Anyone disappointed with the power of their Gen 5? Don't give up on it!

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greengriff

Discussion Starter · Mar 8, 2017

I've got a 2016 ZX10R. I bought it as a change to the BMWs I've been riding for the last 5 years. I've met a few people at track days last year with the new model. All of them praised the handling but slammed the bike as gutless with all the power focussed at the top end. Magazine reviews said pretty much the same thing. This is not really fair. Because of the Euro4 restrictions the standard 10R is fighting with one hand tied behind its back.

When this engine is unrestricted to perform as the original engineers intended it is an absolute beast. If you are disappointed with our bike please don't sell it! After a proper remap and a cat delete it will blow you away. For less than £500 you will transform the bike and be very very happy. By a 'proper remap' I mean one that is able to access the ignition tables and return them to the original engineers' specs. The ignition is heavily retarded in places so using a system that alters the fuelling but not the ignition will result in a very smooth running but still not very powerful bike.

I would say definitely don't bother with other mods before you have a remap and cat delete.

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KRTone

· #2 · Mar 8, 2017

I think this is general knowledge of the ZX10R since 2011. I don't even own the bike and I know as much to get a decat exhaust & flash before complaining about lack of power. Thanks for the post tho. Those that don't know should find it useful before purchase or giving up.

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th3r3ds0x

· #3 · Mar 8, 2017

As someone that is 100% street I actually like these aspects of my Gen 5. It's tame on the street unless I choose to let the beast out of the cage. I imagine if I were a track rider I'd feel a lot different.

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greengriff

Discussion Starter · #4 · Mar 8, 2017

th3r3ds0x said:
As someone that is 100% street I actually like these aspects of my Gen 5. It's tame on the street unless I choose to let the beast out of the cage. I imagine if I were a track rider I'd feel a lot different.

I actually think the opposite, which just goes to show how subjective it all is: on the track I'm usually at full throttle or no throttle and the bike is revving hard, so the lack of midrange isn't so apparent - except out of very slow corners. On the road I'm rolling on an off the throttle depending on the situation and using lower revs. The remap actually saves the 10R as a road bike for for. It was hopeless before, especially compared to my old K1 Gixxer 1000 with it's instand power from tickover that made overtaking a piece of cake in any gear.

Now I've just got to sort the wooden brakes and the Gen 5 will be my favourite bike ever!

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KRTone

· #5 · Mar 8, 2017

How would you compare the power to your Beemer?

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tdh

· #6 · Mar 8, 2017

195 at the wheel isn't too shabby. Enough for me.

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scout

· #7 · Mar 9, 2017

If coming off a Harley the inline 4 takes a bit of time to figure out.

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greengriff

Discussion Starter · #8 · Mar 10, 2017

KRTone said:
How would you compare the power to your Beemer?

Before the remap it was considerably worse - much less midrange and low end performance especially. After the remap it is faster than my old HP4 (I have no trouble passing S1ks on trackdays down the straights). I would say that the power is slightly further up the rev range for a given bhp, but that's just my seat of the pants estimate. My lap times are quicker though, but I'd imagine a lot of that is down to the quality of the suspension - feel and feedback is superior to the semi active system on the BMW and so I have more confidence, especially in the front end. I actually find the traction control on the ZX10 to be a little unpredictable compared to the BMW system, which is surprising given that it's a more sophisticated system. Of course it might just be that I'm pushing harder because of my confidence in the front end.

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