[Esta56]

OK, I want the comfort of the ZX14 but the scratchability of a ZX10. I have no interest in drag bikes, lengthend swingarms etc. So has anyone carried out a project to make the ZX14 lighter, flickable, harder braking without fade etc. Can the 14 be improved enough to give the 10 a run for its money (or even beat it)? If so, what worked and what didn't, any recommendations. I can imagine fitting an Akro Evo titanium system and carbon wheels would go a long way to improving the handling and weight but what else?

My 10 is in the shop for a service on Saturday and I've booked out the 14 out for a test ride!!

 

[Vince10R]

not gonna happen, bikes have similar power but the 14 is over a 100 pounds heavier and the 14's wheelbase is 3" longer. If the same rider rides them both the 10 will be faster. :thumbsup:

 

[fbmbks]

to a certain point gotta love the tq though, the guy I bought my 14 from had bst carbon fiber rims on it and said it handled great, its all a preference ride one and see of you like it asking that question usually ends up a dick measuring competition

 

[Esta56]

Fair points. I have to actually ride one first and see how it feels. I recently did a track day at Catalunya and the ZX10 came alive like it never has on the road and I loved it. A Sports Tourer like the 14 can never hope to be a 10 and so most people would say stick with the 10 (which I may do) but by the time I got back from the Catalunya trip, having done over 3,000 miles, my back, wrists, knees etc. were shot. I've been back over 2 weeks now and I still haven't got full feeling back yet in the thumb and first two fingers of my left hand (they went numb from the daily vibration dished out by the 10). Both me and my mate (who was on an 04 Fireblade) agreed that we need to find something different to tour on in future, but preferably something that can still scratch when you get to the twisties. I'm keen on the K1300S as there was a guy a Catalunya who was flying on one and overtaking a good number of people. So I'm wondering how the 14 would have done in the same situation and whether it can be improved.

 

[ninjamaster6-10]

Check out zx14ninjaforum.com.There's a guy there who lighten the crap out of his!!!

 

[9R to 10R]

This vid shows the track capability of the zx14. Get ahold of Advanced Kawasaki they built this 14. They can give you insight to whats done to it. Sucks they removed the audio

 

[Vince10R]

This vid shows the track capability of the zx14. Get ahold of Advanced Kawasaki they built this 14. They can give you insight to whats done to it. Sucks they removed the audio
YouTube - Advanced Kawasaki Nitrous ZX14

That bike looks way shorter wb than factory, maybe it has a 10 arm on it??? dont know for sure if the arms are different length but that rear tire looks way forward. and using the shot on the straight im sure helps the power a bit. that solves two of the three problems i mentioned in post 2 now you just need to loose 50-100 pounds and it may be feasible to run with an average rider on a 10.

 

[Wooki]

That bike looks way shorter wb than factory, maybe it has a 10 arm on it??? dont know for sure if the arms are different length but that rear tire looks way forward. and using the shot on the straight im sure helps the power a bit. that solves two of the three problems i mentioned in post 2 now you just need to loose 50-100 pounds and it may be feasible to run with an average rider on a 10.

This is stock. I don't see how you could shorten it much

 

[Vince10R]

This is stock. I don't see how you could shorten it much

I guess it is stock length I looked at some factory pics and they looked longer than that. :dontknow:

 

[tohkoh]

Well I wanna say something about how light Garth285 can get those bigger bikes... but then I'd just be stirring

http://www.zx-10r.net/forum/showthread.php?t=79908

 

[fbmbks]

I guess it is stock length I looked at some factory pics and they looked longer than that. :dontknow:

ur use to lookin at stretched bikes lol they look better that way

 

[06blackpearl]

how much $$ you got?? If you can afford it it can be done.. A guy had one at the NJMP a few months ago and kept up with all the other bikes w/out any pronlems..

I rode my mans 14 it felt wierd at first but after a few more rides i liked it seems to build up power slow but yet gets triple digits damn fast... were the is like a rocket from takeoff till you run out of rode.

 

[missinlinc]

The 14 dips into corners incredibly well! Much better than a Busa. Get a test ride on one, you might like it!

 

[Vince10R]

ur use to lookin at stretched bikes lol they look better that way

yeah just looks like an awful lot of plastic hanging off the back. :lol:

 

[fbmbks]

yeah just looks like an awful lot of plastic hanging off the back. :lol:

hence y I got an arm haha, if I wanted to run corners id get an apprillia 250 and put a 450 motor in it and run everybike through the corners

 

[bjay51d]

how much $$ you got?? If you can afford it it can be done.. A guy had one at the NJMP a few months ago and kept up with all the other bikes w/out any pronlems..

I rode my mans 14 it felt wierd at first but after a few more rides i liked it seems to build up power slow but yet gets triple digits damn fast... were the is like a rocket from takeoff till you run out of rode.

was that in july?There was a black zx14 doing his thing in white group.

 

[jake318]

You could use the SICOM ceramic brakes . More stopping power and they work better as they get hotter http://www.sicom-brakes.com but Aagin they are costly i just bought a set for my racing Buell . Ill tell you the results come summer . I also own a ZX14 . I am racing the Buell because I too like pojects they say cant be done but it costs Cubic dollars lol

 

[jake318]

Esta skip the K1300 for racing ... Shaft drive and racing dont mix . ive seen guys put in fast laps but that same guy could have went considerably faster with a chain drive .

 

[beenthere]

You can improve the 14s' handling ofcourse. But it will never have the "nimbleness" of a 10. Wheelbase, weight, center of gravity and geometry will always favor a 10. Depends on what you want; a Super Sport that carves or a Repli-Racer that you have slightly modded for a bit more comfort. Riding ability will play a big part in who you will keep up with or pass, so individual mileage may vary.

 

[NC_2_VA]

Well, I don't think I can get my 14 to handle like a 10, but I do want to get the most out of it for what I can do on it. I already have race tech springs for my weight and gold valves seatting in the closet now. The plan is to pull off the springs and shock this winter and send then to race tech. I'm going to have the forks rebuilt with the new parts and the correct spring, and revalve for the back. I plan on doing my first track day on it in the spring.