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I know there are hundreds of threads devoted to the horribly squishy brakes of the '07 ZX10, but I've got a question I haven't seen answered. I ordered my Nissin calipers quite a while back and am finally getting around to changing them out. I just noticed that my original OEM setup has one line running from the level to the right caliper, then a line running from one caliper to the other. The set of Nissin's I bought (07/08 ZX6 with braided lines) are setup to run a line directly from each caliper to the brake lever... at least from what I can tell.

What is the proper setup? Is either method wrong? Obviously the screws that allow brake fluid the pass through the lever and calipers will have to be changed out.
 

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Well, since you're attempting to improve the feel of the system, individual lines running from the MC to each caliper is the way to do this. This creates individual activation of the calipers and is the preferred way to do it for performance reasons.

Running the calipers in series with each other (like the stock configuration) is fine, but the feel is diminished as one caliper has to start activating before the pressure can increase to the point of activating the other caliper. The reason it is done the way it is from the factory is for packaging reasons with the large rubber lines. Running two of those down from the MC would be difficult.

The newer bikes use a splitter block under the triple tree in an attempt to accomplish both goals, but it is still better to run individual lines from the MC to each caliper.
 

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Thanks for the reply! Although a bit late as I got anxious and figured I'd go with the way the Nissin's were already setup, and, as you mentioned, the preferred method. I just finished and took her for a test ride. I can definitely tell a difference. I believe I've accomplished the 1-finger breaking setup, but it's not exactly as I had expected. Though I think that's probably a good thing.

I haven't tested at any real speeds, just neighborhood limits. I have another question though. When it comes to "1-finger breaking", does it insinuate that the brakes are now scary touchy-feely? Or should it still require a decent amount of force to stop the bike? I was under the impression that I'm likely to skid and possibly go down if I'm not EXTREMELY careful with the new setup. But from what I can tell, that's (gladly) not the case. It still requires that I squeeze quite a bit with 1 finger, but it can be done.

It's a significant improvement over the stock calipers and I'm quite happy thus far!
 

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Thanks for the reply! Although a bit late as I got anxious and figured I'd go with the way the Nissin's were already setup, and, as you mentioned, the preferred method. I just finished and took her for a test ride. I can definitely tell a difference. I believe I've accomplished the 1-finger breaking setup, but it's not exactly as I had expected. Though I think that's probably a good thing.

I haven't tested at any real speeds, just neighborhood limits. I have another question though. When it comes to "1-finger breaking", does it insinuate that the brakes are now scary touchy-feely? Or should it still require a decent amount of force to stop the bike? I was under the impression that I'm likely to skid and possibly go down if I'm not EXTREMELY careful with the new setup. But from what I can tell, that's (gladly) not the case. It still requires that I squeeze quite a bit with 1 finger, but it can be done.

It's a significant improvement over the stock calipers and I'm quite happy thus far!
OK, I've got to get this out of the way first...

*Breaking = disassembly of an item by destructive forces. "I'm in the process of breaking your shit homie!"

*Braking = The action of slowing a vehicle using the brakes. "I need better braking on this Gen 2"




Now that the grammar lesson is out of the way, the terminology when describing "1-finger braking" is an overly descriptive way of saying that the braking is improved. No brake setup should ever be scary to the point of having to worry about it. And never should you be able to lock up and skid that easily. One person's finger is going to generate more force than another person's finger, so it will vary from person to person. So when one person uses a single finger, another person might use 3. (my fingers are exceptionally strong and girthy. That's good for braking and with the ladies).

If you can generate enough force with one finger to quickly slow the bike, it's still going to require a certain amount of force and lever travel to do so. But I like 2 fingers and sometimes 3 on the lever. Just means I have to generate less force with each finger the more I add. But I'm not going to pull stoppies with one finger even though I refer to the brakes as being 1-finger capable.

It sounds like you got what you set out to do, which is vastly improve the brakes. Different pads and stainless lines will also play into the feeling you get at the lever.
 

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I'm actually a little embarrassed, lol... I'm better than that! I spelled it right as a noun, but apparently when I conjugate a verb, all hell "breaks" loose. :-D

Thanks for the input. And the set I ordered off eBay came with braided lines, so I'm good there. Definitely happy. Looking forward to really trying them out!

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I'm actually a little embarrassed, lol... I'm better than that! I spelled it right as a noun, but apparently when I conjugate a verb, all hell "breaks" loose. :-D

Thanks for the input. And the set I ordered off eBay came with braided lines, so I'm good there. Definitely happy. Looking forward to really trying them out!

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Good recovery!

You're going to love the Nissins once your grab some lever on them. Keep your helmet shield up when you do so your eyeballs don't hit the inside of it. :wink:
 
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