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I did a search and found the 05 Suspension set up thread and some other posts, but not a lot of stuff for the 06. Is anyone interested in posting up your suspension settings and your total rider weight as well as any mods to the suspension you might have. This might help some of us out who are trying to get in the ballpark and the same weight as someone else as well as saving us some time or just give a reference to those who leave their suspension settings stock.

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195lbs with gear
Tire type and psi-Pilot Powers 30psi rear, 32psi front
front preload - 2 lines showing
front rebound damping - 9 clicks out
front comp. damping - 7 clicks out
rear preload - 22mm thread showing
rear rebound damping - 1.75 turns out
rear comp. damping - 5.5 turns out
fork tube height - 3mm showing above triple clamp
front sag - 28mm
rear sag - 30mm

Special notes: All stock suspension
 

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when i got my 10r the settings were not stock. the fronts were all on the soft side... pretty much set in the midle. it road nice.
i weigh 155 and i recently set it to stock standards.
i noticed on the highway at 145 it was much more violent and i felt every bump... almost to the point of not wanting to go faster.. i might soften it up a bit
 

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Nobody interested? I've been fiddling with mine and right now I'm here.

195lbs with gear
Tire type and psi-Stock 30psi rear, 32psi front
front preload - 3 lines showing
front rebound damping - 9 clicks out
front comp. damping - 7 clicks out
rear preload - 17mm thread showing
rear rebound damping - 2 turns out
rear comp. damping - 2 turns out
fork tube height - 2mm showing above triple clamp
front sag - 28mm
rear sag - 30mm

Special notes: All stock suspension

Going through sharp turns fully leaned over the front end is still pushing out on me when I'm at the apex and getting on the gas. Much more so than on the R1 that I had before. I've always had help adjusting suspension before, but this is the first time doing it myself. Here in Germany I haven't been to a trackday yet to get any help from the track specialists and I my main riding is canyon style riding here with lots of twisties and I'm trying to get it dialed in to get comfortable with it. I'm doing just 1 change at a time and taking notes but sometimes I don't know if I have any clue what the hell I'm doing.
 

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with stock springs (not sure, I'm assuming they're progessive like most bikes) it's hard to get it set. One note, your rear has a lot more sag than I use on my race bike.
 

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check sport rider's shootout of the 1000s. i think it was april or may. they have recommended settings that you can use as a baseline.

i believe it's on their website.
 

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Sport Rider Suggested Suspension Settings:
FRONT:
Spring Preload.............4 Lines showing
Rebound Damping........8 Clicks out from full stiff
Compressing Damping...8 Clicks out from full stiff
Ride Height.................Set fork tubes flush with triple clamp
REAR:
Spring Preload............17mm of thread showing
Rebound Damping........2.5 Turns out from full stiff
Compressing Damping...2 Turns out from full stiff

Don't need you drifting out anymore:ayyy:
 

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kneedragger_13 said:
Sport Rider Suggested Suspension Settings:
FRONT:
Spring Preload.............4 Lines showing
Rebound Damping........8 Clicks out from full stiff
Compressing Damping...8 Clicks out from full stiff
Ride Height.................Set fork tubes flush with triple clamp
REAR:
Spring Preload............17mm of thread showing
Rebound Damping........2.5 Turns out from full stiff
Compressing Damping...2 Turns out from full stiff

Don't need you drifting out anymore:ayyy:
I run my bike with these settings and it still tucks at the front and pushes wide? The other problem; Going into a turn it feels nice but just before apex the bike is hard to lean over, it gets heavy and the front starts to push and even loose grip. Is the rear tire too wide or have the wrong profile? It feels like the profile of the tire "lifts" the bike at deeper leanangles and therefore gets heavy...
Yes its the OEM qualifier and yes they are going to be replaced by a set of Metz Racetechs and this i problably going to cure the problem. But I would like to know if anybody out there tried to lower the clamps at the front or raised the ride hight at the back? The bike is realy stable...too stable perhaps, I'ts almost like my old CBR1000RR...:wink:
It feels a little "low" at the back?
 

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I would recommend that you run your bike on standard settings for a while. I reset my '05 up as soon as I got it home. Then within a month the bike handled like a bag a #*$T. I then returned the bike to stock settings, minus 1 click front and rear on the rebound and dropped the yokes down 3mm, and.... perfect.

I assume the suspension just needed time to bed in as with most components.

Do not rush in and fiddle with your settings unless you think your bike is about to kill you....
 

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I would recommend that you run your bike on standard settings for a while. I reset my '05 up as soon as I got it home. Then within a month the bike handled like a bag a #*$T. I then returned the bike to stock settings, minus 1 click front and rear on the rebound and dropped the yokes down 3mm, and.... perfect.

I assume the suspension just needed time to bed in as with most components.

Do not rush in and fiddle with your settings unless you think your bike is about to kill you....
Yeah, you got a point...but I think the bike IS about to kill me...:wink:

When you say "a bag a sh-t", what exactly was the problem?
 

