

This letter has most likely been deliberately written in such fashion. It tries to evoke emotions of indignation and patriotism, while sneaking in all the "anti-liberal" propaganda. There will be a large number of people who will agree with the "pro-American" message, and extrapolate the agreement to the rest of the letter, regardless of whether it makes any sense or not. Sadly, most of such "appeals" are ridden with false information and are only meant to turn people against each other.
 

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well i must say even though the letter i'm sure is fictional, i agree with most of it.

And you can in fact have money and believe in God and go to heaven. A lot of folks get confused when discussing money and church. Nowhere does the bible say money is evil, yet it's the love of money that is. I understand that churches need money. They must pay salaries, utilities, maintenance costs, outreach programs, all kinds of things. The larger the church and the more people it wishes to reach, obviously the more money it needs. If one claims to believe in God and believe what is in the bible as the written word of God, then they shouldn't have a problem with giving to the church or to charities. I have a hard time when someone uses the bible to justify redistribution of wealth. In no way is freely giving to those in need comparable to the gov't using taxpayer money to support many who don't need help. I mean God gave man free will to accept Him or deny him. You think you have free will to pay taxes? When you're forcing someone to do something it makes it much less Christian doesn't it? Let's not be silly and compare our wasteful gov't to God.
 

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I also agree. And I am STRONGLY against welfare and all that bs. When I work 48 hours a week making decent money and a old neighbor works none but has 3 kids 3 baby daddys and gets more for free, nicer house nicer things inside her house better food cars all for free, then I get working it has to make you wonder wtf is happening here? If you think that's right then go ahead and give them all your money aswell because I am tired of putting in for some free loader to take.
 

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I will say this.
Our country is f**ked....
As a veteran, I served my country 1st and foremost,
And I personally believe that EVERY male should have to serve at least 2 years
defending it. (Don't care who disagrees)

You should not have a right to vote or decide how this country is run or
serve in any political office unless you have done so.

This country is WEAK now because of foreign interest infiltrating into our way of life.
And I do NOT mean legal imagrants. They help build this country by working HARD
and believing in the American dream and defending it.

This country needs some tough love to right itself.
And give the BOOT to ASS to all the soft liberal bleeding hearts that drag us down.

And in closing,
If you will not work hard for this country.
GTFO:

It may be a Marine Corps motto, but I believe in it myself whole heartedly.

SEMPER FIDELIS ALWAYS FAITHFUL
 

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I also agree. And I am STRONGLY against welfare and all that bs. When I work 48 hours a week making decent money and a old neighbor works none but has 3 kids 3 baby daddys and gets more for free, nicer house nicer things inside her house better food cars all for free, then I get working it has to make you wonder wtf is happening here? If you think that's right then go ahead and give them all your money aswell because I am tired of putting in for some free loader to take.
You only work 48 hours a week? Freeloader! :)
 

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My opinion: we have one of the cheapest tax rates in the world, and it's not that bad. I worked hard in my life, joined the military for six years, earned my college degree, and now have a very good paying job. I pay a small portion of my paycheck that helps others. The rest I blow on stuff I don't really need (like a ZX-10) and a house that has more bedrooms than my household has members. But it's nice :thumbsup: Oh, and I save up for my own retirement. I don't personally give to other charities and simply consider part of my tax money my charity. I'm sure for every person trying to scheme the system there are a hundred who desperately need the assistance.

Don't want any money/housing assistance to go to people who need it? Things won't get better that way, they'll get worse. You can complain all you want about people having kids when they shouldn't (I agree), but the fact is they're having the kids, they can't afford to feed them well and send them to school, the kids become even bigger losers than their parents, and then finally go have kids themselves.

Work hard, get all the education you can, and I guarantee you'll find a way to make a comfortable living. Teach your kids to be hard workers. You may not live in Beverly Hills and drive a Bentley, but I'm sure you can find something that will make do. Speaking of entitlement, what else are you entitled to that you don't already have? One day we're going to have to wake up and pay more taxes.
 

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I will say this.
Our country is f**ked....
As a veteran, I served my country 1st and foremost,
And I personally believe that EVERY male should have to serve at least 2 years
defending it. (Don't care who disagrees)
:+1:

I have always said and been of the strong belief that everyone should serve 2 years in the military myself...
 
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