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I have a 2009 zx-10r. It has 2,800 miles on it. This is the story, Tuesday night after bike night I rode around pretty hard with a friend of mine and we stopped at denny's to eat. Just had filled the tank with fresh gas from chevron (93 octane) I let the bike sit in the parking lot for 30 mins. We come back out I'm about to start my bike and I turn on the ignition and press the start button and the entire dash shuts off completely. While making fun of my bike my freind says it sounds like th battery so he helped me push start it. Got it started rode home parked it and woke up the next morning to try and start it and it started right up. Took it to te shop they looked at it and said nothing was wrong just that the terminal cables were a little loose.

Took it out for a ride tonight,again rode it pretty hard. We pull over to take a break and the bike won't start again this time there was a error F1 flashing on the screen with the oil light blinking. Checked the oil and it was fine. We popped the seat and checked the battery terminals and they were very tight. I opened the gas cap to try and see how much gas I had left. I had about 3.50 gallons in the tank. So we pushed started it and it fired up the third time. We rode it for a minute then let it sit while it was on. I turned it off after about 5 mins. I turned the key and tried starting it and it fired right up and the error code was gone and the oil light wasn't flashing anymore. It rode fine for the rest of the night. What should I do? Any tips would be appreciated.
 

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Sounds like a bad battery to me...
 

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Maybe a short in the alternator, I had an old 89 zx7 and it did the same thing , took it to a dealer and it stayed with him for a week. He called me and told me to come pick it up, I asked what was the matter with it and he said it was just a wire shorting out and that it cost me 50 bucks instead of over 400 for a new alternator like he had thought. Thank God for an honest Dealer...
 

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thanks guys. shop has to keep it for a couple days to see if it will do it again.
 

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With the bike on but not running, the oil and FI light will always blink.
 

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with the bike on but not running, go to your odometer on the gauge, then hold reset for at least two seconds and tell me the code numbers it flashes. I will tell you what the manual says the problem is.
 

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I am gonna be out on a ride...