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Shawn Van Ninja said:
I've got mine set on the sport rider settings...she felt good for awhile...but now it weird at the apex of turns.

That's exactly my point, weird at the apex...and now I got a real headache when thinking about what to do.
The CBR I had last year was a breeze, wind up the preload back and front, a few more clicks on the rebound, 10mil of oil in the forks and Voila, perfect! The R6 before was the same and the R1 before that was allright too...
The Kwak feels okey sometimes and not so okay all the other times and I have too many inputs to what to do. The ZX10R-04 I've tried a couple of years ago was very nice but the -06 is a differnet kind of animal, it feels like Kawi could have done more to set the standard settings right...
 

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niklasinorr said:
That's exactly my point, weird at the apex...and now I got a real headache when thinking about what to do.
The CBR I had last year was a breeze, wind up the preload back and front, a few more clicks on the rebound, 10mil of oil in the forks and Voila, perfect! The R6 before was the same and the R1 before that was allright too...
The Kwak feels okey sometimes and not so okay all the other times and I have too many inputs to what to do. The ZX10R-04 I've tried a couple of years ago was very nice but the -06 is a differnet kind of animal, it feels like Kawi could have done more to set the standard settings right...
Wonder...if it's too late to trade it on an R1.:confused:
 

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Wonder...if it's too late to trade it on an R1.:confused:
Heck No! I want a beast on two wheels, not a Ural...:badteeth:
I just want the beast to go around corners...but it should'n be too easy, it spoils the fun...:cool:
 

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Yeah, you got a point...but I think the bike IS about to kill me...:wink:

When you say "a bag a sh-t", what exactly was the problem?
The bike felt all over the place. On max lean the rear felt as though it was sliding. Front felt as though it was about to tuck in and generally gave me no confidence with the grip.

On turn in the symptoms ranged from (initially - when suspension was new) bike would run wide on slowish corners, so I would really have to push down on the inside bar to get the bike to turn. Then the bloody thing would turn, but too fast, and this felt as though the bike would almost drop onto its side.

The overall feeling was that I was actually riding on a pair of sponges rather than a pair of new tyres.

All this was in the dry.. No imagine how bad it felt in the wet....

Straight line stability was also crap. The rear felt as though the tire pressure was down by about 10psi and this was ampified on standing start from the lights.

It took me over 1 month to scrub in the orange line around the edge of the tire.. and that is embarrassing to admit too. As soon as the suspension had bedded in and setting put back to almost stock. It was easy to run tyres right up to the edge with a fair bit of confidence.



Mine now handles really well and I am hoping will improve so more with the introduction to a decent pair of new tyres.
 

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Okey! I've lowered the front 5mm and i raised the ride height at the back with a 5mm spacer, 35mm loaded sag at the front and 25mm at the back, the bike goes like a dream, totally transformed! It turn in really fast and with a very positive feel. Stabilityvise it's a little flimsy but not a problem for me. It feels like a -04 ZX10...
This is on the OEM Dunlop Qualifier, next weekend I'll try the bike with new Metz Rennsports...should be interesting...:cool:

Why doesn´t the -06 come like this in the first place?
 

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Are these adjustments from standard or from sport rider settings??
A standard -06 is very stable, too stable, acctually, too much Honda
I went for a chassiesetup to make the -06 feel more like a -04/05 and I think I ended up fine:smile:

Then I change the loaded sag at both ends to make the suspension balance to my weight...and now I have a heck of a job to sort out the damping, but for now I use Sport Riders damping settings and my own preload. And this works fine but I shall finetune at the track next weekend.

The strange thing is that my weight is 194 pounds (88kg) and to make the preload at the front to meet 35mm i had too bottom it out, max preload...Sport Rider recomended 4 lines showing, this means that their rider can´t weight more than 140 pounds or so?:dontknow:
Is the standard spring that soft really?
 

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no the 06 springs aren't soft, in fact they are rated about .925kg progressive which may be a touch light for your weight, is that 194lbs fully suited or not??

I'm much more familar with the 04,5 10's than the 06 but it seems like 25mm of rear rider sag may be too little, what was the static sag ??(bike weight only)

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no the 06 springs aren't soft, in fact they are rated about .925kg progressive which may be a touch light for your weight, is that 194lbs fully suited or not??

I'm much more familar with the 04,5 10's than the 06 but it seems like 25mm of rear rider sag may be too little, what was the static sag ??(bike weight only)

BD
Kawi have soften the -06 both chassie and dampingwise, just like the 636 for -05 and I think the standard setup feels much softer on the -06.
I didn´t check tha static sag and I was not fully suited, I will redo all that on the track next week. I just wanted a better start because I felt the standard chassiesetup was not in the ballpark, now it is and I feel that I can move on to make the spring and damping setup okey. And then I try with DOT race tires and do the whole thing again...

...did I say that I like to work with bikesetup?:badteeth:
 
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