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post #1 of 18 Old 07-14-2007, 10:23 PM Thread Starter
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STT--Sportbike Track Time

Anyone do a track day with them? Good? Bad?

I am thinking of doing my first with them at Autobahn in Joliet Illinois. August 11th and/or 12th. North course.... Whatever that means...

http://www.sportbiketracktime.com/sc...dwest2007.html

NESBA has a date at Blackhawk the first weekend in September. I think I prefer to go thru them, but my cousin is getting married that weekend...

Any tips and other info is greatly appreciated.




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I have been to both and know both Monte Lutz(STT Owner) and Garth Cloyd(NESBA Midwest director) very well. I prefer NESBA a bit as there are for the most part more experienced riders and better all around coaching and a real good family environment. STT is good as well so really you cant go wrong. I just prefer NESBA and their control riders.
Either way you'll have a good time.

There are three track setups at Autobahn. North,South and combined. The north should be a lot of fun and pretty smooth track. I have raced the South a few times and love the latout but it's a bit dicey as there are some major bumps in one of the lefties. Let me know if you have anymore questions.

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Yeah, what he said.
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Thanks for the input JJ.

Booked with STT tonight. August 11th. Hopefully all I'll break is my track cherry.

Renting leathers for the first time. Hope I picked the correct size. If this ends up being an addiction, I'll have to get my own leathers. I'll have to get some boots, since those aren't for rent. Any recommendations on boots? I'd like to keep them in the $150 range. Maybe go as high as $200. Maybe I should post in the wanted to buy section... Any tips on making sure I get the correct size?



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SBTT is a good organization...I have done several track days with them at Barbers with much success.
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My experience with STT is not as positive.

My last experience was with them just a weekend back at Grattan in Michigan.

I am an expert rider and racer; not racing this year just doing laps. Several friends are intermediate class riders. Anyhow........

I counted them allowing 43 bikes out each session during the intermediate group and over 30 during the novice. I guess there was prob a solid 30 during the advanced group with me also.

During the intermediate group before the lunch break there was a solid 2 or more crashes each time out. It was like almost a solid string of bikes tip to tail on the two mile course. And you guys know the intermediate group has a full range of damn near turtles to racer wanna-be's. Mixing them together can be a combination for disaster......and in numbers as high as 43 is just asking for trouble.

I feel the coaching was relatively poor. I know of instances the coaches made comments to intermediate riders for passing too close; yet several times i seen them pass riders within inches. In the end resulting in one of the coach riders actually crashing with another rider before the long high speed straight at Grattan. IMHO the coach riders should not be mixing it up; they should be observing, controling and teaching.

Otherwise the events were organized and the price fair. I just feel the need to fill the pocket book was done at the expense of the riders experience and overall safety.
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Good point at some tracks for sure. I also must say that the advanced group in STT is a joke compared to the advanced group with NESBA. Trust me it is.
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good points
I will fo sho keep that in mind when I get to Advanced
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I think that it has a lot to do with your location here in the south STT is great and have heard from numerous people that have done NESBA events here that they are real unorganized and there were a bunch of crashes bu may be different in your area.

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Well we all know crashes and rider ability from day to day can vary. Just understand the variables that can be controled should be; like number of people on the track, control riders, and abilities properly monitored.
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