Self-Diagnosis
Service Code Table
Service Code Problems
11 Main throttle sensor malfunction, wiring open or short
12 Inlet air pressure sensor malfunction, wiring open or short
13 Inlet air temperature sensor malfunction, wiring open or short
14 Water temperature sensor malfunction, wiring open or short
15 Atmospheric pressure sensor malfunction, wiring open or short
21 Crankshaft sensor malfunction, wiring open or short
23 Camshaft position sensor malfunction, wiring open or short
24 Speed sensor malfunction, wiring open or short
25 Gear position switch malfunction, wiring open or short
31 Vehicle-down sensor malfunction, wiring open or short
32 Subthrottle sensor malfunction, wiring open or short
33 Oxygen sensor #1 inactivation, wiring open or short (Equipped Models)
34 Exhaust butterfly valve actuator sensor malfunction, wiring open or short
35 Immobilizer amplifier malfunction (Equipped Models)
36 Blank Key detection (Equipped Models)
39 ECU communication error
46 Fuel pump relay malfunction, relay is stuck
51 Stick coil #1 malfunction, wiring open or short
52 Stick coil #2 malfunction, wiring open or short
53 Stick coil #3 malfunction, wiring open or short
54 Stick coil #4 malfunction, wiring open or short
56 Radiator fan relay malfunction, wiring open or short
62 Subthrottle valve actuator malfunction, wiring open or short
63 Exhaust butterfly valve actuator malfunction, wiring open or short
64 Air switching valve malfunction, wiring open or short
67 Oxygen sensor heater #1 and/or #2 malfunction, wiring open or short (Equipped
Models)
83 Oxygen sensor #2 inactivation, wiring open or short (Equipped Models)
Notes:
○The ECU may be involved in these problems. If all the parts and circuits checked out good, be sure
to check the ECU for ground and power supply. If the ground and power supply are checked good,
replace the ECU.
○When no service code is displayed, the electrical parts of the DFI system has no fault, and the
mechanical parts of the DFI system and the engine are suspect.
3-42 FUEL SYSTEM (DFI)
Self-Diagnosis
Backups
○The ECU takes the following measures to prevent engine damage when the DFI, ignition or immobilizer
system parts have troubles.
Service
Codes Parts Output Signal Usable
Range or Criteria Backups by ECU
11 Main Throttle
Sensor
Output Voltage
0.2 ∼ 4.8 V
If the main throttle sensor system fails (the
output voltage is out of the usable range,
wiring short or open), the ECU locks ignition
timing into the ignition timing at closed throttle
position and sets the DFI in the D-J method.
12
Inlet Air
Pressure
Sensor
Inlet Air Pressure
(Absolute)
Pv = 50 ∼ 910 mmHg
If the inlet air pressure sensor system fails
(the signal is out of the usable range, wiring
short or open), the ECU sets the DFI in the
α-N method (1).
13
Inlet Air
Temperature
Sensor
Inlet Air Temperature
Ta = – 30 ∼ + 100°C
If the inlet air temperature sensor system fails
(the signal is out of the usable range, wiring
short or open), the ECU sets Ta at 30°C.
14
Water
Temperature
Sensor
Water Temperature
Tw = – 30 ∼ + 120°C
If the water temperature sensor system fails
(the signal is out of the usable range, wiring
short or open), the ECU sets Tw at 80°C and
the radiator fan operates.
15
Atmospheric
Pressure
Sensor
Atmospheric Pressure
(Absolute)
Pa = 50 ∼ 910 mmHg
If the atmospheric pressure sensor system
fails (the signal is out of the usable range,
wiring short or open), the ECU sets Pa at 760
mmHg (the standard atmospheric pressure).
21 Crankshaft
Sensor
Crankshaft sensor must
send 22 signals to the ECU
at the 1 cranking.
If the crankshaft sensor fails, the engine stops
by itself.
23
Camshaft
Position
Sensor
Camshaft position sensor
must send 1 signal to the
ECU at the 2 crankings.
If the camshaft position sensor system fails
(the signal is missing, wiring short or open),
the ECU continues to ignite cylinders in the
same sequence following the last good signal.
However, it can not be restarted after the
engine was stopped once.
24 Speed
Sensor
Speed sensor must send
30 signals to the ECU at
the 1 rotation of the output
shaft.
If the speed sensor system fails (no signal,
wiring short or open), the speedometer shows
0.
25
Gear
Position
Switch
Output Voltage
0.2 ∼ 4.8 V
If the gear position switch system fails (no
signal, wiring short or open), the ECU set the
top (6th) gear position.
31
Vehicle
-down
Sensor
Output Voltage
0.2 ∼ 4.8 V
If the vehicle-down sensor system has failures
(the output voltage is out of the usable range,
wiring short or open), the ECU shuts off the
fuel pump relay, the fuel injectors (primary and
secondary) and the ignition system.
32 Subthrottle
Sensor
Output Voltage
0.2 ∼ 4.8 V
If the subthrottle sensor system fails (the
output voltage is out of the usable range, wiring
short or open), the ECU drive the subthrottle
valve to the full closed position, and it stops
the current to the subthrottle valve actuator.
FUEL SYSTEM (DFI) 3-43
Self-Diagnosis
Service
Codes Parts Output Signal Usable
Range or Criteria Backups by ECU
33
Oxygen
Sensor #1
(Equipped
Models)
The oxygen sensor #1 is
active and sensor must
send signals (output
voltage) continuously to
the ECU.
If the oxygen sensor #1 is not activated, the
ECU stops the feedback mode of the oxygen
sensor #1 and #2.
34
Exhaust
Butterfly
Valve
Actuator
Sensor
Output Voltage
0.2 ∼ 4.8 V
If the exhaust butterfly valve actuator sensor
system fails (the output voltage is out of the
usable range, wiring short or open), the ECU
drive the exhaust butterfly valve at full open
position near, and it stops the current to the
exhaust butterfly valve actuator.
35
Immobilizer
Amplifier
(Equipped
Models)
– If the immobilizer system fails (no signal, wiring
short or open), the vehicle is no start and run.
36
Master or
User Key
(Equipped
Models)
The user or master key
must use register key.
If the blank key or broken key is used, the
vehicle is no start and run.
39 ECU
The ECU send the data
(for gear position, service
code and key registration)
to the meter unit.

46 Fuel Pump
Relay
When the relay ON
condition, battery monitor
voltage 5 V or more

51 Stick Coil #1*
The stick coil primary
winding must send
signals 32 or more times
continuously to the ECU.
If the stick coil #1 primary winding has failures
(no signal, wiring short or open), the ECU
shuts off the injector #1 to stop fuel to the
cylinder #1, though the engine keeps running.
52 Stick Coil #2*
The stick coil primary
winding must send
signals 32 or more times
continuously to the ECU.
If the stick coil #2 primary winding has failures
(no signal, wiring short or open), the ECU
shuts off the injector #2 to stop fuel to the
cylinder #2, though the engine keeps running.
53 Stick Coil #3*
The stick coil primary
winding must send
signals 32 or more times
continuously to the ECU.
If the stick coil #3 primary winding has failures
(no signal, wiring short or open), the ECU
shuts off the injector #3 to stop fuel to the
cylinder #3, though the engine keeps running.
54 Stick Coil #4*
The stick coil primary
winding must send
signals 32 or more times
continuously to the ECU.
If the stick coil #4 primary winding has failures
(no signal, wiring short or open), the ECU
shuts off the injector #4 to stop fuel to the
cylinder #4, though the engine keeps running.
56 Radiator Fan
Relay
When the relay OFF
condition, the fan relay is
open.

62
Subthrottle
Valve
Actuator
The actuator operates
open and close of the
subthrottle valve by the
pulse signal from the ECU.
If the subthrottle valve actuator fails (the
signal is out to the usable range, wiring short
or open), the ECU stops the current to the
actuator.
3-44 FUEL SYSTEM (DFI)
Self-Diagnosis
Service
Codes Parts Output Signal Usable
Range or Criteria Backups by ECU
63
Exhaust
Butterfly
Valve
Actuator
The actuator operates
open and close of the
exhaust butterfly valve by
the pulse signal from the
ECU.
If the exhaust butterfly valve actuator fails (the
signal is out to the usable range, wiring short
or open), the ECU stops the current to the
actuator.
64 Air Switching
Valve
The air switching valve
controls the flow of the
secondary air by opening
and shutting the solenoid
valve.

67
Oxygen
Sensor
Heater #1
and/or #2
(Equipped
Models)
The oxygen sensor
heater #1 and/or #2 raise
temperature of the sensor
for its earlier activation.
If the oxygen sensor heater #1 and/or #2 fails
(wiring short or open), the ECU stops the
current to the heater, and it stops the feedback
mode of the oxygen sensor #1 and #2 .
83
Oxygen
Sensor #2
(Equipped
Models)
The oxygen sensor #2 is
active and sensor must
send signals (output
voltage) continuously to
the ECU.
If the oxygen sensor #2 is not activated, the
ECU stops feedback mode of the oxygen
sensor #1 and #2.
Note:
(1) α-N Method: the DFI control method from medium to heavy engine load. When the engine load
is light like at idling or low speed, the ECU determines the injection quantity by calculating from the
throttle vacuum (inlet air pressure sensor output voltage) and engine speed (crankshaft sensor output
voltage). This method is called D-J method. As the engine speed increases, and the engine load turns
middle to heavy, the ECU determines the injection quantity by calculating from the throttle opening
(main throttle sensor output voltage) and the engine speed. This method is called α-N method.
*: This depends on the number of stopped cylinders
 

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:+2: for the info. but there is no code that came up the oil light just blinks ( like it's supposed to) and the oil synbol is flashing to.
 

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:+2: for the info. but there is no code that came up the oil light just blinks ( like it's supposed to) and the oil synbol is flashing to.
so when you turn the bike on (but don't start the engine) and the gauge cluster is showing the ODO, you should hold down the reset (try mode too, I don't recall exactly which one) and it will show you all of the historical FI lights it ever got. There is no way for us to clear the memory according to the service manual.
 

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nothing happened. I'm just going to keep the bike til it happens again. then I'll trailer it to the shop. Thanks guys much appreciated
 

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Dude, were there any codes in the memory? Like I said, they do not clear out so if there were ever any codes thrown you can easily look to see them... If not, then you never had a FI light to begin with and you would be wasting your money on towing and the dealer...
 

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Dude, were there any codes in the memory? Like I said, they do not clear out so if there were ever any codes thrown you can easily look to see them... If not, then you never had a FI light to begin with and you would be wasting your money on towing and the dealer...
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I have a 2009 zx10r and I had a FI warning a couple of weeks ago. I followed the directions you gave (odo screen hold reset) and nothing happened. No codes popped up. I also tried holding the "mode" button, and nothing happened. I held them for about a minute. I didn't try with the bike running though. Holding both down, of course lets you set the shift light, which I was able to do.
 
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